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Is there something about Naval mines where they couldn't just plant explosives on it and do a controlled detonation? We're they just trying to do things as cheaply as possible?
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Grip it and rip it posted:Is there something about Naval mines where they couldn't just plant explosives on it and do a controlled detonation? We're they just trying to do things as cheaply as possible? I can't imagine they're particularly well supplied in EOD equipment or personnel. Kicking it off a hill is the expedient option.
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May 7, 2021 01:31
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You guys are forgetting the primary reason to do things- for fun.
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May 7, 2021 01:42
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The aftermath of the calibration incident in the Secret Santa thrad has been posted, but here’s post in the Dangerous Chemistry thread asking about it there, before the fateful call.Comrade Blyatlov posted:Actually it's more of a generalised question anyway. So in the yearly secret santa I was gifted this fine piece of equipment:
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May 7, 2021 07:59
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How did it get it up there in the first place?
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May 7, 2021 08:03
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Volmarias posted:Is there a link for this? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?goto=post&postid=501703733#post501703733
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May 7, 2021 08:20
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Wasabi the J posted:How did it get it up there in the first place? Secret Satan 2019
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May 7, 2021 11:56
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FrozenVent posted:Secret Satan 2019 that naval mine tho
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May 7, 2021 13:54
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Grip it and rip it posted:Is there something about Naval mines where they couldn't just plant explosives on it and do a controlled detonation? We're they just trying to do things as cheaply as possible? I think they were trying to use it to clear a mine field? This would have been during the Yugoslav war and it seems that they were doing it for effect....
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May 7, 2021 14:26
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I found this place, which seems to offer instrument calibration as outlined here. I'm not saying it will be reasonably priced, but its somewhere to start.quote:Calibration of contamination meters
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May 7, 2021 15:19
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MrYenko posted:I found this place, which seems to offer instrument calibration as outlined here. I'm not saying it will be reasonably priced, but its somewhere to start. Again, there's very little reason to bother because its a High Range Geiger Counter, so chances are if he's ever around the radiation needed to even get that needle moving, we've got bigger problems than worrying about its last calibration. If he really wants it calibrated, best bet is finding your local College's Radiation Safety group, they may be willing to do the cal for you and even provide a cal cert.
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May 7, 2021 16:00
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CommieGIR posted:Again, there's very little reason to bother because its a High Range Geiger Counter, so chances are if he's ever around the radiation needed to even get that needle moving, we've got bigger problems than worrying about its last calibration. You say that like it couldn’t happen to twofings. Seriously when the Ever Given ran aground my first reflex was to check if he’d gotten a job with Evergreen.
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May 7, 2021 22:41
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I had the chance to work with Canada's Nuclear Safety folks for a while and the state of the art detection equipment is insane. I'm taking 'We drive around this nondescript van and the detectors in the back are so sensitive they detect when you are driving across bridges because the steel used to build them is ever so slightly above background level' When we need stuff calibrated for DND, there's a centralized outfit that takes care of most equipment in the country - and it would surprise me if other countries didn't have specialized industrial services for instrument calibration.
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May 8, 2021 01:40
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Oh I found a calibration service in NZ. I just can't really justify $450 for what, really, is a cool toy.
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May 8, 2021 03:15
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I hope you don't mind that I pass on this story and call you my friend. This is way too funny not to share.
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May 9, 2021 22:37
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Go for it. I hung up the phone after that call and just thought "no one will ever believe this."
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May 9, 2021 22:45
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DarkDobe posted:I had the chance to work with Canada's Nuclear Safety folks for a while and the state of the art detection equipment is insane. WHO'S EATING A BANANA? WHO. IS. EATING. A. loving. BANANA
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May 10, 2021 05:14
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DarkDobe posted:I had the chance to work with Canada's Nuclear Safety folks for a while and the state of the art detection equipment is insane. Sure they do. And the BBC has vans that detect TV.
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May 10, 2021 06:42
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bulletsponge13 posted:Sure they do. And the BBC has vans that detect TV. so they can fine people for not having a tv license 
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May 10, 2021 06:55
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bulletsponge13 posted:Sure they do. And the BBC has vans that detect TV. TV detector vans are pure scare tactics. In theory you can pick up RF emissions from the flyback transformer in a CRT TV, but it's very short ranged. You can't drive a van through a neighborhood and find which houses have a TV.
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May 10, 2021 08:49
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Collateral Damage posted:TV detector vans are pure scare tactics. In theory you can pick up RF emissions from the flyback transformer in a CRT TV, but it's very short ranged. You can't drive a van through a neighborhood and find which houses have a TV. A superheterodyne receiver (which is almost every radio receiver made since the 1930s) has some fairly predictable unintentional emissions, if you know enough about the receiver you can even determine what frequency it's tuned to. Police radar vendor Stalker sells a device called Spectre that uses the same principle to detect radar detectors where they're illegal as seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alfq2znl9J4 There's also the low tech strategy of driving around after sunset and simply watching the pattern of glow coming through someone's windows. If someone's watching live and you know when to expect a commercial break it's not too hard to correlate things from there.
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May 10, 2021 16:55
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bulletsponge13 posted:Sure they do. And the BBC has vans that detect TV. Low-background Steel is actually a thing, so this doesn't sound that implausible? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel
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May 10, 2021 17:09
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/nov/03/worlds-biggest-grave-robbery-asias-disappearing-ww2-shipwrecks tl;dr shipwrecks are such a good source of low-background steel that divers are ripping apart sunken WW2 ships to get it.
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May 10, 2021 17:13
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bulletsponge13 posted:Sure they do. And the BBC has vans that detect TV. I mean....they did? Back during the Electron Gun days of CRT televisions, they very much did have vans that were likely capable of doing such. Vengarr posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/nov/03/worlds-biggest-grave-robbery-asias-disappearing-ww2-shipwrecks Yeah, and they are managing to do so without being observed, which is impressive and scary. The hypothesis is that they are not so much using divers as dropping explosives on the ship and picking up what breaks off.
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May 10, 2021 17:15
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Grave robbing and loving up archaeological contexts all in one!
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May 10, 2021 17:18
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Caconym posted:Low-background Steel is actually a thing, so this doesn't sound that implausible? I believe this came up like years and years ago in a CE thread, but I was like "this is pretty cool, I'll share this wiki with my dad". He got really mad about it, like, weirdly upset about. It was at that time that I realized he had brain worms and somehow managed to keep me from noticing until I was out of high school. So, thanks CE thread.
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What exactly is there to be upset about? I can't think of anything E: ah, never really thought about that angle. EvenWorseOpinions fucked around with this message at 18:06 on May 10, 2021 |
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May 10, 2021 17:42
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EvenWorseOpinions posted:What exactly is there to be upset about? I can't think of anything "Mining" fallen ships is pretty much tomb raiding, which in this specific case is raiding us navy ships full of dead service members. I can see uproar in scrapping the final rest place of a non negligible amount of people for pennies.
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May 10, 2021 17:49
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Must be worth significantly more than pennies
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May 10, 2021 17:50
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taqueso posted:Must be worth significantly more than pennies Erasing US presence/history in the region is probably seen as a nice side effect too.
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May 10, 2021 17:51
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Speaking of divers, here's a story appropriate for this thread paraphrased from the book "Descent into Darkness". The author was one of the Navy divers assigned to salvage the ships sunk during the Pearl Harbor raid. It was really miserable work. No one had ever tried doing something like that before, so they had to make up brand-new procedures and techniques on the spot. They had to do everything in total darkness because the water was polluted with oil and chemicals, and at breakneck speed (America needs these battleships badly!). The influx of sailors meant that the male:female ratio of the island was absurd. And worst of all, the Army had enforced prohibition on Hawaii. So our intrepid divers built a still with the intent of trading booze for sex. None of them actually knew anything about brewing, so they basically just threw all the ingredients together in a barrel, capped it tightly and hoped for the best. Then they hid the barrel in the rafters of their makeshift clubhouse. It was a shack with a tin roof that they were using to hold their diving equipment. It got hot during the day. Very hot. Cut to a week or so later. The officer in charge of the dive crew comes in to ask how things are going. Before anyone can speak, a bomb goes off. Everyone is knocked off their feet, poo poo goes flying, wooden shrapnel has filled the ceiling with holes, and the officer is covered head-to-toe in fermented pineapple. Someone is heard to ask "So how are we going to get girls now?"
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Vengarr posted:Speaking of divers, here's a story appropriate for this thread paraphrased from the book "Descent into Darkness". My wife's grandfather was an army reserve officers on the equivalent of his AT when the war kicked off and was mobilized for the duration of the war by the next week. He was at one of the army air bases so he's a legit Pearl Harbor survivor. Anyways he was put in charge of the fleet movement tracking room with about 30 women civilians assigned to him. He would sit in a tall beach life guard chair and supervise. He ended up dating almost all of them during the duration of the war because none of them were allowed to mix with the general population without an escort. When I asked about uh.... other things he did with them he touched his nose and pointed at 10 of them in a photo he took with them and the final one was "And that's how I met your wife's grandma".
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May 10, 2021 18:20
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I meant it as a dumb throw away joke.
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May 10, 2021 18:21
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bulletsponge13 posted:I meant it as a dumb throw away joke. Live joke grenade! Take cover!
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Vengarr posted:Speaking of divers, here's a story appropriate for this thread paraphrased from the book "Descent into Darkness". Something like this happened to me in college, albeit it involved my roommate with terminal ADHD trying to make apple cider by juicing a bunch of apples that he picked from the tree in our backyard, filling up three wine bottles with the juice, then dumping a bunch of yeast in there and corking them. When they exploded, it looked like someone blew their head off in our kitchen and took forever to clean up.
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May 10, 2021 19:55
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Live joke grenade! Take cover! Joke out!
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May 10, 2021 19:58
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Something like this happened to me in college, albeit it involved my roommate with terminal ADHD trying to make apple cider by juicing a bunch of apples that he picked from the tree in our backyard, filling up three wine bottles with the juice, then dumping a bunch of yeast in there and corking them. When they exploded, it looked like someone blew their head off in our kitchen and took forever to clean up. https://i.imgur.com/hP6vWQ9.mp4
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ArcMage posted:That's Genesplicer. Yep, that's me. I have far too much radioactive material. To the point where, if my house collapses in an earthquake or burns in a fire, It will technically be a toxic waste site. Sitting on my desk at school, a couple of feet from me, is an aircraft compass with radium paint. It is facing a Geiger counter that is mounted to the wall, which is quietly clicking away.
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Post your radium jar please
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Genesplicer posted:Yep, that's me. I have far too much radioactive material. To the point where, if my house collapses in an earthquake or burns in a fire, It will technically be a toxic waste site. Sitting on my desk at school, a couple of feet from me, is an aircraft compass with radium paint. It is facing a Geiger counter that is mounted to the wall, which is quietly clicking away. You gotta share pics.
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