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Dapper_Swindler posted:there was another case where the another dude got pardoned or paroled because "he found christ and worked at the governors mansion on prison detail or something. guy then shot like 4 cops on the head like year later at a cafe.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:this goes way beyond weird southern gently caress poo poo. they arnt defending this. some will say "prayers for his soul" or "all porn is evil" but they won't do poo poo. Yeah, I doubt many go to bat for Duggar here, but like they'll also refuse to concede that there were already warning signs and victims and that they were wrong to excuse and ignore them. Although I mean, its 2021. Fox News might just go with "fakes from China." But the Duggars probably aren't worth it anymore.
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Casimir Radon posted:Yeah, Arkansas is one of those hosed up southern states that uses prisoners as slave labor at the governor’s mansion. Pretty sure that’s still happening. i am sure it it is. i am thankful i live in PA. even the lovely red parts of PA are better off then Arkansas. Casimir Radon posted:When I checked a few days ago Counting On was still airing. It’s either going to get canceled or shoved into hiatus for a long while. Or, cynically but still possible, they commission a special for sweet controversy bucks. probably waiting to see how it all goes down. but it wouldn't shock me if its quietly shelved. STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I doubt many go to bat for Duggar here, but like they'll also refuse to concede that there were already warning signs and victims and that they were wrong to excuse and ignore them. yeah. its a mix of the crimes are WAY too awful and also the evangelical poo poo alone doesn't sell outside evangelicals and some chuds. but yeah, they will absolutly just blame porno or "degenerate culture" and ignore that JIm bob and that cop taught him to hide it.
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Casimir Radon posted:Yeah, Arkansas is one of those hosed up southern states that uses prisoners as slave labor at the governor’s mansion. Pretty sure that’s still happening. ...I'm sorry what? There's multiple?
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TulliusCicero posted:...I'm sorry what?
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STAC Goat posted:Although I mean, its 2021. Fox News might just go with "fakes from China." But the Duggars probably aren't worth it anymore. The thread about it on Freep was already full of "The FBI is full of liberal Democrats who hate Christians so the accusations are probably fake" and claims that it's "really easy to 'find' child porn on someone's computer." There's definitely going to be people who think he was framed and that the evil Marxist socialist atheist Biden is arresting this poor man just because he believes in Jesus, but like I said you're never going to see that kind of defense from anyone remotely close to mainstream. Especially with the word out about what the stuff actually was, Fox News definitely isn't going to touch it, they might (but probably won't) do a "Well we're all sinners and hopefully he will repent and find forgiveness from God" but like you said, the Duggars aren't worth defending anymore.
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Casimir Radon posted:According to this site: Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Missouri, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Georgia have prisoners working in government buildings. But if the 2016 election taught us anything, it's actually good and a win-win scenario, because it gives the inmates a valuable opportunity to get "work experience" that they aren't allowed to reference to get a job in the real world, and the officials can use the inmates to do dilettante phrenology studies.
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Casimir Radon posted:Yeah, Arkansas is one of those hosed up southern states that uses prisoners as slave labor at the governor’s mansion. Pretty sure that’s still happening. So, just a regular old southern state then. Also, I checked and FOX News' website is playing the Duggar story pretty straight.
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BiggerBoat posted:So, just a regular old southern state then. Exactly. No one wants to defend this poo poo or is going to in the mainstream right. Dudes crimes are too obvious.
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I heard Alex Jones on my local station. He took calls talking about vaccines and pushed his supplements. I thought info wars was independent. I was honestly shocked.
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He is independent, but some local stations do get his show. I can’t remember the name of the one big-ish radio network that still does broadcast him. E I shouldn’t say independent, he’s I think still funded by the gold-seller dude. I’ll shut up now.
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He used to be on an AM station in Boise, but apparently he was deemed too batshit insane for Idaho (which is a pretty high bar to clear), and his time slot is now occupied by a show about guns and a knockoff version of Coast to Coast AM.
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Speaking of, I recommend Knowledge Fight, the infowars criticism podcast. By and large it's just the right amount of Alex for me with enough commentary that the rhetorical analysis is sometimes as much fun as hearing the most batshit highlights. Picked it up at their Jan6 episode, it just got a NYT article. Now that they're at 555 episodes, they have a lot of history with him so some it is check backs at what Alex sounded like 10-15 years ago, how the grift has changed, and how the holy war against the demon Chicom globalists is going. I declare info war on YOU! ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 07:30 on May 10, 2021 |
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BigglesSWE posted:All Policy Wonks call in! My neck is freakishly large. I've been enjoying the 2003 episodes. Hearing Alex call Rush Limbaugh a commie liberal was a real trip.
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Even better because he was basically doing a Rush impression the whole time too!
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:Even better because he was basically doing a Rush impression the whole time too! Yeah it's really obvious in the 2003 episodes
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Blackjack! Dammit...
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Froghammer posted:2021blackjack ILL Machina posted:Blackjack! Dammit... Oooo, so close.
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The episodes around January 6th are very interesting. The day itself one of the lesser InfoWarriors kept on rooting and hollering about it being a great victory and all, only for Alex to stumble in later to try and pin it all on infiltrating Antifa, because Alex Jones is a grifter first and foremost, and backing a failed coup is no way to make money. It’s all the more obvious nowadays when he seems to mention Trump pretty much never.
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BigglesSWE posted:The episodes around January 6th are very interesting. The day itself one of the lesser InfoWarriors kept on rooting and hollering about it being a great victory and all, only for Alex to stumble in later to try and pin it all on infiltrating Antifa, because Alex Jones is a grifter first and foremost, and backing a failed coup is no way to make money. yeah. i am mixed on how much jones actually believes(it doesn't matter but still a fun topic). personally i think he does believe a bunch of his own bullshit including the insane school shooting poo poo but he clearly isnt loyal to trump and he knows that if he stays loyal, he could get sued even more and investigated or some poo poo.
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BiggerBoat posted:Also, I checked and FOX News' website is playing the Duggar story pretty straight. Couple days late, but surprisingly, OANN is playing it straight too - they've got one story about him that basically just gives the facts. Newsmax, on the other hand, has run multiple stories, and while they're trying to appear neutral, they're obviously trying to gin up sympathy for him and his family.
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:Couple days late, but surprisingly, OANN is playing it straight too - they've got one story about him that basically just gives the facts. Speaking of Newsmax, here's a dude trolling the poo poo out of their morning anchor https://www.huffpost.com/entry/newsmax-rob-finnerty-david-litt-dominion_n_60993b9de4b05fb33f4f922c
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. i am mixed on how much jones actually believes(it doesn't matter but still a fun topic). personally i think he does believe a bunch of his own bullshit including the insane school shooting poo poo but he clearly isnt loyal to trump and he knows that if he stays loyal, he could get sued even more and investigated or some poo poo. I’m pretty sure he’s genuinely anti-vax and genuinely Christ crazy (he does talk a lot in evangelical terms, and says the literal Devil is behind the globalists). Anything in between all that can be changed as needed. He’s also a white supremacist, no doubt about it. I guess what I’m saying is he’s a real rear end, but the particulars of his assness is interchangeable depending on the mood of that particular day. BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 16:19 on May 11, 2021 |
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Man, I don't know where Christians think they're primarily being oppressed but it sure as poo poo aint on the radio. Today I hit scan on mine just to take a tour and there's a poo poo ton of Jesus stuff out there.
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BigglesSWE posted:I’m pretty sure he’s genuinely anti-vax and genuinely Christ crazy (he does talk a lot in evangelical terms, and says the literal Devil is behind the globalists). Anything in between all that can be changed as needed. yeah. i am mixed on the fundie poo poo because he is too sane for fundie level poo poo. i believe he is anti-vax and probably believes alot of the "globalist" poo poo. BiggerBoat posted:Man, I don't know where Christians think they're primarily being oppressed but it sure as poo poo aint on the radio. Today I hit scan on mine just to take a tour and there's a poo poo ton of Jesus stuff out there. i mean i have been reading about the history of Demonology and various dumb poo poo like that. i am always shocked by uber christian fundies who believe all of that poo poo is real and corporeal and not weird bullshit written by weird academics/bored monks and now is a mine for nerds and artists.
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BigglesSWE posted:I’m pretty sure he’s genuinely anti-vax and genuinely Christ crazy (he does talk a lot in evangelical terms, and says the literal Devil is behind the globalists). Anything in between all that can be changed as needed. I think dude is a complete and utter charlatan and huckster and doesn't believe a single thing he says. If you listen to his story about being 14 with a Ferrari and dating a Satanic cult head cheerleader, it's clear the dude is lying completely and sees how much BS he can say before he loses his grift of selling Brain force pills and Chicken Bone Broth to bunker loonies. He's evil, but in the "completely immoral greed" way TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 23:21 on May 11, 2021 |
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Casimir Radon posted:Q is the only thing to stupid for Jones to get involved with. My take on it (through Knowledge Fight, they’re my in-between to his madness) is that he is jealous of Q’s popularity. But Q is also too esoteric for him to truly control or monetize. Alex Jones doesn’t really talk about vague villains and heroes with no faces. It’s Trump, or Jesus, or God, vs. Bill Gates, China, Satan, etc. An interesting point KF pointed out a while ago is that Jones’ insistence on him not advocating exactly the sort of things that January 6th was is very obviously bullshit because his rhetoric is very much “THIS IS THE END GAME THEY WILL LITERALLY KILL US ALL WITHIN THE MONTH THIS IS HAPPENING THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY” over and over again. If you’re a listener, and you take him as being sincere and serious, then taking violent action against the state makes perfect sense. The fact that he himself is only in it to sell nutrients to doomsday preppers doesn’t really excuse any of his messaging, when the people on the other side of his broadcast are sharpening knives while mapping out the best way to attack the closest Planned Parenthood. It’s vile.
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Casimir Radon posted:Q is the only thing to stupid for Jones to get involved with. One thing Jones has never tolerated is competiton.
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TulliusCicero posted:I think dude is a complete and utter charlatan and huckster and doesn't believe a single thing he says. This is contradicted a little in the most recent flashback episode where, in 2003, he was cut off whilst saying (probably) “literally satan.” I’m starting to fall into the camp of: he’s always huffed at least half his own poo poo.
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BiggerBoat posted:Man, I don't know where Christians think they're primarily being oppressed but it sure as poo poo aint on the radio. Today I hit scan on mine just to take a tour and there's a poo poo ton of Jesus stuff out there. They need it. The modern-day evangelical movement needs to have some sort of persecution so they can be the David parallel. Without the 'poor, put upon Christian Soldiers' narrative on their side, they have nothing to hide how terrible their culture war bullshit actually is. It's one of the most important parts of the evangelist toolkit.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. i am mixed on how much jones actually believes(it doesn't matter but still a fun topic). personally i think he does believe a bunch of his own bullshit including the insane school shooting poo poo but he clearly isnt loyal to trump and he knows that if he stays loyal, he could get sued even more and investigated or some poo poo. BigglesSWE posted:My take on it (through Knowledge Fight, they’re my in-between to his madness) is that he is jealous of Q’s popularity. But Q is also too esoteric for him to truly control or monetize. Alex Jones doesn’t really talk about vague villains and heroes with no faces. It’s Trump, or Jesus, or God, vs. Bill Gates, China, Satan, etc.
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J.A.B.C. posted:They need it. This is why your average Evangelical is an anti-masker who flirts with anti-vax propaganda. They're so obsessed with being at the center of a persecution narrative that things like loving your neighbor or helping the poor are kinda lost in the shuffle. No, the important thing is that someone, preferably with authority, is telling you to do something... And then you don't do it! So when the government tells you to do anything, you gotta resist it! It's what Christianity is all about! Their take-away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ is "gently caress you I won't do what you tell me", which, while potentially cool, is ruined by the fact that they're also terrible people who want minorities to go away.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:This is why your average Evangelical is an anti-masker who flirts with anti-vax propaganda. They're so obsessed with being at the center of a persecution narrative that things like loving your neighbor or helping the poor are kinda lost in the shuffle. No, the important thing is that someone, preferably with authority, is telling you to do something... And then you don't do it! So when the government tells you to do anything, you gotta resist it! It's what Christianity is all about! Except they are cool with a magically ordained Dictator Dad telling them what to do if they are white and their church/ Televangelist tells them so Like they are anti-authoritarian if it's not a white guy they already agree with: they are perfectly happy with a Christian state telling everyone what to do.
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J.A.B.C. posted:They need it. It's also how they convince themselves that they're good Christians. 18 “If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as its own. Because you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world—therefore the world hates you. 20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘Servants are not greater than their master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also. 21 But they will do all these things to you on account of my name, because they do not know him who sent me. - John 15:18-21 They need to believe that liberals/leftists/the Democrats hate them because "If those people hate us then that means that we're good Christians just like Jesus said!" Since they live in a country where Christianity is the majority and they're free to worship as they please, they have to turn things as tiny as "Starbucks cups say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas" into persecution, because Jesus said they would be persecuted and hated by the world. Crunch Buttsteak posted:So when the government tells you to do anything, you gotta resist it! It's what Christianity is all about! Let every person be subject to the governing authorities; for there is no authority except from God, and those authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you wish to have no fear of the authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive its approval; 4 for it is God’s servant for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for the authority does not bear the sword in vain! It is the servant of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be subject, not only because of wrath but also because of conscience. 6 For the same reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, busy with this very thing. 7 Pay to all what is due them—taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due. - Romans 13:1-7 There's a lot that could be said about this passage (I don't think Paul was trying to say "Always obey oppressive governments!") but it's funny that there is a verse that specifically says "Listen to authority and pay your taxes."
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