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The IDF caught 64 dead and hundreds wounded when they tried invading in 2014 because there's just no good way to do urban fighting.
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crepeface posted:celebrities will never stop chiming in with their dumb opinions when it would be so easy not to say anything is comforting in a way. It's just old hat to see liberals and moralists cry over violence on both sides when they live in the world's greatest purveyor of violence.
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May 13, 2021 07:17
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The IDF caught 64 dead and hundreds wounded when they tried invading in 2014 because there's just no good way to do urban fighting. Assad figured it out, tanks and all
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May 13, 2021 07:24
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does anyone have that picture/tweet that listed the death/injuries on both sides and most of israel's was "mental trauma"?
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May 13, 2021 07:25
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paul_soccer12 posted:Assad figured it out, tanks and all They had plenty of practice whereas the IDF only has practice being upgunned cops.
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May 13, 2021 07:26
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crepeface posted:doesn't anyone have that picture/tweet that listened the death/injuries on both sides and most of israel's was "mental trauma"? wow didn't know the author of the Black Book of Communism was in charge of tracking idf casualties
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May 13, 2021 07:27
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The biggest problem I'd expect for Hamas is that Israel has been a leading developer in suicide drones, and the new Nagorno-Karabakh war proved definitively that there's no good defense as of now against them, even if you're a dug in modern army. Hamas is going to have to rely on their tunnel network even more than ever before.
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May 13, 2021 07:30
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this might be what you were looking for crep
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May 13, 2021 07:32
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Nonsense posted:they changed the word ground invasion to ground operations. the tweet is back up and the IDF will move soon. I'll believe it when I see it. History has shown me that only the most awful, while still banal, option will win out at the end of the day. https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1392717316635471876 Here's the new tweet.
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May 13, 2021 07:34
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Tiler Kiwi posted:this might be what you were looking for crep that's it, thanks!
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May 13, 2021 07:36
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crepeface posted:does anyone have that picture/tweet that listed the death/injuries on both sides and most of israel's was "mental trauma"? Here's the talk page about how they decided to just include anxiety in the figures with no note lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2021_Israel%E2%80%93Palestine_crisis#Israeli_casualties
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May 13, 2021 07:36
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let's come up with good operation names for the IDF Operation Temple Defender Operation Defensive Measure Operation Broken Glass
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May 13, 2021 07:38
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Operation Solomon's Child
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Operation Flayed Foreskin
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May 13, 2021 07:40
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The IDF caught 64 dead and hundreds wounded when they tried invading in 2014 because there's just no good way to do urban fighting. What does Palestine even have to resist an invasion?
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May 13, 2021 07:40
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:let's come up with good operation names for the IDF i think they already chose something dumb like walls of the guardians
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May 13, 2021 07:42
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Don't get why they would send in ground forces when they could just indiscriminately bomb from their fighter jets. I'm just going to take a wild guess that the world's next wartime nuclear explosion will be from Israel. Honestly the world would be a much safer place with Iran having a nuke.
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May 13, 2021 07:42
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Operation Peace and Understanding
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Operation Palestinian Genocide
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the airstrikes were called Operation Leavened Dead
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May 13, 2021 07:45
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Reality Protester posted:Operation Palestinian Genocide Lmfao
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May 13, 2021 07:45
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CODChimera posted:What does Palestine even have to resist an invasion? Same thing they had last time. Small arms, RPGs, a few ATGMs, mortars, grenades, mines. Doesn't sound like much but you can do a lot with the kind of tunnel network that they have under Gaza. The k/d ratio is obviously going to be heavily in the IDF's favor, but Israelis are also cowards because blood and soil nationalism makes them psychologically "aware" of any kind of demographic decline. So fatalities to the Israelis hurt them a lot more than it does to Palestinians, who just have to accept a higher bodycount as the weaker party in an asymmetric war. In 2014 the IDF had to withdraw because the invasion wasn't going as smoothly for them as they would've liked it to. Same thing happened during the 2006 invasion of Lebanon. Israelis want to do whatever they want but never have to pay a price for it, and that's not a winning mindset.
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Reality Protester posted:Operation Palestinian Genocide That one got me good
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Real hurthling! posted:i think they already chose something dumb like walls of the guardians It's literally Operation Guardian of the Walls. You know. Like Game of Thrones?
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May 13, 2021 07:47
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's literally Operation Guardian of the Walls. Operation Slam the Back Walls
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May 13, 2021 07:48
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's literally Operation Guardian of the Walls. liberals are already calling it a disappointment
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May 13, 2021 07:49
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Same thing they had last time. Small arms, RPGs, a few ATGMs, mortars, grenades, mines. Doesn't sound like much but you can do a lot with the kind of tunnel network that they have under Gaza. The k/d ratio is obviously going to be heavily in the IDF's favor, but Israelis are also cowards because blood and soil nationalism makes them psychologically "aware" of any kind of demographic decline. So fatalities to the Israelis hurt them a lot more than it does to Palestinians, who just have to accept a higher bodycount as the weaker party in an asymmetric war. In 2014 the IDF had to withdraw because the invasion wasn't going as smoothly for them as they would've liked it to. Same thing happened during the 2006 invasion of Lebanon. They also have a reversal of the usual mentality that civilian deaths are tragic whereas troop deaths are more understandable They absolutely freak when a soldier is killed compared to a civvy
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paul_soccer12 posted:Operation Stop Hitting Yourself
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Chuka Umana posted:Don't get why they would send in ground forces when they could just indiscriminately bomb from their fighter jets. They can't just bomb Gaza and call it a day because all of Hamas's most important assets are underground. There's also a limited amount of bunker buster bombs they can use, and no good way to know where to even drop them. So at some point if they want to declare a "victory" against Hamas, they have to send soldiers into those tunnels.
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May 13, 2021 07:51
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I think the Iraqi insurgency showed what you could do with a small amount weapons and a hell of a lot of conviction.
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Imagining your average IDF air conditioner jockey being asked to go into a guerrilla tunnel and having a good chuckle
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paul_soccer12 posted:They also have a reversal of the usual mentality that civilian deaths are tragic whereas troop deaths are more understandable I kind of get the logic here, because civilians getting killed is a "matter of course" for any war, but the IDF has built up a public image of invulnerability. So when an IDF service member gets killed it makes the prospect of conscription way less appealing.
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paul_soccer12 posted:They absolutely freak when a soldier is killed compared to a civvy Their soldiers are cops and their cops are soldiers.
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paul_soccer12 posted:Imagining your average IDF air conditioner jockey being asked to go into a guerrilla tunnel and having a good chuckle Yea there's gonna be a sharp learning curve from killing Palestinian teenagers to killing Hamas soldiers.
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Also, since we're talking about 2014 and Israeli casualties - about a month ago a 26 year old veteran of 2014 self-immolated to protest the lovely state of Israel's veterans benefits program. https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-vet-with-ptsd-warned-he-may-hurt-himself-before-self-immolation-report/ quote:The IDF Veteran’s Association has said that Saidyan was frustrated over his treatment by authorities. He was recognized by the Defense Ministry as having 25 percent disability from his post-traumatic stress disorder, but had requested 50% recognition. The ministry had refused, saying at least a portion of his condition was due to childhood trauma, not his military service. So this guy saw a bunch of his comrades get iced in an operation that was supposed to be a slam dunk, and then when he tries to collect benefits from the country he nearly died for they haggle over the scale of his PTSD.
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