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Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


Step 1: Start fight
Step 2: Attack straw man
Step 3: REPEAT

Do not engage with me



General Dog posted:

You know what, I bet the league would be happy to give him an out on that note.

(It’s going to be a moot point though, one way or another)

All he'll say is his lawyers say he can't talk about an ongoing case. It'll be a moot point

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/ESPNUpstate/status/1392240563731247110

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Weeeeeelp

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

It’s just a local sports guy talking about this Eisen segment.

https://twitter.com/RichEisenShow/status/1391803957341683712?s=20

It’s speculation...at best it’s informed speculation.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl/status/1392258103794487301?s=21

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

The NFL can't just let him play after basically settling all these cases which is admitting horrible wrongdoing.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Well that was fast. Glad to hear it.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

mcmagic posted:

The NFL can't just let him play after basically settling all these cases which is admitting horrible wrongdoing.

lol

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

mcmagic posted:

The NFL can't just let him play after basically settling all these cases which is admitting horrible wrongdoing.

They’d vote him Comeback Player of the Year.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I really doubt Watson has the pockets to settle with all of em AND pay his legal fees.



Just seems like the number for such a thing would be way too high.

fast cars loose anus
Mar 2, 2007

Pillbug

mcmagic posted:

The NFL can't just let him play after basically settling all these cases which is admitting horrible wrongdoing.

lol yes they can

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

fartknocker posted:

They’d vote him Comeback Player of the Year.
He got it all back. That's the point.

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

The future is
AUTOMATED
and you are
OBSOLETE

Illegal Hen

fartknocker posted:

They’d vote him Comeback Player of the Year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82abEwuWl38

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

Shinjobi posted:

I really doubt Watson has the pockets to settle with all of em AND pay his legal fees.



Just seems like the number for such a thing would be way too high.

Their attorney will have a good idea of what he can reasonably afford but considering at this point how many times they’ve hammered home how it’s not about money.... I’d have to see the women say they’ve settled before I’d believe it tbh

Parallelwoody
Apr 10, 2008


IANAL but don't settlements usually have no admission of wrong doing and a gag order on the people paid? If that's the case then the NFL won't have to say anything as the matter was settled without an admission if guilt.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Parallelwoody posted:

IANAL but don't settlements usually have no admission of wrong doing and a gag order on the people paid? If that's the case then the NFL won't have to say anything as the matter was settled without an admission if guilt.

What was Kobe required to do?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Parallelwoody posted:

IANAL but don't settlements usually have no admission of wrong doing and a gag order on the people paid?

Usually they do, but in the meantime supposedly the NFL is doing it's own investigation and interviewing these women *before* any kind of settlement has been reached.

Goodell has never needed much evidence to throw the book at a player when it suits him - which isn't very often. However the seriousness of these charges may lead the NFL to tread extremely lightly around this. I'm sure they'd rather this whole thing disappeared.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
If he settles I imagine NFL still finds reason to suspend him for a year; Texans quietly release him before he ever takes the field again, and he maybe spends another year or two in free agency before a team finally signs him and hope nobody gets too mad.

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

What was Kobe required to do?

Buy his wife a really big ring then have a bunch of daughters and then he switched his jersey number, so really #8 is the rapist.


e: He also publicly apologized and admitted she didn't consent. Somehow I do not see Watson doing that.

3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 15:20 on May 12, 2021

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

Usually they do, but in the meantime supposedly the NFL is doing it's own investigation and interviewing these women *before* any kind of settlement has been reached.

Goodell has never needed much evidence to throw the book at a player when it suits him - which isn't very often. However the seriousness of these charges may lead the NFL to tread extremely lightly around this. I'm sure they'd rather this whole thing disappeared.

Hadn't the NFL seen the elevator tape before it was made public but was still only giving Ray Rice a slap on the wrist?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Mr. Nice! posted:

Hadn't the NFL seen the elevator tape before it was made public but was still only giving Ray Rice a slap on the wrist?

The NFL and Goodell's story that they've repeatedly stuck to is that they only saw the exterior tape - of Rice dragging his unconscious fiancé out of the elevator - at the time of his initial two game suspension. They said they tried to get the tape from inside the elevator and could not.

quote:

"We had not seen any videotape of what occurred in the elevator,” Goodell told CBS's Norah O'Donnell. “We assumed that there was a video. We asked for anything that's pertinent. But we were never granted that opportunity.

“I don’t know how TMZ or anyone gets their information. We rely on law enforcement."

It's not a very good story.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Yeah, then it came out that the hotel security had mailed the tape of the entire encounter to the NFL, but they had mysteriously misplaced it. A little whoopsie.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
Also the Ravens knew the video existed and that Rice and his lawyer had a copy but they did not ask for it.

Both the NFL and Ravens very much wished for it to go away.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret
Don’t forget the whole “apologizes for her role” tweet.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

Kalli posted:

Yeah, then it came out that the hotel security had mailed the tape of the entire encounter to the NFL, but they had mysteriously misplaced it. A little whoopsie.

Was this a fever dream of mine, or did the NFL hire Robert Mueller to conclude, "yep, tape was misplaced. Story checks out"?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
Yes.

quote:

On Jan. 8, 2015, Mueller released a report saying that his investigation "found no proof anyone at the league office received or viewed a video of Rice punching out his then-fiancée at an Atlantic City Casino until the footage became public."

The report said Mueller and his team analyzed 51 computers, 42 tablet and mobile devices and two external storage devices, including those of Goodell, senior vice president of security Jeffrey Miller, NFL general counsel Jeff Pash and senior vice president of law and labor policy Adolpho Birch. The investigation "imaged" the devices to determine whether the original file of the in-elevator video ever reached the league offices before it was publicly released, but found no evidence of that.

"We found no evidence that anyone at the NFL had or saw the in-elevator video before it was publicly shown," Mueller said in a media release. "We also found no evidence that a woman at the NFL acknowledged receipt of that video in a voicemail message on April 9, 2014.

"We concluded there was substantial information about the incident — even without the in-elevator video — indicating the need for a more thorough investigation. The NFL should have done more with the information it had, and should have taken additional steps to obtain all available information about the February 15 incident."

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
Investigative genius, that guy

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

Shinjobi posted:

I really doubt Watson has the pockets to settle with all of em AND pay his legal fees.



Just seems like the number for such a thing would be way too high.

Pretty sure the multimillionaire with gas left in the tank will be able to secure a loan

mcmagic posted:

The NFL can't just let him play after basically settling all these cases which is admitting horrible wrongdoing.

I'm sure the NDA and settlement agreement will marginalize or outright eliminate any admission of criminal acts

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you
NDAs dont really mean poo poo anymore

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

Robert Mueller was recently hired to try and determine if the sky is blue and found no conclusive evidence.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Nodoze posted:

NDAs dont really mean poo poo anymore

I'm sure they'd structure the payments in such a way that the victims wouldn't get the full amount if they talk poo poo within a few years. he'd just need to buy enough time to get another extension

edited to reflect the hypothetical nature of the settlements

indigi fucked around with this message at 19:46 on May 12, 2021

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

really queer Christmas posted:

Robert Mueller was recently hired to try and determine if the sky is blue and found no conclusive evidence.

I want a Bob Mueller, PI book series with him just being the most incompetent, self-important boob

King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

GD_American posted:

I want a Bob Mueller, PI book series with him just being the most incompetent, self-important boob

We were unable to make a determination regarding the veracity of Miss O'Shaughnessy’s statement. We found no conclusive evidence that a foot-high jeweled bird was sent to Charles, who was then in Spain nor were we able to determine the material of which the bird held in evidence was made.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



GD_American posted:

I want a Bob Mueller, PI book series with him just being the most incompetent, self-important boob

Thinking about the book the douche from the Good Place wrote: Six Feet Under Par, a Chip Driver murder mystery.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Kalli posted:

Thinking about the book the douche from the Good Place wrote: Six Feet Under Par, a Chip Driver murder mystery.

But he solved the mystery by page 10!

Nodoze
Aug 17, 2006

If it's only for a night I can live without you

GD_American posted:

I want a Bob Mueller, PI book series with him just being the most incompetent, self-important boob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-uRn4-ZwfM

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

Kalli posted:

Thinking about the book the douche from the Good Place wrote: Six Feet Under Par, a Chip Driver murder mystery.

FOX NEWS ALERT- DID PINKO FORMER FBI HEAD HAVE TORRID AFFAIR WITH SOCIALITE SCARLETT PAKISTAN

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k

Grip it and rip it posted:

Pretty sure the multimillionaire with gas left in the tank will be able to secure a loan


I hadn't even considered that, fair

syzpid
Aug 9, 2014
NFL Investigators have spoken with 4 of the plaintiffs, for what it's worth.

Hardin claims Buzbee has approached him multiple times, but they pretty much refuse to talk about a settlement. I don't know much about law, but I feel like Buzbee and Hardin are among the worst and are in an amazing slapfight.

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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Buzbee claims that more of his clients want to cooperate with the NFL but they are concerned that the NFL is not treating this seriously which when looking at what happened to Ray Rice is pretty easy to believe.

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