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Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

VikingofRock posted:

It's actually possible to change without a constitutional amendment—all you need is a supreme court willing to overturn DC vs. Heller (2008). You probably can't ban guns altogether with that, but you could ban handguns and put serious licensing / storage requirements on other guns.

Not to say that stacking the supreme court will be easy, but it's much less difficult than a constitutional amendment in the current climate.

That's good to know and another reason to add to the stack the courts pile, thanks!

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Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.

Is there a cybersecurity thread?

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002




Please let this provide justification and motivation for a cryptocurrency ban.

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

FlamingLiberal posted:

Yes I feel like Sandy Hook was the point where nothing was going to allow for even reasonable gun control

Even something like the Las Vegas shooting didn't do much except to prohibit bump stocks, which I think has since been reversed by the courts?

Vegas would have been like, a generational even like Columbine was. Instead we loving memory holed that to help the casinos, that poo poo was insane.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Probably going to have to wait until a mass shooting kills a major politician.

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

or some CEOs

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good
steve scalise had one of his balls blown off and he still plays up getting a gun in every pot

meanwhile gabby giffords makes anti-gun speeches whenever and wherever she can, and barely anyone in congress listens despite her being a living warning of what a rogue constituent can do to any of them

it's hard to imagine what would move the needle at this point

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

GhostofJohnMuir posted:

it's hard to imagine what would move the needle at this point

Fred Hampton rising from the grave

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


eXXon posted:

Please let this provide justification and motivation for a cryptocurrency ban.

I just had a horrible vision of future primary candidate Ted Cruz saying the word Dogecoin at CPAC

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

Fred Hampton rising from the grave

Yeah, Black People taking advantage of open carry in large enough numbers that police can't easily stop them with overwhelming force is pretty clearly the only thing that could possibly get the Republicans to act on Gun Control.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
I wonder. Given how the police have pretty much perfect the execution method of "We THOUGHT he had a gun!", them shooting a black guy open-carrying his legal rifle would not even register with the average republican as anything other than our brave blue boys keeping things safe for real americans.

Ask Philando Castille how consistent conservatives are about gun rights.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Sephyr posted:

I wonder. Given how the police have pretty much perfect the execution method of "We THOUGHT he had a gun!", them shooting a black guy open-carrying his legal rifle would not even register with the average republican as anything other than our brave blue boys keeping things safe for real americans.

Ask Philando Castille how consistent conservatives are about gun rights.

Yeah, but bear in mind that cops are cowards.

They only feel safe going after someone when they have all of the guns on top of 5-1 odds in their favor.

That's why the story would probably turn out differently if some cop tried rolling up on a group of armed Black Panthers who were willing and able to fight back, compared to one lone guy who was obeying the law and didn't even have the gun within arm's reach.

Cops won't start a fight they don't think they can win.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Vasukhani posted:

Vegas would have been like, a generational even like Columbine was. Instead we loving memory holed that to help the casinos, that poo poo was insane.

It's loving bizarre to me how "there weren't any mass shootings under Trump" (and the implied "now dems have to do loads of FALSE FLAGS to justify TAKING ARE GUNS") seems to have entered the chud canon already. Do you motherfuckers seriously not remember 2017?

Meatball
Mar 2, 2003

That's a Spicy Meatball

Pillbug

Sanguinia posted:

Yeah, Black People taking advantage of open carry in large enough numbers that police can't easily stop them with overwhelming force is pretty clearly the only thing that could possibly get the Republicans to act on Gun Control.

I don't think so. I think the cops would turn to live ammunition immediately and Fox news would call it an insurrection.

Edit: a chud had a child at stoneman douglas. I dont remeber what happened to her, but I remeber him directly being asked about itnchangimg his stance and he said no.

Them losing a loved one in a mass shooting will not change their mind. They were a sacrifice for the gun god so they could plink at rusty cars or paper targets on the weekends.

Meatball fucked around with this message at 13:00 on May 10, 2021

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

It's loving bizarre to me how "there weren't any mass shootings under Trump" (and the implied "now dems have to do loads of FALSE FLAGS to justify TAKING ARE GUNS") seems to have entered the chud canon already. Do you motherfuckers seriously not remember 2017?

They remember what is convenient for them to remember.

Nosre
Apr 16, 2002


Meatball posted:

Edit: a chud had a child at stoneman douglas. I dont remeber what happened to her, but I remeber him directly being asked about itnchangimg his stance and he said no.

Them losing a loved one in a mass shooting will not change their mind. They were a sacrifice for the gun god so they could plink at rusty cars or paper targets on the weekends.

Andrew Pollack probably

quote:

He believes that bulletproof glass, metal detectors, enhanced door lock systems, ID checkpoints, and "school marshals" can help prevent school shootings.[4]

On September 10, 2019, Pollack released his book, Why Meadow Died: The People and Policies That Created The Parkland Shooter and Endanger America's Students, alongside education expert and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, Max Eden.[5][6]

Pollack spoke at the 2020 Republican National Convention.

great guy

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Ghost Leviathan posted:

They remember what is convenient for them to remember.

And conveniently for them, it turns out that all mass shootings are false flags unless they can be definitively blamed on a Democrat or non-white person.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

It's loving bizarre to me how "there weren't any mass shootings under Trump" (and the implied "now dems have to do loads of FALSE FLAGS to justify TAKING ARE GUNS") seems to have entered the chud canon already. Do you motherfuckers seriously not remember 2017?

He inherited those mass shootings from Obama!

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

the_steve posted:

Yeah, but bear in mind that cops are cowards.

They only feel safe going after someone when they have all of the guns on top of 5-1 odds in their favor.

That's why the story would probably turn out differently if some cop tried rolling up on a group of armed Black Panthers who were willing and able to fight back, compared to one lone guy who was obeying the law and didn't even have the gun within arm's reach.

Cops won't start a fight they don't think they can win.

Which is why they would likely follow one of those black panthers and try to bust him by himself later when he's picking up his kid from school or driving somewhere. They just smelled pot on his car from 500 feet away!

Then, after that guy's death gets everyone nice and riled and protesting, call the National Guard to take the heat while weeping about how poorly they are treated.

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Sanguinia posted:

Yeah, Black People taking advantage of open carry in large enough numbers that police can't easily stop them with overwhelming force is pretty clearly the only thing that could possibly get the Republicans to act on Gun Control.

I mean... that was kind of the goal of NFAC. I don't think it's really convinced any Republicans to change the gun laws.

I don't think there's anything that would get the Republican Party to change their mind, it'll just be something they're forced to deal with if laws ever get changed due to Democratic control and/or they're able to pick off a couple Republican politicians to support it as well.

E: For an easy example of this, look at Australia. A lot of the conservative politicians and citizens were furious about their gun law changes back in the 90s. Then, after a decade or so, it's not a big deal anymore.

Kalit fucked around with this message at 13:44 on May 10, 2021

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Kalit posted:

I mean... that was kind of the goal of NFAC.

I don't think it's really convinced any Republicans to change the gun laws. I don't think there's anything that would get the Republican Party to change their mind, it'll just be something they're forced to deal with if laws ever get changed due to Democratic control and/or they're able to pick off a couple Republican politicians to support it as well.

E: For an easy example of this, look at Australia. A lot of the conservative politicians and citizens were furious about their gun law changes back in the 90s. Then, after a decade or so, it's not a big deal anymore.

I would look at Canada as a model because it's practically identical to us except people don't stop and think about their bank account before they call an ambulance- significantly more gun control than here but absolutely nothing stopping you from going hunting or target shooting or whatever. Hell I spent more time shooting living in Ontario and Québec than in Texas. Somehow vastly fewer gun crimes tho. It's not perfect of course- the Ecole Polytechnique shooting was a model for murderous incels everywhere- but it's an improvement.

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa

Sanguinia posted:

Yeah, Black People taking advantage of open carry in large enough numbers that police can't easily stop them with overwhelming force is pretty clearly the only thing that could possibly get the Republicans to act on Gun Control.

I'm not sure about that anymore. I think we're past even that.

Remember the BLM shooting in Dallas? You had a black man shooting cops and explicitly stating that he wanted to kill white people and especially cops. This happened during a BLM rally. I cannot imagine a more red meat scenario for the GOP, but not even a peep happened WRT gun control.

Racism and the fantasy of being able to murder black people is an enormous and vital part of gun culture in the US, but it is no longer *the* main force.
Guns have truly become part of these people's identities and sense of manhood. And so the question now ceases being 'under what situation will you consent to having your guns taken away' and becomes fairly literally 'what would it take to make you agree to being castrated?'

If anything the more armed black communities become the more armed the Republicans will be. An arms race, not gun control, is the result of black communities open carrying in large numbers.

EDIT: To clarify, I'm not saying I'm necessarily opposed to what may be a necessary arms race. I'm not here to tell black people how to best try and protect themselves and their loved ones. I'm just saying I think gun control, at least in the sense of trying to win over these people, is absolutely a lost battle and you will never make any progress on the issue until the GOP's power is broken.

RoboChrist 9000 fucked around with this message at 14:08 on May 10, 2021

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Does Biden have plans to bring the fight back to Russian hackers in this new cyber war? Or going against crypto? Knocking East Coast oil supplies offline is a big deal.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Grouchio posted:

Does Biden have plans to bring the fight back to Russian hackers in this new cyber war? Or going against crypto? Knocking East Coast oil supplies offline is a big deal.

He isn't going to announce his cyberwar plans if he has them so :iiam:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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He'll teach those Russians how to open pdf

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
The plan is to require Adobe Flash in order to remotely connect to U.S. government PC's. Then, sit back, and allow our adversaries and cybercriminals to bring themselves down from within.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1391742458199953409

And only 246 deaths nationally. The vaccines are very, very good.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



zoux posted:

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1391742458199953409

And only 246 deaths nationally. The vaccines are very, very good.
Good, although Sundays are low reporting usually

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
https://twitter.com/rtyson82/status/1391554431209156614?s=20

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Kentucky Fried Brains

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
45 seconds from pounding on the door to breaking in. If you believe in second amendment bullshit you have to admit Kenneth Walker was justified in firing a single shot at the gang of murderers breaking into his girlfriend's home.

The Sean
Apr 17, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!
Conservatives are all liars so they'll never admit it. NRA folks didn't say poo poo after Philando was murdered for legally carrying (while black).

Also, yesterday was John Browns birthday. loving legend.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)
"John H. Brown (May 9, 1800 – December 2, 1859) was an American abolitionist leader. Brown felt that violence was necessary to end American slavery, as years of speeches, sermons, petitions, and moral persuasion had failed.[1] A religious man more than anything else,[2][3] Brown believed he was raised up by God to strike the death blow to American slavery, believing that God placed certain men on Earth to perform deeds ahead of their countrymen. He was certain in the morality of his cause, willing to sacrifice both his own life and the lives of others to achieve his dream of ending American slavery[4][5]"

The Sean fucked around with this message at 15:23 on May 10, 2021

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


That reminds me I never finished The Good Lord Bird. Watched a couple of episodes and then got sidetracked by something or another.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

The Sean posted:

Also, yesterday was John Browns birthday. loving legend.

[url]
[3] Brown believed he was raised up by God to strike the death blow to American slavery, believing that God placed certain men on Earth to perform deeds ahead of their countrymen. He was certain in the morality of his cause, willing to sacrifice both his own life and the lives of others to achieve his dream of ending American slavery[4][5]"

John Brown was right. John Brown's actions are widely cited in any lead up to the ACW. Whether they merely exposed the extent of the underlying feelings and emotions or had a causative effect doesn't really make a difference.

edit: See the evolution of John Browns Body to the The Battle Hymn of the Republic.

Murgos fucked around with this message at 15:35 on May 10, 2021

AvesPKS
Sep 26, 2004

I don't dance unless I'm totally wasted.

The Sean posted:

Conservatives are all liars so they'll never admit it. NRA folks didn't say poo poo after Philando was murdered for legally carrying (while black).

Also, yesterday was John Browns birthday. loving legend.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)
"John H. Brown (May 9, 1800 – December 2, 1859) was an American abolitionist leader. Brown felt that violence was necessary to end American slavery, as years of speeches, sermons, petitions, and moral persuasion had failed.[1] A religious man more than anything else,[2][3] Brown believed he was raised up by God to strike the death blow to American slavery, believing that God placed certain men on Earth to perform deeds ahead of their countrymen. He was certain in the morality of his cause, willing to sacrifice both his own life and the lives of others to achieve his dream of ending American slavery[4][5]"

During the siege in the firehouse Harper's Ferry, one of his sons (Owen I believe) had gotten gutshot and was being loud I guess. John told him to shut up and die like a man. Robert E. Lee would've killed John if he hasn't grabbed his ceremonial sword by accident. Also after he got captured, friends sent word to him that they were planning a rescue, but John forbid it out of concern for his jailer's safety. John Wilkes Booth was one of the Virginia militiamen that witnessed his hanging. Also he should've come up with a better plan.

Murgos posted:

John Brown was right. John Brown's actions are widely cited in any lead up to the ACW. Whether they merely exposed the extent of the underlying feelings and emotions or had a causative effect doesn't really make a difference.

edit: See the evolution of John Browns Body to the The Battle Hymn of the Republic.

During the raid John took pikes with him to use, until they could steal the guns. Well, after the failed action, pikes were sent to each southern governor as a warning of what was expected.

AvesPKS fucked around with this message at 15:39 on May 10, 2021

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Edgar Allen Ho posted:

It's loving bizarre to me how "there weren't any mass shootings under Trump" (and the implied "now dems have to do loads of FALSE FLAGS to justify TAKING ARE GUNS") seems to have entered the chud canon already. Do you motherfuckers seriously not remember 2017?

To be fair, 2017 was approximately ten years ago at this point.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
The Kansas state house has a big mural of John Brown nowadays. I don't think he'd approve of modern Kansas.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Kemp is basically trying to give the GOP all the extra muscle it can prior to midterms:

https://twitter.com/CommieGIR/status/1391764086803898369?s=20

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

https://twitter.com/vpapupdates/status/1391764914742644739?s=19

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAAH It is only 6 percent counted, but the moderate candidate is in 4th LOL\

The top 3 are all trumpites and espouse the Big Lie

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Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

friendbot2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/vpapupdates/status/1391764914742644739?s=19

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAAH It is only 6 percent counted, but the moderate candidate is in 4th LOL

Something I hadn't realized until reading up yesterday is that the VAGOP, in a last-ditch attempt to prevent human election forfeit Amanda Chase from being nominated, has adopted ranked choice voting for their "convention" this year. They'll never support it for an actual election, but they're desperate enough to employ voting reforms to reduce vote splitting and increase the likelihood of nominating a broadly acceptable candidate in their own private election.

It'll still fail, probably; ranked choice voting can't save you from your own electorate being cuckoo for Hitler Puffs. But they're hoping all the Not Amanda Chase candidates' supporters will list the other candidates as second/third/etc choices and consolidate enough votes to win.

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