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Don’t kill? I thought it was “No Chill”! This is very unsettling.
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# ? May 7, 2021 13:51 |
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lament.cfg posted:Don’t kill? I thought it was “No Chill”! oh yeah. you hosed up, man.
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# ? May 7, 2021 13:56 |
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evil_bunnY posted:ffffffffuck that. Literally no one in any (white) church-like org has ever been morals-motivated. was gonna post this. don't put your kids in church if you're not a believer (or at all for that matter) because religion will gently caress your kid up, esp if you're all wishy washy. they won't know what to believe and will just be confused gently caress church Fart Sandwiches fucked around with this message at 14:06 on May 7, 2021 |
# ? May 7, 2021 13:59 |
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This is our first, so I'm horrified and excited all at once. Haven't told anyone beyond parents, and not planning on a Gender Reveal of Mass Destruction. I'm not gonna dogpile the guy but yeah, church ain't my thing. echinopsis posted:don’t forget tho that the most important thing and also hardest thing to do is that you have to transform into the morally admirable person because you’re their number one role model and all the telling a kid what to do in the world doesn’t mean poo poo because they’ll turn out just like you pretty much. This is good poo poo. My dad was a real piece of garbage when I was growing up, and I see a lot of his problems in myself, so I am just trying to focus hard on being all the things I didn't have.
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# ? May 7, 2021 14:27 |
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Gentle Autist posted:my understanding as someone who was not raised religious is that for a religio it can be difficult to conceive of a morality that is not based off some rulebook with the threat of eternal damnation as a consequence of loving up When I went off to college I dropped the sort of guilt-induced pseudo-beliefs I picked up from my small town high school groupthink, and I'll never forget telling my closest friend from home that I was openly an atheist. At the time, he couldn't conceive that you could have morals or be a good person without religion. It ended up being a good conversation (and he's actually an atheist now, too) but yeah, growing up in that sort of environment can give you a pretty black-and-white idea of how people pick up morality. (also apologies for the fact that my entire post sounds like a frontpage post on r/atheism)
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# ? May 7, 2021 14:46 |
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Fart Sandwiches posted:gently caress church
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# ? May 7, 2021 22:09 |
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shoeberto posted:When I went off to college I dropped the sort of guilt-induced pseudo-beliefs I picked up from my small town high school groupthink, and I'll never forget telling my closest friend from home that I was openly an atheist. At the time, he couldn't conceive that you could have morals or be a good person without religion. It ended up being a good conversation (and he's actually an atheist now, too) but yeah, growing up in that sort of environment can give you a pretty black-and-white idea of how people pick up morality.
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# ? May 7, 2021 22:10 |
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now here's a chuch i can get into
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:07 |
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rotor posted:now here's a chuch i can get into they’d cast you out for being a heretic
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:33 |
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No church means you will absolutely find yourself wondering what people do for community in the modern day, because yospos is great and all but logistically no one here is going to bring their kids over for a playdate.
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# ? May 8, 2021 01:45 |
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we have hella community through play centre and school
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# ? May 8, 2021 02:09 |
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I joined the church at 14 for about a decade and left for a number of reasons but there’s no way my kids won’t pick up my disdain for the church or intellectual problems with the bible etc. afterward i swang hard out atheist and whilst that’s still how i feel i don’t really talk about it at all but when I do my knowledge of the topic destroys all others
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# ? May 8, 2021 02:54 |
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President Beep posted:they’d cast you out for being a heretic i once got kicked out of a church
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# ? May 8, 2021 03:02 |
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echinopsis posted:i once got kicked out of a church same, only my first daycare.
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# ? May 8, 2021 03:05 |
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why would you join at 14 wtf
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# ? May 8, 2021 03:23 |
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Gentle Autist posted:why would you join at 14 wtf no i was like three. wtf?
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Gentle Autist posted:why would you join at 14 wtf a girl of course
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# ? May 8, 2021 04:31 |
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lol, while that's true, it's not just because of her, it was because when she told me stories of people falling over in the spirit and speaking in tongues, I believed it. my parents never taught me about religion. or many things really. certainly not critical thinking. and so after I expressed interest I went and visited a church and went an hour early to talk to the pastor and within that hour he told me about jesus and ended up leading me through the sinners prayer and I became a christian then and there. lol church was a trip, sometimes the sermon would be about how there's unforgivable sin or that jesus blood doesnt cover you for comitting the same sins over and over, and I'd leave scared I was bound for hell, and then you'd have a sermon that would say that everyone was saved and I'd leave feeling good abot it, and then I went to a more bible orientated church, who we're calvinists and I learned about predestination and how if you're the elect you're saved for life, and that most people were created by god and destined not for heaven. real good poo poo
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# ? May 8, 2021 04:36 |
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echinopsis posted:a girl of course she became my wife and mother of my childs
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# ? May 8, 2021 04:36 |
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ugh, loving calvinists messing people up all over the world.
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# ? May 8, 2021 07:58 |
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Gentle Autist posted:why would you join at 14 wtf the gently caress
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# ? May 8, 2021 08:09 |
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That sort of outright Calvinism with the elect is pretty uncommon outside of a few pockets, one of which IIRC you live smack in the middle of
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# ? May 8, 2021 08:11 |
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oldest son just fell out of his bed (he’s fine) so after a mad dash into his room to investigate the loud thump and subsequent crying i’m all
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# ? May 8, 2021 08:13 |
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President Beep posted:ugh, loving calvinists messing people up all over the world. bill watterson thought destroying lives
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# ? May 8, 2021 08:13 |
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President Beep posted:oldest son just fell out of his bed (he’s fine) so after a mad dash into his room to investigate the loud thump i now attempt to sleep in earnest around 2 am thanks to things like "uncontrolled weeping due to unlocatable sippy cup in crib" and "quiet, sustained crying due to nightstand cup running out of water" earlier in the night to say nothing of the nightmares, but that's at least easily fixable with having them comfort my big giant head
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# ? May 8, 2021 08:21 |
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President Beep posted:oldest son just fell out of his bed (he’s fine) so after a mad dash into his room to investigate the loud thump when i was 6 ish I rolled out of the top bunk when staying at a family friends house and fell down into the gap between a dresser and the metal bed. didn't even wake up and my parents were like "wtf" when they came into the room later
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# ? May 8, 2021 09:47 |
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sometimes I make my kids laugh so much they're like dad stop it hurts and my 10yo always wants to do short body scans when he goes to bed now
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# ? May 8, 2021 10:18 |
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:when i was 6 ish I rolled out of the top bunk when staying at a family friends house and fell down into the gap between a dresser and the metal bed. lol
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# ? May 8, 2021 10:30 |
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Fortaleza posted:That sort of outright Calvinism with the elect is pretty uncommon outside of a few pockets, one of which IIRC you live smack in the middle of I've only ever met one outright Calvinist, and she ruled so hard it was difficult to understand. Predeterminism is one hell of a philosophy, this four foot nothing girl had more self esteem than I ever will.
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# ? May 8, 2021 11:01 |
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ok so I really liked her and we talked on the phone lots and she was also the first girl I kissed, but she was in the salvation army and was of the opinion the youth group wasnt great but we had another friend who went to a elim/pentecostal church so I went to that church. and the girl I liked already had a boyf. and then I got a different girlf, and then she was single. and then she left high school after what you called sophomore to go to nursing school, and then high school ended and we got together for a bit. then we broke up, went separate ways for a bit, got back together, bought a house with her nursing money and got married. because we were in the church, we didn't even live together in our own house before we were married! and I stayed a virgin until about 3 weeks before the wedding. lol. we used to do boatloads of 69rs before that tho. and lol when you do rudies with church people, basically you're both horny and you start doing things you believe are wrong, and then one of you finishes, but after that you get the guilts, and so you start to cry and are like "we need to pray for forgiveness", but the other person is still horny and hasn't finished yet. the guilt you get after sinful sex, was still there after we actually got married. it didnt disappear right away. turns out the church'es approach to sex etc is super poo poo lol. for example, taking a condom on a date would be like accepting that sex is a possibility. so you dont and once when discussing the effectivness of abstinance only sex ed, came to the fact part that abstinence only sex ed does actually sucseed at having lower overall rates of sex. yes its way worse overall for many reasons but it does lead to less sex. and he didnt care that it increased pregnancy or stis. those are the wages of the sin of premarital sex, all that matters is reducing sin. Fortaleza posted:That sort of outright Calvinism with the elect is pretty uncommon outside of a few pockets, one of which IIRC you live smack in the middle of the implication that god necesarily creates people to send to hell so that other people will appreciate his grace more? its such an offensive proposal. it does make more sense of most of the bible though. man when I left the church and realised the bible doesn't have to be consistent, was such a relief. no wonder it contradicts itself, it was written over many hundreds of years by relatively uneducated people. like if me, an intelligent but naive person who was born in the 80s, still needed to be taught critical thinking, imagine what the clowns hanging around jesus were like. they were hardly aristotle. when I got kicked out of church : I was 17/18 and it was first year out of high school, and id socialise with my high school friends which included drinking and making out with chicks. now I was in the church band, and when the leadership found out about this, they said, because I was in the band I'll get a pass this time, but if they find out that I've been kissing girls again, I'd be out of there. and it happened, hooked up on satu night, and then at the start of practice at 5pm the pastor came and politely removed me from the church. I was allowed to come back if I visited the pastor each week for 12 weeks, but I gave up on that and went to the biggest pentecostal church in town. the kind of place travelling speakers would preach at on a saturday night. thousand plus congregation echinopsis fucked around with this message at 11:43 on May 8, 2021 |
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Fart Sandwiches posted:gently caress church rotor posted:now here's a chuch i can get into President Beep posted:they’d cast you out for being a heretic lol
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# ? May 8, 2021 12:58 |
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told boy not to get up till the sun showed on his groclock, so from 630 till 730 he laid in bed awake yelling STINKY BUTT over and over. we could hear him easily from our room thanks bud
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# ? May 9, 2021 01:12 |
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Gentle Autist posted:told boy not to get up till the sun showed on his groclock, so from 630 till 730 he laid in bed awake yelling STINKY BUTT over and over. we could hear him easily from our room it's been a full 10 years since i had a decent night's sleep
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# ? May 9, 2021 02:13 |
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oof. i remember the days of trying to convince our first son that there’s no good reason to get up early on the weekends. first—before he could tell time—we got him a clock that would light up at the appropriate hour, but then he’d just come in super early to ask us how much longer until that’d happen. we had this great six months or so between the time he began enjoying time to himself in the mornings and the birth of our second son.
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# ? May 9, 2021 02:15 |
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echinopsis posted:idk if you're talking about me, but here in chrsitchurch nah its not common at all. I meant beep, there’s a pocket of Dutch reformed influence in his little corner of Michigan.
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# ? May 9, 2021 02:31 |
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ugh. yeah.
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# ? May 9, 2021 02:33 |
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TimWinter posted:No church means you will absolutely find yourself wondering what people do for community in the modern day, because yospos is great and all but logistically no one here is going to bring their kids over for a playdate.
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# ? May 9, 2021 13:46 |
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President Beep posted:oldest son just fell out of his bed (he’s fine) so after a mad dash into his room to investigate the loud thump
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# ? May 9, 2021 14:04 |
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TimWinter posted:No church means you will absolutely find yourself wondering what people do for community in the modern day, because yospos is great and all but logistically no one here is going to bring their kids over for a playdate. society has done a largely poor job of replacing church community as it progresses past church. also church also encouraged you to overall socialise with people you don’t kinda like whereas modern communities are like, if you belonged to a push lawn mower club they’d encourage you to post pictures of people using a ride on mower to lameassriders.com
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