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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



https://i.imgur.com/FAVftTh.mp4

lol

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Sab Sabbington
Sep 18, 2016

In my restless dreams I see that town...

Flagstaff, Arizona

Zaphod42 posted:

What.

Are you seriously, seriously arguing that Hostel is less gorey than Invincible? :psyduck:

No dude I'm not misremembering anything. Please don't insult me like that by assuming I must be biased because of a 'moral panic' in the public. No, this is my legitimate opinion, I've seen those films recently, and I've seen Invincible recently. And you're crazy.

Yes, Saw 2 isn't very gorey compared to lots of other gore horror. But Invincible has even less! That's the point.

Hey, that wasn't meant to be an insult, more that a lot of people misremember those films as gorier than they were due to the conversation around them.

That being said: lmao ok

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Zaphod42 posted:

(, and the good Clone Wars)


Both Clone Wars were good.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


MonsterEnvy posted:

Both Clone Wars were good.

Agreed. Genndy's has a ton more style, and is pretty short so it's easier to digest, but the Disney one is pretty great once it hits it's stride, and kinda has this nice balance between like "hijinks of the week" and an overarching plot.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Sab Sabbington posted:

Hey, that wasn't meant to be an insult, more that a lot of people misremember those films as gorier than they were due to the conversation around them.

That being said: lmao ok

There's also the human brain's natural inclination to fill in the gaps and remember gore where there wasn't any because the crunchy audio made you think some sick poo poo was happening.

Kulkasha
Jan 15, 2010

But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Likchenpa.

Ccs posted:

Haha I totally forgot about that. It was a cool touch.

I'm looking for other good American comics to read and I really want to check out Ms. Marvel, but the artist changes every 3 issues or so. Insane. You get used to the way one artist draws a character's face and composes a scene and then they snatch it away from you and suddenly its like new actors and a new director of photography took over. Why American comics, why...

You might want to check out the Ultimate line of Marvel that came out in the '00s, it was Marvel's attempt to reboot a separate continuity with more focused creator-control. Although only Ultimate Spider-Man really lived up to that (most of the run was written by Bendis and illustrated by Bagley, and is well over 100 issues iirc), and the earlier bits of Ultimate X-Men and esp. Ultimate Fantastic Four were pretty good. You could also read the Ultimates (Avengers) if you are OK with Millar. Unfortunately as Bendis got more and more popular, Marvel decided to start murdering the line and most of it was discarded except for Sam Jackson Nick Fury and Miles Morales.
Aside from that all that comes to mind are various British comics, alt comics like Preacher, etc.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I don't actually like Bagley that much, he draws bad faces. Immonen takes the book over at like, issue 110 and then Pichelli when it switches to Miles. Hitch drew Ultimates and it's predictably excellent, there's a really cool like five page splash in vol 2. As for UFF, well, Greg Land drew most of it...

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump
If you're looking for long contained comic runs that have pretty consistent art/direction and they don't necessarily need to be superheroes then Y: The Last Man and Fables are options. There are plenty of others but I just saw those yesterday when scrolling comixology and remembered enjoying them, so they're fresh on my mind. I'd probably need to dig out my old external drive to give many other recommendations but there's always BSS for that too

E: I liked the ultimate line when it came out but maaaaan I find that to be a hard sell these days knowing how it evolved

Good Citizen fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 7, 2021

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Good Citizen posted:

If you're looking for long contained comic runs that have pretty consistent art/direction and they don't necessarily need to be superheroes then Y: The Last Man and Fables are options. There are plenty of others but I just saw those yesterday when scrolling comixology and remembered enjoying them, so they're fresh on my mind. I'd probably need to dig out my old external drive to give many other recommendations but there's always BSS for that too

I don't have a problem with political narratives, but for those of you who get frustrated with Libertarians I'd recommend not reading Fables.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

zoux posted:

It reminds me of the old 90s ultra violent animes that we had to trade on tapes like Ninja Scrolls or Vampire Hunter D. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it was an intentional parallel, given the Akira homage in episode 7. Stuff like that is old hat now but when I was a lad, we'd never seen anything that graphic. It was way more graphic than even actual Hollywood gore movies.

Zaphod42 posted:

Uh, what hollywood gore movies are you watching? This sounds really out of touch. Invincible is violent, but it was infinitely less graphic than Saw 2, much less the later Saw films or Hostel or half of modern Hollywood horror films.

I guess maybe you mean Ninja Scroll, Vampire Hunter D is a bit violent but not that graphic... and I guess you meant Hollywood horror films back then?
But even then, there was plenty of gory horror films even back in the 80s and poo poo, Cannibal Holocaust and all that. Again, Invincible is straight up nothing like that.

Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter D were on the milder side of the 90s goreporn animes that were getting passed around between fans back in the day compared to stuff like Genocyber, Violence Jack and Urotsukidoji Legend of the Overfiend. Of course those movies also had a big influence on western comics and gore movies so it's kinda pointless to argue whether 90s/00s western films were gorier than 90s/00s anime films because they were both feeding off each other. Eli Roth got his start as an animator and he's a huge fan of Japanese horror cinema (he gave Takashi Miike a cameo in Hostel 2) so it's almost certain that he would have seen a whole bunch of those earlier ultra violent Japanese animes.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Open Source Idiom posted:

I don't have a problem with political narratives, but for those of you who get frustrated with Libertarians I'd recommend not reading Fables.

Fables isn’t that objectionable in my opinion outside of the four or so pages (like 2/3 of the way through the series) where the author’s favorite character rants about how much he loves Israel

LegoMan
Mar 17, 2002

ting ting ting

College Slice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PmylfzD8NE

Saitama v Boros

The animation was so good and even drew from portions of the first episode kind of equating Saitama's drive with Boros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoaCxj-KP-g&t=1236s

LegoMan fucked around with this message at 05:49 on May 7, 2021

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

zoux posted:

like when that guy gets his torso pulled out of his mech

Yeah, that's one of those scenes I don't think I'll ever forget.

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001
Speaking of good animation I quite enjoy the style going on in this one. Combat is super fluid and impactful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLo1MOy_6hU

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

GlassEye-Boy posted:

Speaking of good animation I quite enjoy the style going on in this one. Combat is super fluid and impactful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLo1MOy_6hU

Uh yeah this kinda owns. Apparently its a Chinese Anime? And new? I've never heard of it.

Wow its so kinematic. The characters and the camera are just moving all over the place, really good stuff.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

GlassEye-Boy posted:

Speaking of good animation I quite enjoy the style going on in this one. Combat is super fluid and impactful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLo1MOy_6hU

RIP Howard

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

real shame that the season's over. in this world full of binge watching, it was somewhat refreshing to watch something once a week like in the olden days. had a nice routine going every friday night :smith:

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Invincible and Falcon/Winter Soldier ended around same time. Despite all the upcoming Marvel content I am currently bereft of superheroes.

I also just finished my rewatch of Legend of Korra. Maybe I'll go back and watch the original Avatar.

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

Ccs posted:

Invincible and Falcon/Winter Soldier ended around same time. Despite all the upcoming Marvel content I am currently bereft of superheroes.

I also just finished my rewatch of Legend of Korra. Maybe I'll go back and watch the original Avatar.

Jupiter's Legacy just came out on Netflix. It's a bit derivative of other superhero deconstructions of the era but it's good. Couldn't burn any slower though.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Looking forward to the next season and its eight hours of somber therapy action

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006

I really am surprised that this show exploded like it did. It wasn't a super popular comic when it came out. I think some of the changes they made, like having the guardians get offed in the first episode and the surprising violence, may have drawn people in quickly. Having that ridiculously good voice actors probably sealed the deal,.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Monaghan posted:

I really am surprised that this show exploded like it did. It wasn't a super popular comic when it came out. I think some of the changes they made, like having the guardians get offed in the first episode and the surprising violence, may have drawn people in quickly. Having that ridiculously good voice actors probably sealed the deal,.

That definitely helped hook me in. Towards the end of the pilot I was flagging a lot and might not have continued if not for the "oh holy poo poo" ending.

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀

GlassEye-Boy posted:

Speaking of good animation I quite enjoy the style going on in this one. Combat is super fluid and impactful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLo1MOy_6hU

wth, why have I never seen or heard of this

This fight of a man fighting a bird is legit super cool

Here's the continuation;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E475vIKYvD4

Collapsing Farts fucked around with this message at 18:28 on May 7, 2021

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

Collapsing Farts posted:

wth, why have I never seen or heard of this

This fight of a man fighting a bird is legit super cool

Here's the continuation;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E475vIKYvD4



Currently 3 episodes available on Youtube. I read that it's pretty much a passion project of a small 6 person team, so releases are fairly infrequent.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

the colors and movements look like Don Bluth got into anime (in a good way)

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





TRP Post of the Month October 2021
Just binged through this and I gotta say watching Dragon ball as kid and adult prepared me for the twist quite well.

Dragon ball did not prepare me for how many skulls I was about to see though :eyepop:


Real fun overall, can't wait to see season 2 and 3.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Yeah, that's one of those scenes I don't think I'll ever forget.

Same here, to the point where when I saw your post with that snippet and no context I knew exactly what it was.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
Mostly kind of a shame they lost the part where Mark is largely undamaged until his fight with Omniman. He kinda looks like a complete chump in this season.

Getting beaten bloody to the extent he was by cyber zombies of all things is a pretty bad look.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Captain Oblivious posted:

Mostly kind of a shame they lost the part where Mark is largely undamaged until his fight with Omniman. He kinda looks like a complete chump in this season.

Getting beaten bloody to the extent he was by cyber zombies of all things is a pretty bad look.

Omni-Man explicitly states that Mark needs to push to develop his powers. The faster he flies, the faster he can fly; the more he lifts, the more he can lift. It surprises you that he needs to get hit harder to become tougher?

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Jedit posted:

Omni-Man explicitly states that Mark needs to push to develop his powers. The faster he flies, the faster he can fly; the more he lifts, the more he can lift. It surprises you that he needs to get hit harder to become tougher?

Yes? Because I don’t super care about the Watsonian rationalization, just the narrative result. In the comics he can make a plausible claim to the name Invincible at first and it makes the fight with Omni-Man all the more impactful.

Here, him calling himself Invincible is farcical. It’s like a self deprecating joke.

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

After watching the first episode of Jupiter's Legacy I appreciate Invincible a lot more. How not to Invincible, crappy Super Santa Cosplay with a Code, code, code, code....

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Ninurta posted:

After watching the first episode of Jupiter's Legacy I appreciate Invincible a lot more. How not to Invincible, crappy Super Santa Cosplay with a Code, code, code, code....

It picks up when they get more into the backstory, but man are the super effects bad. It's like Sky High

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Captain Oblivious posted:

Mostly kind of a shame they lost the part where Mark is largely undamaged until his fight with Omniman. He kinda looks like a complete chump in this season.

Getting beaten bloody to the extent he was by cyber zombies of all things is a pretty bad look.

Yeah, I think in the comics the fight has more of an impact because its Mark's first big loss, and he loses *hard*. In the show its more of just a series of failures, and he was already considering quitting because of Amber.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA

Captain Oblivious posted:

Yes? Because I don’t super care about the Watsonian rationalization, just the narrative result. In the comics he can make a plausible claim to the name Invincible at first and it makes the fight with Omni-Man all the more impactful.

Here, him calling himself Invincible is farcical. It’s like a self deprecating joke.

Well it is treated more like a inside joke in the show thankfully . I thought you were quite vincible for example.

It would've been nice if his dad had been his first real loss but then they'd have to rearrange the entire season.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Captain Oblivious posted:

Yes? Because I don’t super care about the Watsonian rationalization, just the narrative result. In the comics he can make a plausible claim to the name Invincible at first and it makes the fight with Omni-Man all the more impactful.

Here, him calling himself Invincible is farcical. It’s like a self deprecating joke.

Well, that's the Post/Username Combo Award won for the week.

Mark's choice of alias is a reference to how all teenagers believe they're invincible and will live forever.

Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Azhais posted:

It picks up when they get more into the backstory, but man are the super effects bad. It's like Sky High

Yeah, I'm about half way through and I totally agree. It's a very odd show, half super hero half Lovecraft style horror it seems, still waiting to see how the two halves fit together but it's unusual for sure. Terrible super power effects, as you say, but not from lack of budget.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
Well! That was interesting. Well done. Glad I stuck with it after a somewhat boring first 3/4 of the first episode.

Is it just me, or did the animation get better as the season went on? Maybe I just got used to it.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Boy my opinion of Atom Eve sure changed over the show. At first I thought she was pink Starfire. But then oh wait no she's more like Raven and Starfire combined- wait still no, she's like a pink Green Lanter- Okay still no, a combination of Green Lantern and Firestorm.

Wonder how they're going to take things in the future. Are they going to use Omni-Man's blood to try and make their own clone like Superboy or are they gonna start putting it in people and make some pseudo Viltrumitians.

It's also very refreshing to have a superhero setting that seems actively hostile to having a status quo forever after 32 Marvel movies that're having massive changes in the world at about 1/40 the speed they happen in the real world despite the aliens and magic and etc. It's probably just that I haven't been reading/watching the right stuff beyond this but it was cool how many plates this show's spinning between the Mars hivemind, the Flaxens, that revived green mummy thing, stuff like that.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Jedit posted:

Well, that's the Post/Username Combo Award won for the week.

Mark's choice of alias is a reference to how all teenagers believe they're invincible and will live forever.

You worded this much nicer than what I was writing so thank you. That's exactly it.

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Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
I finished the last 3 episodes last night before bed and this show is absolutely amazing. Just a really incredible and groundbreaking show that I love to love.

I’m still collecting my thoughts but what Nolan put Mark through, the sheer indescribable horror and carnage of the subway specially... maybe one of the most hosed things I’ve literally ever seen. There’s lots of different kinds of evil at work in this show, but the way Nolan’s humanity sort of sloughs off of him during the fight as he became enraged at Mark’s weakness, all of it was just unbelievable. I’ve watched an absolute metric fuckload of prestige drama and superhero shlock in the last year and I don’t ever remember my jaw just hanging open like that for 5 minute straight before, I really could not believe what I was seeing.

I spent the entire season thinking Cecil was Billy Bob Thornton, lmao

I never read the comics, but it seems like the show is not following along and is sort of doing its own thing?

JJ and Sandra Oh are phenomenal in here! The cast is out of this world! I even grew to love the Smurf twins by the end.

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