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skeletors_condom posted:We had the same situation when the AA gun JPEG got released. I for one would love an interstellar diner in a campy space truckin' sorta way. Sadly citizens want HIGHLY FIDELITOUS truckstops.
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Pixelate posted:(sound on) The nighttime action doesn't look very nighttime.
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May 13, 2021 17:32
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cmdrk posted:I for one would love an interstellar diner in a campy space truckin' sorta way. Sadly citizens want HIGHLY FIDELITOUS truckstops. Got to find the right caliber of lot lizards.
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May 13, 2021 17:35
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Pixelate posted:(sound on) Look at the trees! Look at the lighting! Good lord, it looks straight out of the early aughts.
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May 13, 2021 17:36
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The Titanic posted:Got to find the right caliber of lot lizards. Are those hangar lizards in the fidelitous far future of the 'verse?
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May 13, 2021 17:37
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May 13, 2021 17:48
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Chrom1um posted:Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about things. At least that's the way I see it.
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May 13, 2021 17:57
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Pixelate posted:(sound on) So he says all ground vehicles take steady damage just by driving and eventually just explode randomly. 
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May 13, 2021 17:58
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So what exactly do you...do with the tank currently? Is there actually anything to shoot at or otherwise use it for anything other than what seems like just driving a vehicle that handles like a bar of soap on hot asphalt?
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May 13, 2021 18:06
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The Titanic posted:The nighttime action doesn't look very nighttime. Oh I should mention, on this particular night he was saying this: The promised modding won’t come to SC, but it will come to ToW I love this guy’s habit of pulling things out of his rear end and then exploding
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May 13, 2021 18:07
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novaSphere posted:So what exactly do you...do with the tank currently? Is there actually anything to shoot at or otherwise use it for anything other than what seems like just driving a vehicle that handles like a bar of soap on hot asphalt? You would think it would be the easiest thing to at least add a single mission to destroy a battery of AA trucks or something, but this is store citizer. Your tank mission is to try to stuff it into a ship without the world exploding and take epic screenshots
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May 13, 2021 18:26
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Chrom1um posted:Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about things. they are incompetent. It has nothing to do with their chosen engine or that it is supposed to be a MMO.
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May 13, 2021 18:56
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novaSphere posted:So what exactly do you...do with the tank currently? Is there actually anything to shoot at or otherwise use it for anything other than what seems like just driving a vehicle that handles like a bar of soap on hot asphalt? The subreddit tells me it can be used to destroy prison turrets
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May 13, 2021 18:57
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novaSphere posted:So what exactly do you...do with the tank currently? Is there actually anything to shoot at or otherwise use it for anything other than what seems like just driving a vehicle that handles like a bar of soap on hot asphalt? The same thing you do with funcopops, gunpla, model airplanes, warhams, special edition busts, and assorted other injection-molded plastic garbage: you put it on a shelf to look at once in a while and feel like you've filled that hole in your heart a little bit Except with Store Citizer you don't own the shelf and eventually it will vanish
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May 13, 2021 19:04
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Fidelitious posted:Please, go on. You know, Peyronie's disease. I think Chris Chan has it.
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May 13, 2021 19:06
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The Titanic posted:Got to find the right caliber of lot lizards. I was repairing the shield generator on my 890 Jump when he walked up to my cockpit, his six jackets unzipped just-so. I marveled at his golden, highly fidelitous chest hair and the glisten of space sweat across his six pack. He was an Adonis for hire, and I had a pile of UEC burning a hole in my wallet. As I stuffed my cred chip down his pants, he leaned in and whispered in my ear, "Buy an Idris."
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May 13, 2021 19:07
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I think this is the secret that both CIG and Citizens know but won't admit: this is not a video game anymore, it is a digital toy shelf for spaceship collectors. The people who wanted an actual game are long gone, the spaceship-traders are mostly out except for some grey market launderers. It's just collectors left. At this point it's apparent that the space ships will never be remotely functional, and the only reason Citizens insist otherwise is that if they accepted that understanding they'd have to reckon with the fact that they have this collector's urge hard-wired into them at some deep level, and CIG has managed to hook their marketing into it even though their goods are digital and inherently worthless. Turbulent has done so good at painting a perception of value on their goods that even at this late date the collectors don't want to admit that what they've bought is effectively worth nothing.
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May 13, 2021 19:12
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trucutru posted:they are incompetent. It has nothing to do with their chosen engine or that it is supposed to be a MMO. no, that's an overly reductionist and simple response. most of these weird bugs are due to the engine choice, which was decision that came from the incompetency of a single person
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May 13, 2021 19:14
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DOMDOM posted:Glassdoor is always interesting. Given their garbage pay and dipshit management you have to wonder how many of these are 20-somethings straight out of college/new to the workforce. (all of them) Worth it just for the one that said "You can do things here that are future interview gold." Which...yeah, definitely. If I was interviewing job applicants and saw CIG on their resume, I would absolutely bring them in for an interview just to satisfy my morbid curiosity about what the gently caress that was like. I don't know if it would be "interview gold" in the sense that it would get you a job, but in the sense of "the only thing you will be talking about in this interview?" That's a big yes.
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Lammasu posted:You know, Peyronie's disease. I think Chris Chan has it. That's a name I haven't heard in a while. Though I do recall some goon once pointed out that his Playstation Network profile showed he was a compulsive digital hoarder, buying games every day. Including every DLC, even for games he'd never played. I guess that's a thing with autism. It certainly explains the Star Citizen business model. Trilobite posted:Worth it just for the one that said "You can do things here that are future interview gold." "Mr. Smith, it says here you worked with Sandi Gardiner. Tell me, can she really speak Filipino, French, German, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Spanish, AND Tagalog? How are her sword skills?" William Bear fucked around with this message at 19:24 on May 13, 2021 |
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Deskeletonized posted:Look at the trees! Look at the lighting! Good lord, it looks straight out of the early aughts. It does give off Operation Flashpoint vibes.
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Mozi posted:no, that's an overly reductionist and simple response. most of these weird bugs are due to the engine choice, which was decision that came from the incompetency of a single person Except a number of good/working video games (Crysis/Farcry) have been made with Cryengine. The difference here is the developer and CIG cannot make video games, they are incompetent and even if they were using the "correct" engine they still couldn't make the game they promised. Cryengine at it's heart is an FPS engine and CIG couldn't even get that working with Star Marine/Theaters of War.
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May 13, 2021 19:47
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Oh, so they didn't actually shrink everything 200 times but the map is so big the engine interpretes it so? Cool. Because I was just about to ask about the source of the "Star Citizen is actually tiny in-engine" because a buddy asked me about it and I'm wondering if this is thread rumor or speculation or did we get some confirmation about this?
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L. Ron Hoover posted:So he says all ground vehicles take steady damage just by driving and eventually just explode randomly. I would bet good money this extends towards things like lowering a shuttle ramp, too
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Sarsapariller posted:I think this is the secret that both CIG and Citizens know but won't admit: this is not a video game anymore, it is a digital toy shelf for spaceship collectors. well said. maybe croberts is going to actually invent the quantum drive and these ships will all be real real.
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May 13, 2021 20:02
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Deskeletonized posted:Are those hangar lizards in the fidelitous far future of the 'verse? Naw. That'd be considered creativity. If it was good enough for WW2 it's good enough here. Not sure if lot lizard existed as a term then though and I'm sure as heck not going to research it further either, though.
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novaSphere posted:So what exactly do you...do with the tank currently? Is there actually anything to shoot at or otherwise use it for anything other than what seems like just driving a vehicle that handles like a bar of soap on hot asphalt? You can drive it and shoot the gun and play Storage Citizen with it. That's basically it. It's a 4K artwork for you to buy with no gameplay, and in the one video I saw of it in combat with a ship, the ship just hung itself directly over it facing down and infinitely hovered until the tank exploded... because a tank can't counter space ships. So it's just another thing to buy that, if the game ever becomes a game, there will be no point in being in it unless you just like to be killed.
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Pixelate posted:Oh I should mention, on this particular night he was saying this: Oh good. I hope he did his noble duty of linking to the CIG official modding user guide so people can buy that and start modding their own servers.
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cmdrk posted:I was repairing the shield generator on my 890 Jump when he walked up to my cockpit, his six jackets unzipped just-so. I marveled at his golden, highly fidelitous chest hair and the glisten of space sweat across his six pack. He was an Adonis for hire, and I had a pile of UEC burning a hole in my wallet. As I stuffed my cred chip down his pants, he leaned in and whispered in my ear, Did he then whip it out and you both did some penis sword fighting until somebody lost due to Peyronie's disease?
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Kikas posted:Oh, so they didn't actually shrink everything 200 times but the map is so big the engine interpretes it so? Cool. It's an unconfirmed rumor, but the wonky physics do seem to imply they did something with the scaling somewhere.
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The Titanic posted:Did he then whip it out and you both did some penis sword fighting until somebody lost due to Peyronie's disease? Sounds great. SHIP IT!
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Kavros posted:Mind blown at the guy trying to start from scratch with no money. Whoa- the vanguard warden doesn’t completely suck now? Crazy times we’re living in. I still have a cutlass black I couldn’t sell, hopefully that will be a good ship when SC is finally done.  cmdrk posted:I for one would love an interstellar diner in a campy space truckin' sorta way. Sadly citizens want HIGHLY FIDELITOUS truckstops. Like the diner in Spaceballs? Cause I’d play that game.
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punishedkissinger posted:The subreddit tells me it can be used to destroy prison turrets So there's a 30% chance that's actually true.
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Time_pants posted:So there's a 30% chance that's actually true. It will destroy prison turrets in that when you fire the gun at a turret the entire server crashes, so technically it's true.
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Mozi posted:no, that's an overly reductionist and simple response. most of these weird bugs are due to the engine choice, which was decision that came from the incompetency of a single person While we don't know exactly what causes the bugs we do know what their custom additions to the engine are. These are very specific things that were not present in any engine at the time the project started (and most aren't present in Engines nowadays) so. had they implemented them in any other engine, the result would have been pretty much the same because they -as a company- are incompetent. You could give them an engine that did everything they wanted and they would still gently caress it up because they would see that as an invitation to add more custom stuff on top, eventually breaking everything. So yeah, it is a simple and reductionist response but it is also what happened.
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Kikas posted:Oh, so they didn't actually shrink everything 200 times but the map is so big the engine interpretes it so? Cool. It is just a rumor/speculation that was may or may not be true, partly fueled by the scale issues that they had with the original Star Marine. It would explain many things. For example, when an entity (commando, tonk) moves from one submap to another (from a station to a ship, etc) the local coordinate location of the entity has to be recalculated so that it is in the proper location in the new map, if they have indeed shrunk everything then slight floating point errors during conversion could trigger their collision detection causing stuff like vehicles exploding when using a ramp. Personally I find it unlikely since they have switched to 64bit precision but they are just so bad at being a developer that it might be possible.
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When I was working as a security guard their was like this religious trucking company called Covenant. Once I saw a sticker on one of the window that said no lot lizard and it had a picture of what looked like a Halo Jackal in a dress and wig.
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The Titanic posted:So it's just another thing to buy that, if the game ever becomes a game, there will be no point in being in it unless you just like to be killed. The crowning irony of all of the ground vehicles is that they are dirt-cheap in game, compared to any spaceship, because the people balancing the game know that they are worthless. So the actual USD are even more poorly spent- they are saving themselves 2-3 hours of earning money in-game, if even that.
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trucutru posted:It is just a rumor/speculation that was may or may not be true, partly fueled by the scale issues that they had with the original Star Marine. I think the collision detection and ramp errors are largely happening because everything, everything in this game is server authoritative. So if you're trying to drive up an incline and you lag even slightly, you personally will see your tank going up at the proper angle but the server is predicting your motion on the horizontal plane and thinks you should be slightly inside the ramp. It should be easy to verify- as soon as INVICTUS WEEK or whatever the current server overload is has ended, the errors should drop back off. The fact that CIG is apparently okay with their game taking a poo poo any time more than 50 people log on at once is pretty funny though.
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Lammasu posted:When I was working as a security guard their was like this religious trucking company called Covenant. Once I saw a sticker on one of the window that said no lot lizard and it had a picture of what looked like a Halo Jackal in a dress and wig.  Got to keep them at bay. Don't make them pull up their holy water and cross and start dousing those poor lot lizards just trying to pull some ends near with a few tricks.
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