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Gonzo McFee posted:WRONG UNIFORM How dare a woman and politician wear comfortable clothing and relate to people! The Scandal!
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May 9, 2021 18:39
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she looks just like a normal person in the street wearing normal clothes https://twitter.com/ChrisKPH/status/1391438362142248960?s=19 clearly she should be wearing a shiny blue suit to emphasise she is a woman of the people
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Gonzo McFee posted:WRONG UNIFORM RAYNER'S LEOPARD-PRINT TROUSERS COST US HARTLEPOOL!
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May 9, 2021 18:46
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I was eager to read what the likes of rawnsley and toynbee were going to smear in poo poo on the walls of their padded cell. Rawnsley delivers in spades: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/09/keir-srarmer-act-urgently-rescue-labour-from-plight no it's the voters that are wrong posted:The least persuasive diagnosis of why the party has suffered some bitter disappointments is that offered by visitors from cloud-Corbyn-land who demand a return to the glorious days of the last leader. Labour has a lot of hard thinking to do, but the party’s mind will be wandering in precisely the wrong direction if it decides that the answer is to re-embrace Corbynism. For those with short memories, that was the suicidal experiment that crushed the party’s parliamentary representation down to its lowest level since 1935 and inflicted deep tissue damage to its reputation that is still hurting today. Also, I am guessing Rawnsley is still besties with everyone's favorite poo poo stirrer Tom: no it's the voters that are wrong posted:One former Labour cabinet minister, who was incredibly pleased when Sir Keir won the leadership, now confesses to some disappointment: “There is no sense yet of a coherent political project. You need a leader who is a storyteller as well as having role authority. Keir has role authority, but he hasn’t got emotional engagement with the country.” I can't wait to hear what Toynbee has to say on the topic.
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May 9, 2021 18:48
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wtf is "role authority" and would this anonymous source like to expand on how Keith possesses it also loving lmao at the shocking revelation that a politician needs policies
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May 9, 2021 18:50
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Nice to see the Tories joining in on the fun as well: https://twitter.com/DanOB1986/status/1391434726297190401
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May 9, 2021 18:53
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I'm starting to think a lot of Labour figures really loving hate Starmer but had been discretely keeping their powder dry before now.
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Apraxin posted:Nice to see the Tories joining in on the fun as well: lmao can't wait for the next culture war to be "Drink driving is cool actually and I'm better at it when I'm shitfaced."
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Pistol_Pete posted:I'm starting to think a lot of Labour figures really loving hate Starmer but had been discretely keeping their powder dry before now. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a fair chunk of otherwise pretty neutral labour figures who are pissed off that a year has been wasted on factional rubbish leading up to a humiliating election performance when he ran on a platform of party unity and continuity of policy.
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XMNN posted:
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XMNN posted:wtf is "role authority" and would this anonymous source like to expand on how Keith possesses it There's a real tendency for centrists to invent meaningless new terms and act like they're supposed to be important to justify their dumb poo poo they have no real excuse for
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May 9, 2021 19:07
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Gats Akimbo posted:RAYNER'S LEOPARD-PRINT TROUSERS COST US HARTLEPOOL! Obviously all the Hartlepool people saw those trousers and worried that they were about to get their faces eaten. Let it be known that Hartlepool does not approve of leopards eating people's faces.
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May 9, 2021 19:12
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I think I'm right in thinking that Corbyn was criticized for a bit of an unfocused scattergun approach with too many wildly ranging policies being announced one after the other. I guess Starmer was determined not to make the same mistake.
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May 9, 2021 19:13
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Suppose Corbyn couldn't do much else except to try and distract people from the brexit issue and labours stance on it, which had been decided on earlier by party vote (iirc).
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May 9, 2021 19:16
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Considering Starmer had to be persuaded to run as an MP in the first place, and then only ran as Leader because everyone kept telling him how good he'd be, none of this is a surprise. The man is utterly incapable of doing anything that requires independent thought. And the fact that he continually seems to lean on the stupidest, worst-informed people in the room for advice is just the cherry on top.
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May 9, 2021 19:23
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I think I'm right in thinking that Corbyn was criticized for a bit of an unfocused scattergun approach with too many wildly ranging policies being announced one after the other. I guess Starmer was determined not to make the same mistake. Charitable, but I think he just doesn't have any policies. He doesn't have anything that he, personally, wants the Labour party to achieve. Basically any time he's asked in an interview "so what do you want to do?" he almost soils himself in panic.
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May 9, 2021 19:25
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Pistol_Pete posted:I'm starting to think a lot of Labour figures really loving hate Starmer but had been discretely keeping their powder dry before now. For sure. Wasn't too long ago you had people football chanting your leader's name all over the place and doing average person things like sitting down in train. Now you have a guy with a permanent confused expression, constantly wearing out of place italian mobster suits, and who only appears in stock photo like campaign pictures.
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May 9, 2021 19:27
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OwlFancier posted:Very unfair to chaos cultists to compare them to mandelson. That's an Imperial Priest quote, though. https://youtu.be/JbCjE4af1OE?t=100
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May 9, 2021 19:33
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kingturnip posted:and then only ran as Leader because everyone kept telling him how good he'd be, none of this is a surprise. https://twitter.com/BenNunnUK/status/1245786818257313792?s=19
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StarkingBarfish posted:I was eager to read what the likes of rawnsley and toynbee were going to smear in poo poo on the walls of their padded cell. Rawnsley delivers in spades: cloud-Corbyn-land is a great username
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May 9, 2021 19:41
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XMNN posted:wtf is "role authority" and would this anonymous source like to expand on how Keith possesses it He's a middle aged,rich,sensible, white man who wears a suit and is a Sir, so really its only natural for him to be PM.
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May 9, 2021 19:44
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His Divine Shadow posted:Suppose Corbyn couldn't do much else except to try and distract people from the brexit issue and labours stance on it, which had been decided on earlier by party vote (iirc). Once that vote came in, Brexit was a sealed deal, just looking at the constituency map of how the country voted. Any attempt to undermine it or treat it as advisory or anything that was even perceived as such would have just gone Britain's Road to Fascism. What wasn't guaranteed was who was going to lead Britain into Brexit, especially after the years of deadlock. And if anyone could have sold an anti-racist, anti-imperialist, internationalist version it was his faction (or Tony Benn, who was unfortunately dead at the time). But that didn't happen, so we got Brexit with the racists and conmen instead.
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I was trying to think of actual policy starmer had announced and it's somehow worse than 'none': Does anyone remember 'covid recovery bonds'? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/18/keir-starmer-labour-must-work-with-business-to-create-fairer-society This was back in February in his speech on the economy, and it sounded at the time like they were making it a huge policy reveal. I've not a peep about it since. Was this mentioned at all in the recent canvassing?
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May 9, 2021 19:48
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StarkingBarfish posted:I was trying to think of actual policy starmer had announced and it's somehow worse than 'none': No because it's not really anything to do with local government but more importantly it was a loving poo poo policy that had no purpose other than him needing a policy to announce when he said the pandemic is the greatest crisis since world war 2 and so something must be done.
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lmao https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1391444169617510407
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namesake posted:No because it's not really anything to do with local government but more importantly it was a loving poo poo policy that had no purpose other than him needing a policy to announce when he said the pandemic is the greatest crisis since world war 2 and so something must be done. That, and it was a policy previously announced by a tory think thank lol. Bristol is alright. StarkingBarfish fucked around with this message at 20:12 on May 9, 2021 |
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Can we take a minute to appreciate that Starmer's reshuffle has been going on for more than a day and all he's done is sack one person and promise them another unspecified job.
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XMNN posted:wtf is "role authority" and would this anonymous source like to expand on how Keith possesses it His role is sub.
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kingturnip posted:Considering Starmer had to be persuaded to run as an MP in the first place, and then only ran as Leader because everyone kept telling him how good he'd be, none of this is a surprise. There might be something in that. One person I know in the local CLP implored me last Autumn to rejoin 'for Keir' and also 'fessed up that she had written to him just months after him becoming an MP to please stand for leader.
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Gonzo McFee posted:WRONG UNIFORM Amazed Keir hasn't kicked Burnham out of the party for his scruffy jackets yet.
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She was dressed inappropriately for representing Starmer's Labour, in that she should have been wearing a clownsuit and a big red nose
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I was thinking earlier about how ridiculous it is calling it a shuffle, like it's random chance who gets what. I don't think a sensible organisation pulls straws to see who get what's job.
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jabby posted:Can we take a minute to appreciate that Starmer's reshuffle has been going on for more than a day and all he's done is sack one person and promise them another unspecified job. I assume he is consulting with Chapman very closely for multiple hours at a time.
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May 9, 2021 20:18
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Honestly why are melts *so* obsessed with Yvette Cooper? She seems a fairly bog-standard middle-ranker - is this the actual reason? They assume someone quite so milquetoast is the epitome of "electability"?
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May 9, 2021 20:20
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Is this party trying to do Putin publicity: where they cause so many scandals in a short space of time that people forget the original scandal? No one's forgetting that Starmer tanked Labour.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I was thinking earlier about how ridiculous it is calling it a shuffle, like it's random chance who gets what. I don't think a sensible organisation pulls straws to see who get what's job. It's nothing to do with job competence really. Mostly just a way of giving your mates something high profile to do, and putting your rivals in a position where they aren't allowed to openly shittalk you.
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