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Pylons posted:Absolutely losing my poo poo sin contract
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Tonfa posted:That Jiro was Taishi Takizawa. Tall guy who has forever slummed it up in 2AW, formerly known as TAKA Michinoku's K-DOJO. i choose to believe the WWE hired him because they think its the same Jiro
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May 8, 2021 20:27
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Blaise330 posted:fun fact, Aleister Black's first main roster match was on Main Event like a year before he got called up. Think he squashed Bo Dallas or something. iirc it was curt hawkins, and they did it to pop the locals b/c it was during their european tour. i think maybe the same week where aj beat jinder? and/or the week where pete dunne was on raw to murder enzo? idk.
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May 8, 2021 21:14
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Aleister Black beat Curt Hawkins on the Main Event taped at the venue (O2 Arena in London) for the May 8, 2017 episode of Raw. AJ Styles beat Jinder Mahal on the November 7, 2017 Smackdown taped at the Manchester Arena. Pete Dunne beat Enzo the night before in the same building. So same year, all on UK tours, but none on the same night.
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Wasn’t Sin Cara Triple H’s first big project? Haha
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CarlCX posted:the conversation made me look up 205 Live on cagematch to see who was even on it recently and apparently at various points and especially in the early days of the pandemic they decided they were just too busy to bother with the cruiserweights so they played taped matches instead This is a legitimate question... Considering the network got a Billion dollars on Peacock, I am surprised there is absolutely no interest in a broadcast/cable network doing a "from the vault" type show with classic WWE content. Main Event is syndicated internationally and on Hulu in the US. I don't think 205 Live airs anywhere, so it's understandable why they'd just replay old matches. But is there seriously more interest in newer content, even if it is matches that mean nothing and offer nothing special to the viewers? Maybe I'm wrong. Because stuff like ESPN Classic got phased out for on demand services. It's not like they play old superbowls. Or maybe they do and I just don't know.
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Astro7x posted:This is a legitimate question... They don't care about the old content, they wanted an infusion of new subscribers and live content. Just look at how little care was put into getting the existing archive on Peacock. The old stuff wasn't really watched on the Network, let alone actual TV.
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May 8, 2021 22:13
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they put the 1992 Rumble up on YouTube the week of this year's Rumble and it like almost definitely had more viewers than the current product so it probably just depends on the event I don't think you'd get too many viewers for a cable show devoted to old matches but a decently curated one would probably draw more eyes than whatever they stick on 205 Live
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May 8, 2021 22:24
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Astro7x posted:Considering the network got a Billion dollars on Peacock, I am surprised there is absolutely no interest in a broadcast/cable network doing a "from the vault" type show with classic WWE content. Main Event is syndicated internationally and on Hulu in the US. I don't think 205 Live airs anywhere, so it's understandable why they'd just replay old matches. But is there seriously more interest in newer content, even if it is matches that mean nothing and offer nothing special to the viewers? They do syndicate stuff like "WWE Vintage" internationally. It's actually kinda insane how much stuff they produce outside of the american market - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_television_programming
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Cesaro can't just beat Rollins clean to prepare him for this title loss? Who convinced Vince that Reginald needs to be in a women's segment on both brands every week? I want to fight them.
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Sees "Baron Corbin pins Shinsuke Nakamura in an 8 man tag" Ah, another great use of Shinsuke's talent and time I see
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https://twitter.com/FightfulWrestle/status/1391121620274610178?s=20 They’ve adapted quickly
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I guess the tears in your knee tendons grow.
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May 8, 2021 23:32
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Quote on first parse gave me a laugh picturing them telling Ricochet he should have grown six inches at the PC Also lol ya the cult can never fail it can only be failed~
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the performance center is probably great if you are already a really good wrestler and are now surrounded by all the really good wrestlers the WWE collected and have held hostage in NXT for years now the problem is if you are not already a really good wrestler and they make you do goofy crossfit poo poo until your legs fall off and give you 3 minute matches
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May 8, 2021 23:38
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Just look at the success stories they have, like Shinsuke Nakamura, Finn Balor, Aleister Black, Asuka, Kairi Sane, Apollo Crews, Bobby Roode, Ember Moon, Ivar & Erik, Keith Lee, Kevin Owens, Killian Dain, Oney Lorcan, Nikki Cross, Ricochet, Sami Zayn and Ruby Riott - all of whom were trained and only trained at the WWE Performance Center, and absolutely nowhere else ever.
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May 8, 2021 23:43
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This kinda reminds me of those dipshits at the beginning of the pandemic that kept saying things like "it's your own fault if you don't learn a new skill during this pandemic now that we have plenty of free time".
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May 8, 2021 23:47
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SonicRulez posted:Cesaro can't just beat Rollins clean to prepare him for this title loss?
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wow just sleeping on PC success stories such as Braun Strowman, Omos, and........ Mace maybe??
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Blaise330 posted:wow just sleeping on PC success stories such as Braun Strowman, Omos, and........ Mace maybe?? the one i see brought up is Bianca Belair which I want to agree with but I also don't watch WWE but i liked her at mania!
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Pylons posted:This kinda reminds me of those dipshits at the beginning of the pandemic that kept saying things like "it's your own fault if you don't learn a new skill during this pandemic now that we have plenty of free time". Yeah, I learned how to work remotely. bebaloorpabopalo posted:the one i see brought up is Bianca Belair which I want to agree with but I also don't watch WWE but i liked her at mania! I haven't watched WWE since Mania 36 but as I recall, Bianca Belair is good. Honestly, I'd say it's in spite of the WWEPC.
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I feel like for whatever reason, WWEPC/developmental has a much better track record with women than man. Some of that might just be the numbers game, if you will. Main roster women who don't appear to have wrestled prior to WWE: Alexa Bliss, Bianca Belair, Carmella, Charlotte Flair, Dana Brooke, Eva Marie, Lana, Liv Morgan, Mandy Rose, Naomi, Nia Jax, Sonya Deville Main roster men who don't appear to have wrestled prior to WWE: Angelo Dawkins, Braun Strowman, Bray Wyatt, Chad Gable, Commander Azeez, Dolph Ziggler, Montez Ford, Omos, Riddick Moss, Rinku Singh, Roman Reigns, Titus O'Neill It's twelve and twelve unless I'm missing someone, but a bigger proportional group among the women. There are obviously hits and misses in both camps, and most of the biggest hits (Charlotte, Roman, Dolph) predate the actual performance center.
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Edge & Christian posted:I feel like for whatever reason, WWEPC/developmental has a much better track record with women than man. Some of that might just be the numbers game, if you will. Charlotte trained some at the Highspots school under George South before going to FCW. Bray first came along in the era when they wanted second generation prospects with no previous experience to go through Harley Race's school first , didn't he?
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You can make an argument for Velveteen Dream, but most of that was learning how to do basic poo poo really well, and at the right time. Also y'know gently caress him
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MediaPlayerClassic posted:You can make an argument for Velveteen Dream, but most of that was learning how to do basic poo poo really well, and at the right time. And he doesn't seem like he's able to do basic stuff really well because his matches are bad.
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davidbix posted:Gable 100% wrestled pre-WWE: https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=15197&page=4&search=betts I was going to say "turns out that if you are born into a wrestling family or are an elite athlete, you pick up on this stuff better than other people" but then I realized that the only people who go directly into WWE without working indies are either people born into wrestling families, elite athletes, or I guess for some period time women Johnny Ace finds attractive. And a lot of the first two categories end up washing out too.
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Edge & Christian posted:I totally missed the Gable stuff, and I was considering asterisking Bray/Charlotte/Roman/etc. on the same grounds I realize I omitted Dominik Mysterio, that they trained (but to my knowledge did not actually have matches in front of audiences) prior to joining with WWE. It endlessly amuses me that Regal chose to send his son to the NJPW dojo rather than the PC.
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Pylons posted:It endlessly amuses me that Regal chose to send his son to the NJPW dojo rather than the PC. Pretty sure that was Dave Finlay, not Regal. And he was right to. Looking at the improvement and success of other developmental wash-outs like Juice Robinson or Tay Conti, I wonder how Fred Rosser'll go in NJPW.
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Vagabundo posted:Pretty sure that was Dave Finlay, not Regal. And he was right to. No, Regal did it as well. I'm not surprised, Regal talked about his time in NJPW like it was a real bright spot of his career.
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MediaPlayerClassic posted:You can make an argument for Velveteen Dream, but most of that was learning how to do basic poo poo really well, and at the right time. Dream worked on the indies for a few years before NXT picked him up
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El Gallinero Gros posted:No, Regal did it as well. Well, he tried. It was right before the pandemic started so I'm pretty sure nothing ever happened. His son just recently debuted in NXT UK
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May 9, 2021 02:54
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Pretty sure Dream was the only one on his season of Tough Enough that actually had experience before the show. (Not counting Chelsea Green, who was a replacement)
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MassRafTer posted:And he doesn't seem like he's able to do basic stuff really well because his matches are bad. He had a 5 * match!
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JUNGLE BOY posted:https://twitter.com/FightfulWrestle/status/1391121620274610178?s=20 They've learned how to shill for WWE which is the only thing the PC teaches
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JUNGLE BOY posted:Well, he tried. It was right before the pandemic started so I'm pretty sure nothing ever happened. His son just recently debuted in NXT UK Regal’s kid showed up as one of the track suited ringside young boys on a bunch of NJPW shows, he was definitely there for a while.
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Dolph was doing amateur wrestling since age 9. I don’t think it’s fair to call him an OVW guy.
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The thing about the MSK interview is that I'm sure there ARE a ton of awesome learning opportunities at the PC—just look at the coaching staff—but it's likely a much different experience for people who went almost directly to a pushed role on TV. And by the way, Re: the Finlays: Dave Jr. did wrestle before he went to the NJPW dojo, first in Georgia indies and then for an extended stay doing holiday camps in the UK. His brother, Brogan, who's 18, just started working GA indies himself. I believe that Fit trained them both to start off. davidbix fucked around with this message at 20:33 on May 9, 2021 |
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davidbix posted:The thing about the MSK interview is that I'm sure there ARE a ton of awesome learning opportunities at the PC—just look at the coaching staff—but it's likely a much different experience for people who went almost directly to a pushed role on TV. Please tell me he wrestles as Bulk Brogan
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