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Some Guy TT posted:you might be in the wrong subforum friend oh i know i just don't want to see someone die out of stupidity
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May 10, 2021 14:44
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:i just don't want to see someone die than maybe you want less american carrier groups in the world?
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May 10, 2021 14:48
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https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/05/10/21/philippines-receives-193050-doses-of-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine The Philippines just received its first allocation of Pfizer vaccines - 193,050 doses These were acquired through the COVAX initiative
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May 10, 2021 15:02
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Rutibex posted:than maybe you want less american carrier groups in the world? i would like america to not instigate any war not participate in one that doesn't have a good rasin debt
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May 10, 2021 15:40
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and yes bail on the military prison industrial complex entirely that'll be any day now due to our fierce and independent thinking leadership
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May 10, 2021 15:41
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https://twitter.com/ComradeLin_/status/1391718205689798659
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May 10, 2021 21:19
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that karl marx unboxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Vfn8KbDnI&t=1393s
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May 10, 2021 21:26
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:didn't the falkland islands kind of prove having a big fat fleet was not always a good idea? It proved they are vulnerable at least which is why there has been an escalating arms race to build faster anti-ship missiles/better CIWS systems. Both Russia and China have hypersonic missiles that maybe able to penetrate US defenses. It is why a war with either of them, besides the nuclear competent, would be pretty ugly. As far as drones, I do think they will change warfare but at the same time, they are perhaps hyped a bit much. I would say the biggest problem they would give would be to non-state actors (which already has been happening for over a decade at this point) and to more poorly armed states such as Armenia, that simply doesn't have the resources to design countermeasures. In the case of Armenia it was a case of both a lack of funding and just a complete lack of leadership. I am less convinced that larger powers won't be able to design cost effective counter-measures (remember these drones are going pretty slow/have a limited range compared to something like a hypersonic missile.)
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May 10, 2021 21:29
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Ardennes posted:I am less convinced that larger powers won't be able to design cost effective counter-measures (remember these drones are going pretty slow/have a limited range compared to something like a hypersonic missile.) Cheap drones aren't fast and naval actions occur over hundreds of miles of open sea. A CBG can probably avoid a drone swarm by just leisurely steaming away from it.
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May 10, 2021 21:35
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Maintaining a safe distance from shore-assets also constrains the striking power of the carrier airgroup though. Even if F-35s got the range, longer missions mean lower sortie rates.
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May 10, 2021 21:41
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Ardennes posted:I would say the biggest problem they would give would be to non-state actors (which already has been happening for over a decade at this point) i'm actually surprised we haven't seen more assassination attempts than just a couple
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May 10, 2021 21:46
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Small and mid sized drones are very cheap replacement of attack helicopters. We are not talking about high level competition between great powers. We are not there yet. Also the current anti air artilleries are not design against small drones. There is drone warfare between UAE brought Chinese UAV and Turkish drones recently in Syria? Right now the state of drone air to air warfare is like pre WW1 primitive level. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 21:56 on May 10, 2021 |
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May 10, 2021 21:53
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tractor fanatic posted:Cheap drones aren't fast and naval actions occur over hundreds of miles of open sea. A CBG can probably avoid a drone swarm by just leisurely steaming away from it. Wraith of J.O.I. posted:https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1384917404795523078
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May 10, 2021 21:57
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lmao  Amazing.
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May 10, 2021 22:31
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mila kunis posted:are there any thoughts on i think radio war nerd talked about this briefly on chapo. i imagine it actually would have the opposite effect, insurgencies with a cheap way of loving up infrastructure on a new level makes them way more of a threat.
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May 11, 2021 03:11
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:didn't the falkland islands kind of prove having a big fat fleet was not always a good idea? the british navy at the falklands was nowhere near what an american carrier group is packing like, the us navy has known for decades that the soviet plan was to swamp a carrier group with a shitload of missiles. "i'm gonna just throw a shitload of cheap missiles" is playing the game exactly the way they've planned for. Rutibex posted:day 1 of Real War every single american aircraft carrier group is getting a nuclear torpedo yeah sure if you start slinging nuclear weapons around any military formation is going to eat poo poo. but now that means the americans are going to feel free to retaliate in kind.
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May 11, 2021 03:20
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crepeface posted:i think radio war nerd talked about this briefly on chapo. he actually talks about this in one of his older articles: https://pando.com/2014/02/13/the-war-nerd-googles-big-new-dog/ At least for bigger powers he seems to think the opposite, that cheap, ubiquitous drones will neuter insurgencies
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May 11, 2021 03:21
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Flavahbeast posted:he actually talks about this in one of his older articles: https://pando.com/2014/02/13/the-war-nerd-googles-big-new-dog/ that seems to be more focused on boston dynamics type robots as an occupying force. not sure it fully applies to drones. here's that bit on his appearance on chapo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZmLgB5cWdc&t=957s
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May 11, 2021 03:58
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mila kunis posted:make an auspol thread in cspam instead? gently caress d&d i just made a c-spam auspol thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3967382 crepeface has issued a correction as of 04:24 on May 11, 2021 |
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May 11, 2021 04:09
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the british navy at the falklands was nowhere near what an american carrier group is packing you do know this has been proven to be pretty effective at taking out carrier groups right? there was a pretty infamous war game that proved it they literally had to have a do over cause carrier groups are amazingly dumb useless garbage against low cost swarm tactics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 quote:After the war game was restarted, its participants were forced to follow a script drafted to ensure a Blue Force victory. Among other rules imposed by this script, Red Force was ordered to turn on their anti-aircraft radar in order for them to be destroyed, and was not allowed to shoot down any of the aircraft bringing Blue Force troops ashore. Agrajag has issued a correction as of 04:12 on May 11, 2021 |
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May 11, 2021 04:09
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Millennium Challenge is the Jordan Peterson of Clancychat.
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May 11, 2021 04:23
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Missiles is the only game anyone wants to play. That's why China launches them into the South China Sea and that's the new US Navy's great new idea is to put a bunch of batteries all over the first island chain.
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May 11, 2021 04:25
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Agrajag posted:you do know this has been proven to be pretty effective at taking out carrier groups right? the general who pulled it off relied on some pretty unrealistic assumptions even without that the persian gulf is a relatively confined area to operate in compared to most other oceans
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May 11, 2021 05:06
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https://mobile.twitter.com/dlshadothman/status/1391201706332020736 this communism thing ive been hearing about just keeps sounding better and better
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May 11, 2021 06:34
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Rahm's the ambassador to Japan lmao
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May 11, 2021 09:19
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So I kind of want to give some support to the people of India fighting Covid, particularly the left leading local governments like Kerala. Does any South Asia goon know anyway to donate through paypal/Amazon/US credit cards?
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May 11, 2021 16:15
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i don't know if the Naxalites take paypal donations
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May 11, 2021 16:28
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the general who pulled it off relied on some pretty unrealistic assumptions Examples? I’ve read the same opinion in D&D but haven’t seen anything to back it up.
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May 11, 2021 19:01
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https://twitter.com/cgtnamerica/status/1391847789441728516
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May 11, 2021 19:14
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eh he relied on some unrealistic models of couriers and stuff, but nothing really on the scale of the Blue Team fuckery. It was an all around crappy simulation but alot of the weaknesses exposed were pretty real and Blue Team did just go whining to mods to have them ignored so America could win.
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May 11, 2021 19:14
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mawarannahr posted:Examples? I’ve read the same opinion in D&D but haven’t seen anything to back it up. He thought sunk carriers can't refloat op. Though frankly more than any particular weakness of that exercise I'd note that it was a long rear end time ago. Maybe among all the grift someone figured something out.
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May 11, 2021 19:46
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stephenthinkpad posted:So I kind of want to give some support to the people of India fighting Covid, particularly the left leading local governments like Kerala. Does any South Asia goon know anyway to donate through paypal/Amazon/US credit cards? Actually this official site work. I wasn't sure why it ask for my phone and email because if this is a Chinese payment option it would verify my tel number first. But no, it didn't send anything to my phone/email, just let me straight up use my US credit card as an international credit card. I use a travel card to avoid foreign transaction fee.
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May 11, 2021 21:47
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stephenthinkpad posted:Also the current anti air artilleries are not design against small drones. yeah I wonder what the strategy is to defend against an attack of like 750+ cheapo drones with staggered arrival times each with a shaped charge and a proximity detonator
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May 11, 2021 23:17
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indigi posted:yeah I wonder what the strategy is to defend against an attack of like 750+ cheapo drones with staggered arrival times each with a shaped charge and a proximity detonator a big net?
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May 12, 2021 00:23
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they will have net avoidance software
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May 12, 2021 00:25
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/26/europe/uk-aircraft-carrier-strike-group-asia-intl-hnk-scli-ml/index.html Since no one's mentioned it: The United Kingdom will be sailing a large naval armada though the South China Sea. The aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth with two destroyers, two anti-submarine frigates, one submarine and two auxiliary supply ships as escort en route to Japan and South Korea.
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May 12, 2021 00:32
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gradenko_2000 posted:Tacoma wept that's untreated gonorrhoea
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May 12, 2021 00:38
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Basically all naval groups are longing to be sank by cheap anti ship missiles. And when it happens the MIC boys will all be agog muh muh doctrine
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May 12, 2021 00:38
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Would be a better show of force if it would have functioning planes as well but you gotta play the hand you're dealt
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May 12, 2021 00:39
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indigi posted:yeah I wonder what the strategy is to defend against an attack of like 750+ cheapo drones with staggered arrival times each with a shaped charge and a proximity detonator IIRC, electronic warfare first to degrade command and control (something as simple as forcing drones to fly home is a success, and cheapness ultimately means having to cut down on quality); dropping ordinance on the local operators via artillery or your own airpower (again cheapness means accepting lesser capabilities such as the distance from which drones can be operated); and finally actually shooting down the drones with air defense. The preferred type of weaponry will probably be lasers and autocannons because unlike missiles these weapon systems have a bigger pool of ready ammunition compared to missiles. Of course it's only as good as its sensors so it's no silver bullet and people are going to be using whatever they have on hand or taking cover instead.
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May 12, 2021 00:47
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