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I've been working for a company for years, and they've grown considerably during that time. As I'm no longer investing new equity, I'd like to "adjust" my salary to be closer to the market rate, which would mean a pretty significant raise. Has anyone ever seen this sort of situation play out well? Does everyone have any recommendations?
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May 11, 2021 17:15
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just signed an offer, I’ve been doing okay for myself but finally obtained SV tier figgies and get to stay in flyover land I’d like to thank the academy jesus WEP posted:is this how interviews go when you know someone yeah pretty much one time I reached out to an old boss, we had lunch, I had a formal offer in my inbox before I got home interviewed at another place where half the team knew me from tech community and I had also just given a conference talk in that city. I had the usual panels but one guy literally said “I normally have this dumb whiteboard problem I gotta give but I saw your conference talk last week so I’m gonna skip that and let’s just casually talk shop for an hour”
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May 11, 2021 17:19
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Cheekio posted:I've been working for a company for years, and they've grown considerably during that time. As I'm no longer investing new equity, I'd like to "adjust" my salary to be closer to the market rate, which would mean a pretty significant raise. It’s possible, but usually much easier to just get a new job. Does upper management love you?
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May 11, 2021 17:30
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i think my recruiter is trying to schedule my offer call but instead of the time i told them i was available they have scheduled 2 different times that are not the time i said i was available! what a power move
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May 11, 2021 17:37
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Acer Pilot posted:i think my recruiter is trying to schedule my offer call but instead of the time i told them i was available they have scheduled 2 different times that are not the time i said i was available! I love that, "please call before 10am or after 2pm, I am in meetings for the rest of the day" "how about 10:30, noon or 1pm?"
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May 11, 2021 17:39
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3rd party recruiters are without exception
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May 11, 2021 17:40
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drat this thread has been popping off lately
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May 11, 2021 18:29
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Cheekio posted:I've been working for a company for years, and they've grown considerably during that time. As I'm no longer investing new equity, I'd like to "adjust" my salary to be closer to the market rate, which would mean a pretty significant raise. do you mean you're no longer vesting?
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May 11, 2021 18:30
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when you fully vest companies typically give you more options on a new vesting schedule to keep you around, if yours isn't that's unusual but not unheard of
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May 11, 2021 18:35
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holy gently caress this apple sourcing recruiter has loving destroyed my inbox. they put that i was willing to relocate when i explicitly said i'm not. now i have recruiters for every team looking for ios engineers emailing me. also this feels like a bad system but i guess it's also beneficial in that a single interview doesn't close you off from the company for a year. i really don't want to talk to all these recruiters, though. it's loving overwhelming.
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May 11, 2021 18:40
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They sort of promoted me to mid/upper management so yeah, they must like me some. That also works against me in terms of how much money the market says I should get, as I became an old timer with an impressive title that may not directly translate to the same title at another shop. Also you're right, I'm no longer vesting equity. Golden handcuffs are off, baby!
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May 11, 2021 18:42
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I don't think I'm interested in working for Facebook, but they keep hounding me to interview there and it seems like it would be good practice if not a good alternative to the current job
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May 11, 2021 18:46
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had another initial interview this afternoon, 2/2 on getting them to say a number first 
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May 11, 2021 18:56
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amazing what you can achieve when you can say you’re talking to multiple companies and getting a feel for the market
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May 11, 2021 18:56
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jesus WEP posted:it was a very weird interview, like it was only 45 minutes long and we sped through how i like to design software, how i organise teams of devs, what the company expects to do over the next years, what salary expectations would be, and a bunch of questions i had about the role. i have no idea where it goes from here. when i got hired by someone i knew i did the normal process but every conversation was pro forma, basically this: kitten smoothie posted:I had the usual panels but one guy literally said “I normally have this dumb whiteboard problem I gotta give but I saw your conference talk last week so I’m gonna skip that and let’s just casually talk shop for an hour”
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May 11, 2021 18:57
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or is this how interviews go when you know someone
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Cheekio posted:I don't think I'm interested in working for Facebook, but they keep hounding me to interview there and it seems like it would be good practice if not a good alternative to the current job interview p hard, if you get offer from fb get another offer for a non genocide place, use the fb offer to squeeze more money from a place that doesnt help buddhist death squads do the death squad thing
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May 11, 2021 18:57
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when a Facebook recruiter reached out to me I told them to gently caress off then posted the screen cap for internet points
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May 11, 2021 18:59
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Someone ITT told me to tell that that I can't work for them because of my morals and they have sent me 0 emails since. I used to get like weekly ones otherwise.
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May 11, 2021 19:10
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just had an internal recruiter tell me there was a take home I have to finish by Thursday, and they would send it to me Wednesday at 5pm lmao they are on my poo poo list now so I pressed them to ask their dev team how long it typically takes a sr dev to finish because if it's more than two hours I will not be able to do it before the interview
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May 11, 2021 19:40
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*Finished by the start of my interview Thursday... Which is at 130pm so not even 24 hours hahahahah
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May 11, 2021 19:41
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Someone ITT told me to tell that that I can't work for them because of my morals and they have sent me 0 emails since. I used to get like weekly ones otherwise. goddamn it i did that one too and it didnt work
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May 11, 2021 19:43
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Cheekio posted:I've been working for a company for years, and they've grown considerably during that time. As I'm no longer investing new equity, I'd like to "adjust" my salary to be closer to the market rate, which would mean a pretty significant raise. either your company is really badly run and you should leave or your company is really well run and you should leave (because they want you to). if you have no additional options/rsu grants and your salary wasn't already adjusted you need to bring that up immediately if you have any desire to stay where you are
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May 11, 2021 19:47
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KoRMaK posted:just had an internal recruiter tell me there was a take home I have to finish by Thursday, and they would send it to me Wednesday at 5pm Lmao are you just trying to move to another department? I think I may have posted about it itt but when I was looking to transfer departments I went to what was described to me a friendly chat the next day but ended up being a full on google style coding interview.
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May 11, 2021 19:47
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bob dobbs is dead posted:goddamn it i did that one too and it didnt work i just replied to each email with a link to the latest terrible facebook news and eventually stopped getting them
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May 11, 2021 20:59
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KoRMaK posted:just had an internal recruiter tell me there was a take home I have to finish by Thursday, and they would send it to me Wednesday at 5pm
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May 11, 2021 21:19
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started my job with the fedgov yesterday. so far so good edit: canadian
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May 11, 2021 21:22
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Lmao are you just trying to move to another department? so I sussed out what the deal is and it turns out the recruiter loving butchered the message and what I actually need to have is a repo they sent me setup in my env so we can play in it during the interview which is a lot less work and honestly probably going to take only a half hour or something
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May 11, 2021 22:00
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Resume chat from a couple pages back has me worried about the quality of my resume. I moved from the DC area to the Seattle area, and the types of jobs in both areas are significantly different. I don't want to post my resume as it's very easy to identify me from it but are there are some good examples of what my resume should have? there's a resume thread in bfc that's got some good advice for resumes in the op. the two basic key points that have worked for me are basically 1. have a blurb (like 3 sentences ish) at the top that matches some of the key points the ad says they're looking for, as closely as possible without outright lying. if the ad says "5 years experience with java" as its first requirement then your blurb should at the very least have something specifically about your java experience. this is to get past the first screening; most resumes are shitcanned by the time the reader gets to the end of this blurb, and it's common that the first screener isn't technical. 2. pick cool things you did that you can be specific about, and try to describe the value. don't write that you worked on optimizations, write that you root-caused and resolved performance issues, speeding up some critical part of the application by a gazillion percent and saving the company hundreds of thousands of dollars in hosting costs, or whatever. never lie, but don't undersell your individual effort by so much as a penny either. you never "help" or "contribute" to doing something, you either lead a project or you take ownership of a key part of it or whatever.
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May 11, 2021 22:09
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recruiter called and it was an exercise in neither of us saying a number lol still no offer but he's checking with the HM "to see about levels and if they're going to offer"
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May 11, 2021 22:20
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I've literally heard someone in hr veto a candidate because the candidate didn't share what they were currently making. The good news is that hr was restructured top to bottom since then, but yeah it's not unheard of that some companies would rather spite their face than keep their nose.
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May 11, 2021 22:30
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I'll say the obvious thing: the vetoed candidate dodged a bullet
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May 12, 2021 01:20
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Just had my three year review as a junior dev. I used to do split time 50/50 web dev and internal application development. Since pandemic I've shifted 10/90 towards internal app development out of business necessity. Was not promoted to mid level at review but likely will be promoted within a year to mid. Company currently evaluated at 200mil/year and projected to be over 400mil/year by 2025. Department has gone from 8 people when I started to almost 40 as of last week. Currently I develop/maintain/support several VBA applications along with related BE SQL processes. My team of 4 people is now down to just me due to people getting fired, quitting, or leaving the engineering department. I have yet to negotiate my raise after the review. A new developer with several years' experience as a C# dev but no active VBA experience is joining the team within two weeks and I know he was asking 90k salary. He will be assigned to work VBA User Stories and I will be training him/getting him up to speed. I make significantly less than that. Is asking for a 35% raise due to working in a legacy platform and doing it solo an unreasonable ask? The 35% raise would still put me lower than 90k. tbh I have half a mind to just run through a bunch of web dev interview questions for my tech stack and find a better higher paying job and tell them gently caress off, but if I can bide my time to do that with a raise in place that would be beneficial for the next job.
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May 12, 2021 01:52
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get another job and ask for 130k
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May 12, 2021 01:53
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you can negotiate but if you’re hardline about it then you’ll need to be ready for the axe to fall down on you (unless you’re reallly confident in your un-expendability). definitely look for another job no matter what you decide.
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May 12, 2021 02:00
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bob dobbs is dead posted:get another job and ask for 130k
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May 12, 2021 02:10
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bob dobbs is dead posted:get another job and ask for 130k
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May 12, 2021 02:43
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bob dobbs is dead posted:get another job and ask for 130k
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May 12, 2021 03:08
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if you're handling tasks on your own you're not a junior anymorebob dobbs is dead posted:get another job and ask for 130k
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May 12, 2021 03:31
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that poo poo makes me so madbob dobbs is dead posted:get another job and ask for 130k
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May 12, 2021 03:35
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130k total, including stock, is a lowball in figgieland prime, the sfba, to be clear. im assuming youre in some secondary figgieland, ny or austin or some poo poo. if youre not in a figgieland at all then move to one first. if you move to figgielands prime or secondus (seattle) then ask for 130k cash comp and a significant stock comp or the best option, shut the gently caress up and then ask for 150k if they offer you like 120k and ask for 220k if they offer you 180k. 100k is a good floor to go nelson ha-ha at and walk away at i got paid, annualized, 80k for my internship in figgieland prime back in undergrad bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 06:21 on May 12, 2021 |
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May 12, 2021 03:40
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