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mandatory lesbian posted:whoeber wrote battle network should be talked about the same way people talk about uh...the nueromancer dude whose name i have ironically forgotten William Gibson
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Harrow posted:Tempted to change the thread title to RPG Thread: Contrary to popular belief, dying is NOT cool Wasn't that the thread title already at some point It was the title of some thread, I think
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May 13, 2021 02:59
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cheetah7071 posted:Wasn't that the thread title already at some point Not of this one, as far as I can tell, but it's a pro thread title so I can believe it was used somewhere. Maybe the Megaten thread?
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May 13, 2021 03:18
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The Colonel posted:i like that the plot of smt nine starts out as "after the world got nuked in smt1, all of society moved to living in vr" and ends as "10 years later, all of humanity went extinct and the virtual world preserved their identities and memories as the gods of law made plans to direct the newly recreted humans into living in the real world, and you must decide whether it's better to live under our god that tells us the best way to rebuild or find a way to rebuild ourselves" is there finally a plot summary for nine??  that sounds real wild!oh yea aren't there people still around post-time skip in smt1 and by smt2? did they decide vr sucks and we don't need gods to rebuild (except the Law people)
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May 13, 2021 03:28
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There's apparently an existing script translation for the neutral route (whatever that means for NINE), but they're probably referencing a video breakdown an SMT youtuber recently did.
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May 13, 2021 03:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xagrqmJAfUM This is the video they're talking about. It's pretty decent.
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May 13, 2021 03:56
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Clarste posted:I know there's also been some backlash about the use of Wendigos as a generic fantasy monster divorced from all its original context. I assume Hindu gods receive similar complaints sometimes.
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May 13, 2021 03:58
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Zore posted:poo poo, MMBN practically counts as speculative fiction considering how it correctly predicted we would eventually connect everything to the internet and how terrible an idea that would be and how you could do terrorism with it. 
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May 13, 2021 04:09
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   go play Deus Ex if you don't recognize these quotes, goofus
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May 13, 2021 04:31
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Harrow posted:Tempted to change the thread title to RPG Thread: Contrary to popular belief, dying is NOT cool Way to poo poo on Planescape Torment.
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May 13, 2021 04:32
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Ibram Gaunt posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xagrqmJAfUM yeah this is the vid i watched. cool vid. it's why i wanna play a non-persona smt lol
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May 13, 2021 05:04
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The Colonel posted:yeah this is the vid i watched. cool vid. it's why i wanna play a non-persona smt lol Radiou Kuzunoha or Digital Devil Saga. I have an intense soft spot for Raidou 1 and 2 but hooo boy 1 has some rudeness with bosses at the end
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May 13, 2021 05:18
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its ok i beat drakengard 1 without cheats i think i can survive all action rpg rudeness from here on out
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May 13, 2021 05:31
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raidou 1's gameplay is rough but raidou 2's is cute and features one of the better "hit an enemy's weak point for a bonus" mechanics in smt+ franchise (it also features basically every map from raidou 1, we love sustainability!)
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May 13, 2021 05:33
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i loved most aspects of raidou but they never seemed to give you enough money to use the compendium.
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May 13, 2021 05:47
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Ibram Gaunt posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xagrqmJAfUM That guy's voice is kinda grating but his videos are pretty cool. I liked the IF and Devil Summoner ones too.
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May 13, 2021 05:51
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Everyone should try SMT1 at least, it's got one of the coolest atmospheres in an RPG, and one that you really have to play to experince. Slowly watching you go from a relatively normal life getting coffee for your mom to watching the entire world go to poo poo and get wiped out multiple times.
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May 13, 2021 14:40
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Playing Nier: Automata and it's good, but I'm a bit confused. Right now I've got a light sword and a heavy sword, and the heavy sword says it has higher attack power, but the light one seems to do more damage? Like I'll press square for light attack and hit for 140, and then triangle for heavy will hit for like 50  The light one obviously can also hit a bunch of times in a row quickly, whereas the heavy one is slow as gently caress In general it's pretty hard to work out what my strongest option is right now. I've also got a spear that I found and bare fists and everything seems to work fine, plus there's so much going on when fighting that it's hard to keep track of damage numbers
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May 13, 2021 15:11
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I could be misremembering but stats are not comparable between weapon types. Remember to upgrade the weapons you are using or they deal pitiful damage.
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May 13, 2021 15:31
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Paperhouse posted:Playing Nier: Automata and it's good, but I'm a bit confused. Right now I've got a light sword and a heavy sword, and the heavy sword says it has higher attack power, but the light one seems to do more damage? Like I'll press square for light attack and hit for 140, and then triangle for heavy will hit for like 50 Just use whatever is working for you or is fun. Nier A is not a difficult game. Later on you get even more options to later to make it even easier.
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May 13, 2021 16:38
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Ethiser posted:I love how one of the conceits of Battle Network is that Doctor Light deciding to work on the internet instead of making robots keeps the world from having to undergo multiple apocalypses and complete ecological disaster. Dr. Wiley even finds redemption. So is MMBM an alternate timeline from MM/MMX? Because there's really no redemption to creating the Sigma Virus.
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May 13, 2021 17:03
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mmbn's premise is that dr. light decided against all of wily's robot research and developed the internet instead, and wily got really mad and decided to blow the internet up. no people end up dying in mmbn and bn6 ends with him saying "hm. you know what. maybe my desire to blow up the internet was a bad thing." and he builds the world's strongest antivirus ever the funniest part of bn as a series is that bn4 and 5 introduce, one of wily's kids, who is even eviler than wily. and then bn6 explains that the reason wily became evil was because of The War
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May 13, 2021 17:07
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i hope someone finds a way to dump and translate the mmbn phone games where the plot is that a guy came forward in time from the past carrying an ancient trojan that destroyed all of an ancient society, and a sheriff named sherrice also came with him from the ancient society, and now the trojan is loving up the internet, and the game eventually ends with you fighting the trojan which is literally personified as a giant electric horse, and one of the time travelers goes back in time while sherrice is stuck in the present so she just gets a desk job in the city and nobody ever mentions her existence again
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May 13, 2021 17:12
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Megaman in MMBN is also Dr. Light's biological grandson who had a terminal disease as an infant and was digitized by his father and became a computer program. Years later he was given to his living twin brother as a sort of digital avatar and they're who you play as. Battle Network has all sorts of great insane poo poo. Like high levels of radiation can make the internet real.
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May 13, 2021 17:13
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shoutout to how bn3 ends with mega man literally dying, like he gets stuck in an exploding computer and is unable to escape so he sacrifices himself to save lan, and the entire ending sequence implies that he might really have just died and become impossible to rescue and they don't give a clear answer even in the epilogue, and then in battle network 4 he's just back again and nobody really comments on it that deeply and they only explain how he possesses the same soul even though he was technically just pieced back together with scraps of data in new game++ postgame content in a game you need to play through three times to access it
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May 13, 2021 17:19
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The Colonel posted:shoutout to how bn3 ends with mega man literally dying, like he gets stuck in an exploding computer and is unable to escape so he sacrifices himself to save lan, and the entire ending sequence implies that he might really have just died and become impossible to rescue and they don't give a clear answer even in the epilogue, and then in battle network 4 he's just back again and nobody really comments on it that deeply and they only explain how he possesses the same soul even though he was technically just pieced back together with scraps of data in new game++ postgame content in a game you need to play through three times to access it MMBN4 was a poorly thought out game in many respects though iirc, so that parts hardly a surprise.
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May 13, 2021 17:35
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I mean, MMBN3 does end pretty definitively with "Wow we managed to save Megaman! He's back!" He dies for like, all of 5 minutes before they have a scene that's like "We found this data in the remnants of Alpha" "Wait, could that be...?" and then the next scene is Lan getting Megaman back It might be kinda asspully but he definitely does survive MMBN3
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May 13, 2021 17:42
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The Colonel posted:i hope someone finds a way to dump and translate the mmbn phone games where the plot is that a guy came forward in time from the past carrying an ancient trojan that destroyed all of an ancient society, and a sheriff named sherrice also came with him from the ancient society, and now the trojan is loving up the internet, and the game eventually ends with you fighting the trojan which is literally personified as a giant electric horse, and one of the time travelers goes back in time while sherrice is stuck in the present so she just gets a desk job in the city and nobody ever mentions her existence again Someone seems to be working on dumping it at least http://www.rockman-corner.com/2021/01/we-have-secured-rockman-exe-phantom-of.htm Although this is from January and there have been no updates since.
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May 13, 2021 18:14
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Gaius Marius posted:Everyone should try SMT1 at least, it's got one of the coolest atmospheres in an RPG, and one that you really have to play to experince. It is really amazing in the atmosphere department but goddamn is the gamplay a slog. I've tried 2-3 times to get through that game and have faded every time.
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May 13, 2021 18:17
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May 13, 2021 18:27
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I would replay the MMBN games if they got another translation pass
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May 13, 2021 18:29
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all of the battle network translation issues are forgiven just for the bit in bn2 where they go Bass: You can't possibly defeat me. Battle is my forte! Megaman: We'll see about that! Let's rock, Lan!
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May 13, 2021 18:36
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remember the minor plot point from Persona 5 where Mishima gets sick because he drinks the water in Hawaii
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May 13, 2021 18:36
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Endorph posted:all of the battle network translation issues are forgiven just for the bit in bn2 where they go that in particular is cute, but even as a boy emulating the games, I remember a lot of typos and grammar mistakes that would probably drive me nuts now
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May 13, 2021 18:37
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grieving for Gandalf posted:that in particular is cute, but even as a boy emulating the games, I remember a lot of typos and grammar mistakes that would probably drive me nuts now the games were cranked out on like na 8 month schedule so yeah the translations absolutely kept slipping in quality consistently. 4's especially is incredibly dire. for instance, they never use the singular 'virus,' only 'viruses.' I'll teach you about viruses busting, etc. It's bizarre.
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May 13, 2021 18:39
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Endorph posted:the games were cranked out on like na 8 month schedule so yeah the translations absolutely kept slipping in quality consistently. 4's especially is incredibly dire. for instance, they never use the singular 'virus,' only 'viruses.' I'll teach you about viruses busting, etc. It's bizarre. Ctrl-F in the Japanese script for the kanji for "Virus". Replace with "Viruses". Done, that's a couple thousand words translated already!
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May 13, 2021 18:47
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i like that the entire villain organization of bn2 is meant to be a reference to treble, because treble's name in japan is gospel, but treble is a way lamer name for an evil villain organization and there's tons of sprites displaying their icon that would be a pain to edit so they just left it as gospel in the us release and the whole connection is lost and it's a lot more confusing why the final boss is a big robot dog
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May 13, 2021 19:01
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The Colonel posted:i like that the entire villain organization of bn2 is meant to be a reference to treble, because treble's name in japan is gospel, but treble is a way lamer name for an evil villain organization and there's tons of sprites displaying their icon that would be a pain to edit so they just left it as gospel in the us release and the whole connection is lost and it's a lot more confusing why the final boss is a big robot dog They also decided against changing Hikari to Light which feels weird considering almost every other recurring character gets their US release names. Maybe they though the alliterative name of 'Lan Light' sucked idk
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May 13, 2021 20:06
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Endorph posted:all of the battle network translation issues are forgiven just for the bit in bn2 where they go The line in the epilogue where Mayl says "speaking of chow, where's Chaud?" still inspires me to this day. BN4 had some really dire translations, but 2's was legendary and I won't hear a word against it.
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Were the swears in 2 a translation thing? Not that I have a problem with it, it's just weird that 2 is the only game in the series where the characters say drat and crap.
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