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GhostofJohnMuir posted:i had really hoped that the unwarranted panic over toilet paper and meat last year would have taught folks a lesson, but apparently people are going to do this poo poo every time I mean it did teach a lesson, it’s just that the lesson was that you should get in on the hoarding early or else it’s actually possible that there won’t be any toilet paper/meat/gas to buy when you go to get it.
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May 13, 2021 18:10
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https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1392887133476638721 That's gonna be a big deal
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May 13, 2021 18:21
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Bel Shazar posted:I have not been in the same suburbs as you... I see a lot of bandwagoning and basking in reflected glory in those folks. I’m sure there are vast regional differences but the suburbs around Texas cities seem to have a loooooot of blue lives matter, maga, and nra banners. While I was in Denver last week my suburban Portland neighbors put a petition* in front of their house to have a rally "to protect our Freedom" and my wife caught & confronted a boomer chud** stealing Democratic yard signs in broad daylight. There's a poo poo ton of "Donna for School Board" signs that are just that text over an American flag and Donna is endorsed by the chud State Rep that was just charged with felonies for letting other chuds into the State Capitol. * - I haven't actually gone to look at it. Not sure what a petition to have a rally is, but they're weirdo fundie homeschool types. My wife wrote some poo poo on the first one like "my daughter would like the freedom of your husband not trying to look in her bedroom window" and they called the cops on her. I have yet to see them since getting back home on Saturday. The husband already would never look me in the eye, so this could be fun. ** - I posted screen caps of her face & license plate on the birdsite and had a name in 2 minutes https://www.perkinsforussenate.vote/testimonial/toni-carrasco-tualatin-precinct-committee-person/
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May 13, 2021 18:23
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1392887133476638721 They might as well have dropped it for everyone because every chud is just gonna say “I’m vaccinated” even though they’re not and literally no one will have the time or the desire to check people’s vaccination paperwork.
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May 13, 2021 18:27
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1392887133476638721 I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Is there good information about how the vaccines fare against variants? I feel like the rate of mutation would only increase as bad outbreaks in the US and elsewhere get worse.
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May 13, 2021 18:28
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:They might as well have dropped it for everyone because every chud is just gonna say “I’m vaccinated” even though they’re not and literally no one will have the time or the desire to check people’s vaccination paperwork. It's not like the people who would lie about being vaccinated were wearing masks in the first place.
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May 13, 2021 18:30
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Is there good information about how the vaccines fare against variants? I feel like the rate of mutation would only increase as bad outbreaks in the US and elsewhere get worse. Indian hospitals are reporting that vaccinated workers aren't getting sick, or are only getting mild symptoms, but I don't know how robust that data is. Some of the mRNAs actually perform better against certain variants than vanilla covid and I don't think any of the variants so far actually cause severe disease or hospitalizations in vaccinated individuals. I don't expect us to beat 50% vaccinations worldwide anyway, so whatever variants are gonna happen at that level are gonna happen. Also, we're going to have to see what the specific guidance is, these early reports may be overselling it. We'll know in half an hour. https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1392895744101818373 zoux fucked around with this message at 18:35 on May 13, 2021 |
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May 13, 2021 18:31
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Oracle posted:'If the data says nothing's wrong and there's plenty of supply then why am I worried and hoarding?? CHECK AND MATE.' i guess i shouldn't complain, last year we did end up getting a bunch of free meat from various relatives who ran out of freezer space and needed to free up room
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May 13, 2021 18:33
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Meatball posted:That was the other nutjob, Lauren boebert; I don't know how they're not security risks either. The dems have to have inside knowledge that these people are really dangerous, but they're just allowed to carry on? Boebert was the one who gave tours the day before, right? Some of the recent FBI criminal filings talk about how militia members understood the layout well enough to sprint from their point of entry to let the other teams in on other parts of the building and then those teams bypassed the natural flow of the building to move quickly to specific pre-identified points where they almost intercepted congress members in movement. If those people are the same people that were given tours that would be pretty damning.
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May 13, 2021 18:33
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Mooseontheloose posted:My own thoughts on this is that the chud turnout can't get much higher.... Chud turnout didn't help Trump win the election and in fact lost him the house in 2018. They can't get higher than 2020 turn out on a Presidential general election but doing better than 2018 turn out is potentially doable if they're able to get the chuds that Trump was able to get out and vote for him in 2020 to show up and vote GOP in the 2022 mid terms. And yeah Trump and the GOP lost control of Congress and the Presidency but the Democrat wins there were all far FAR more narrow than the polling was showing they would be. What should've been a transformative landslide win for D's was instead turned into a pretty close squeaker in the Senate, HoR, and Presidency thanks to those chuds who showed up in 2020. 2018's D voting pattern was extremely atypical, completely unexpected, and likely motivated by fear/hate of Trump. There isn't any reason so far to assume reasonably that turn out in the 2022 mid terms will be the same as then since Trump is gone now. The few special elections we've had (which are a bad indicator) so far this year suggest nothing has fundamentally changed with D voter turnout in non-presidential election cycles. Which is really bad for the D's (and everyone else in the US) if true come mid terms but still pretty speculative at this point. If we see a return to the same ol' same ol' mid terms voting patterns of Repubs showing up to vote for poo poo in a box with the GOP label in droves while the D's stay at home then its likely the R's will control the HoR and Senate. If we see a repeat of the 2018 voting pattern than yeah D's will still control both halves of Congress and can grab some more seats but so far there is absolutely nothing to indicate another big D voting wave is coming in the mid terms.
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May 13, 2021 18:37
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https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1392888767325814786 So is he going to be subject to like, treason charges or something. What does the UCMJ say about trying to depose a lawfully elected president?
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May 13, 2021 18:38
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1392888767325814786 FBI is taking the lead on this, and DOJ has first dibs, but I suspect if convicted they'll drum his rear end out fast.
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May 13, 2021 18:39
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James Garfield posted:It's not like the people who would lie about being vaccinated were wearing masks in the first place. Eh, it'll probably make a difference for those refusing to get vaccines who lives in metro areas/states with decent mask regulations. In Minneapolis, they currently [begrudgingly] wear masks
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May 13, 2021 18:40
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Well the vaccines that were made from genetic sequences taken in early 2020 are doing just fine so I wouldn’t stay up at night worrying about vaccine resistant COVID variances. Is it possible? Sure, but so are gamma ray bursts and false vacuum decay and all sorts of other way worse things. The evidence we have in front of us is that COVID does not mutate like influenza does, and most viruses outside of influenza do not go through vaccine resistance inducing mutations.
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May 13, 2021 18:42
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Is there good information about how the vaccines fare against variants? I feel like the rate of mutation would only increase as bad outbreaks in the US and elsewhere get worse. It doesn't matter. We lost control of this situation last year. We are never getting it back. Just go get vaxxed and then pray.
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May 13, 2021 18:43
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Murgos posted:Boebert was the one who gave tours the day before, right? Some of the recent FBI criminal filings talk about how militia members understood the layout well enough to sprint from their point of entry to let the other teams in on other parts of the building and then those teams bypassed the natural flow of the building to move quickly to specific pre-identified points where they almost intercepted congress members in movement. Why? Her constituents wanted a coup.
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May 13, 2021 18:45
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Kalit posted:Eh, it'll probably make a difference for those refusing to get vaccines who lives in metro areas/states with decent mask regulations. In Minneapolis, they currently [begrudgingly] wear masks Despite the target radio announcements saying we require masks because health and safety is our top priority[1], We don't require poo poo and have been mostly getting by with an honor system being followed by most but nowhere near all guests. I fear this will lead to the masked guests abandoning it in mass. [1] Turns out making money is our top priority and all our employees are allowed to just die. But we will still emphasize work safety to insane levels for the backroom though. As long as the safety procedure doesn't get in the way of a sale it is word of God. So now be sure to greet and engage with all those maskless guests but always use a step ladder rather than tippy-toeing it.
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May 13, 2021 18:46
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I know it’s sexy to tell people to just pray that super COVID doesn’t kill their vaccinated asses tomorrow but we have no indication that mutations are going to lead to resistance that will meaningfully impact people who have been vaccinated. You may need a booster shot once every few years but even that’s an open question right now that’s being very loudly brought up by the companies that will benefit from making booster shots.
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May 13, 2021 18:47
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I honestly don't know how I feel about this. Is there good information about how the vaccines fare against variants? I feel like the rate of mutation would only increase as bad outbreaks in the US and elsewhere get worse. the evidence is pretty strong the pvizer vaccine at least fare significantly better against variants than what we pegged (pre-mRNA results) as necessary for an effective vaccine (and thus, probably the moderna one as well). don't know about J&J but iirc its tests were when variants were occurring and so it probably works well against them. there are concerns about the AZ vaccine against variants, but that has not been used in the US and probably never will be
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May 13, 2021 18:48
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Pretty much all my decisions right now depend on whether I can transmit covid post-vaccination. My ethical line is transmitting it to people who are at risk of dying from it.
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May 13, 2021 18:49
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:And yeah Trump and the GOP lost control of Congress and the Presidency but the Democrat wins there were all far FAR more narrow than the polling was showing they would be. What should've been a transformative landslide win for D's was instead turned into a pretty close squeaker in the Senate, HoR, and Presidency thanks to those chuds who showed up in 2020. You thought it should have been a transformative landslide win because the polls were overestimating Democrats. Even then, the polls were pointing at something like 2008's margin (or closer), and the 400 electoral vote landslide was if polls underestimated Biden. It's hard to beat an incumbent president. You could say that Trump should have been easier because he was unpopular, but if you're going to throw out the history of it being hard to beat an incumbent I don't think you can fairly use the argument that the president's party usually loses seats in a midterm election.
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May 13, 2021 18:53
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Welp seems like they're just fully dropping the requirement recommendation https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1392898696208060422
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May 13, 2021 18:55
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Pretty much all my decisions right now depend on whether I can transmit covid post-vaccination. My ethical line is transmitting it to people who are at risk of dying from it. I think that was an initial concern but isn't showing to actually happen (hence why they may drop mask requirements for vaxxers). As a side note, I think I will just be a mask carrier for life now. Not necessarily for COVID, but for work/public situations where someone is clearly sick but won't go home, etc. Just makes sense to be a part of everyday life.
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May 13, 2021 18:55
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BonoMan posted:I think that was an initial concern but isn't showing to actually happen (hence why they may drop mask requirements for vaxxers). Yeah, infection takes viral load, and people who are vaccinated have much lower viral loads when infected (if they get infected) such that they are frequently (but not always!) essentially non-infectious.
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May 13, 2021 18:59
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evilweasel posted:the evidence is pretty strong the pvizer vaccine at least fare significantly better against variants than what we pegged (pre-mRNA results) as necessary for an effective vaccine (and thus, probably the moderna one as well). don't know about J&J but iirc its tests were when variants were occurring and so it probably works well against them. Considering how literally every other aspect of this pandemic (including the rollout of the vaccines themselves) has been handled in about the worst ways possible, it's a nice surprise that the vaccines themselves have seemingly turned out to be astonishingly more effective than our wildest fantasies predicted.
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christmas boots posted:Considering how literally every other aspect of this pandemic (including the rollout of the vaccines themselves) has been handled in about the worst ways possible, it's a nice surprise that the vaccines themselves have seemingly turned out to be astonishingly more effective than our wildest fantasies predicted. A couple of weeks ago, people were sharing a NYT graphic about the story they did about "how long will it take a vaccine to get developed" and they just based it on the normal timeline for vaccinations and it was saying a vaccine was five to ten years out. US media coverage has been overwhelmingly bad and it's because scary news gets clicks. US media has tended to wildly overstate preprint findings or the dangers/prevalence of variants.  Here are the exceptions where the CDC recommends continued mask wearing quote:The new advice comes with caveats. Even vaccinated individuals must cover their faces and physically distance when going to doctors, hospitals or long-term care facilities like nursing homes; when traveling by bus, plane, train or other modes of public transportation, or while in transportation hubs like airports and bus stations; and when in prisons, jails or homeless shelters. zoux fucked around with this message at 19:08 on May 13, 2021 |
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BonoMan posted:I think that was an initial concern but isn't showing to actually happen (hence why they may drop mask requirements for vaxxers). I'm definitely keeping masks in my desk at work in case I get sick. That's a change that I hope stick around.
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May 13, 2021 19:05
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James Garfield posted:You thought it should have been a transformative landslide win because the polls were overestimating Democrats. James Garfield posted:Even then, the polls were pointing at something like 2008's margin James Garfield posted:It's hard to beat an incumbent president. Not if they're poo poo. Usually anyways. Trump's voters know he is poo poo and don't care which is what makes things far more different, creepy, and maybe a bit scary this time around. He is basically a living middle finger directed at D's for them to vote for and applaud.
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May 13, 2021 19:09
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Pretty much all my decisions right now depend on whether I can transmit covid post-vaccination. My ethical line is transmitting it to people who are at risk of dying from it. all the evidence I'm aware of basically says if you don't get a breakthrough infection when you're vaccinated you're not contagious either
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christmas boots posted:Considering how literally every other aspect of this pandemic (including the rollout of the vaccines themselves) has been handled in about the worst ways possible, it's a nice surprise that the vaccines themselves have seemingly turned out to be astonishingly more effective than our wildest fantasies predicted.
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May 13, 2021 19:11
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christmas boots posted:Considering how literally every other aspect of this pandemic (including the rollout of the vaccines themselves) has been handled in about the worst ways possible, it's a nice surprise that the vaccines themselves have seemingly turned out to be astonishingly more effective than our wildest fantasies predicted. Except for the Azstra-Zeneca one that was moderately effective, but also caused a bit of a disaster in South Africa because it was the only vaccine they ordered.
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May 13, 2021 19:13
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Grouchio posted:I also wonder how much smaller the GOP as a whole has gotten between early 2020 and now, post-1/6. https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx 5% uptick before the election, then back down to base rate. 1/6 didn't budge them, better than half the country either wanted a coup or rationalized it by the weekend, and better than half of "Independents" have never and will never vote for anyone but a Republican.
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May 13, 2021 19:13
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Grouchio posted:I also wonder how much smaller the GOP as a whole has gotten between early 2020 and now, post-1/6. They mostly got to re do their gerrymanders and we all know they're harder than ever on voter suppression for 2022 so this, unfortunately, matters less than it should or will for years. Eventually the Boomers will start getting so old you'll see mass die offs as they starting getting much over 70 so it will eventually matter but not in time for 2022.
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May 13, 2021 19:14
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The problems with the "demographics as destiny" and "youth will eventually prevail" narrative is that Baby Boomers will live forever and will expend their wealth and advantages at the expense of their children and grandchildren (although they're not quite as unique on this front as we might be tempted to think). By the time they truly die off, a lot of things might be irreparably damaged so it really is imperative to try to take their hands off the world's steering wheel as soon as possible. I know voting doesn't solve everything and you sometimes need to work outside the established legal process, but if you're a millennial or younger, please, please, please vote as often as you can.
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May 13, 2021 19:19
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Only the oldest boomers are in their 70s. Technically there are boomers who are 55, and it's a large generation. It will be decades until their numbers have dropped enough that they won't matter. There are still silents who turn out for every election.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:To a degree this is true but you're downplaying the fact that Trump really did get a lot of people who don't normally vote to show up and vote for him and R's down ticket and way over performed what everyone, including Repubs, were estimating. There were more Republican voters than ever before voting for Trump in 2020. That isn't the point. The only reason to think 2020 would be a landslide was polling. Republicans thought it would be worse for them than it was because Republican polling was also off. Trump beating his polls doesn't mean that there's a permanent Republican majority, it means there was measurement error in the polls.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Only the oldest boomers are in their 70s. Technically there are boomers who are 55, and it's a large generation. It will be decades until their numbers have dropped enough that they won't matter. There are still silents who turn out for every election. Indeed, but Millenials are already now the largest voting population in the country, and I am hopeful that Zoomers, over the next decade, end up being an extremely politically engaged generation. If we can get them voting like their lives depend on it (which they do) we could be in control of the nation by the end of the decade.
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