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Should troll Fancy Pelosi be allowed to stay?
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Mischievous Mink
May 29, 2012

Despera posted:

was waiting for someone to compare the isreali head of state to hitler

The dude loves hitler and literally defends him. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/netanyahu-absolves-hitler-of-guilt-1.5411578

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TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Flopsy posted:

I'm not saying Israel didn't start it, they did. But they're both firing missiles into civilian areas my guy.

Framing it like this implies some kind of equivalency of force. Palestinian rockets are a loving joke compared to the Israeli arsenal

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!




also didn't another recent government official in israel (i wanna say minister of education?) say that european jews deserved what they got in the holocaust

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Flopsy posted:

I'm not saying Israel didn't start it, they did. But they're both firing missiles into civilian areas my guy.

Haha gently caress you "I'm just sayin'" eat poo poo jesus christ.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Sanguinia posted:

Total side note: Today I was teaching about causes of World War 1 and trying to explain how Nationalism is bad and leads to wars, and was focusing on the idea that Nationalism often leads to demonizing other countries who are perceived as potentially threatening yours, especially when you're on top of the global hierarchy, making war more likely as both leaders and citizens start to see any competitor as an enemy. When they seemed to struggle with understanding this in terms of the rivalry between 1900s UK and Germany, I tried to analogize by telling them about how in the 80s the US started to see Japan's economic growth as a threat when they started buying American companies and offices in American cities, despite them being one of our closest allies, to the point where people embraced Xenophobia and even sometimes open racism, peddling crazy conspiracy theories that this was going to become some kind of Economic Takeover and it would be their revenge for losing World War 2.

A couple of those kids decided that the crazy xenophobia and the idea that Japan buying US companies was a precursor to economic hegemony as revenge for WW2 made perfect sense, and I had to spend almost 20 minutes trying to figure out a way to explain to them how insane this was. I truly fear what these kids are being exposed to at home by their chud parents.

Did you show them this

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.
Sorry if this was already posted, but it looks like Mike Parson is continuing to be a huge shitbag:
https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1392971678519541769
Here's some responses in the story from him and state Democrats:

quote:

"Although I was never in support of MO HealthNet expansion, I always said that I would uphold the ballot amendment if it passed," Parson said. "However, without a revenue source or funding authority from the General Assembly, we are unable to proceed with the expansion at this time and must withdraw our state plan amendments to ensure Missouri's existing MO HealthNet program remains solvent."

The decision is certain to face legal challenges, which Parson acknowledged in comments to reporters after the announcement.

"I don't want to speculate what the courts will do, because there's a lot of moving parts to this," he said. "You know there's going to be court actions on both sides, I'm sure."

Democrats in Missouri, including the top Democrat in the statehouse and multiple mayors, immediately criticized the governor's decision.

"By backtracking on implementation of Medicaid expansion, Gov. Parson is breaking his promise to the people of this state and violating his oath to uphold the Missouri Constitution," said House Minority Leader Crystal Quade. "Medicaid expansion will still happen as the constitution requires, but because of the governor's dishonorable action, it will take a court order to do it."

The American Cancer Society also urged the governor to reconsider.

"Cancer patients cannot wait for legal battles to access the life-saving coverage that Medicaid expansion provides," the group's government relations director in Missouri, Emily Kalmer, said in a statement.

Missouri's current Medicaid program is one of the most restrictive in the United States. To qualify, a family of three must earn less than 21% of the federal poverty level — in 2021, that amount is just $5,400. Childless adults cannot qualify at all.

I wish we could have a federal ballot initiative question for a single payer healthcare system and just get that done already :sigh:

Kalit fucked around with this message at 13:15 on May 14, 2021

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Kalit posted:

Sorry if this was already posted, but it looks like Mike Parson is continuing to be a huge shitbag:
https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1392971678519541769
Here's some responses in the story from him and state Democrats:


I wish we could have a federal ballot initiative question for a single payer healthcare system and just get that done already :sigh:

The fact that the GOP can openly deny unemployment during a pandemic and refuse health care expansions that were popularly voted in, and STILL get 30% of the country to vote in lockstep for them, is profoundly depressing

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib
Mike Parsons is a loving ghoul

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

Kalit posted:

Sorry if this was already posted, but it looks like Mike Parson is continuing to be a huge shitbag:
https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1392971678519541769

Republicans are just plain evil.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/sarah_boxer/status/1393168723838750723?s=21

House GOP caucus is loving nuts man

BRAKE FOR MOOSE
Jun 6, 2001

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Yeah, for all the abuse the two party nature of American politics gets (and deserves), it has had the advantage of denying absolute lunatics control over the government in all but two occasions: the run-up to the Civil War and the last couple decades. Imagine if instead of FDR we had so many small parties that an actual fascist of some stripe had been elected during the Great Depression.

I think the success of liberalism in the US has less to do with the particular structure of our government and more to do with global circumstances and us having three million square miles of territory to conquer and exploit followed by the collapse of basically every empire except our own and Japan.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

TulliusCicero posted:

The fact that the GOP can openly deny unemployment during a pandemic and refuse health care expansions that were popularly voted in, and STILL get 30% of the country to vote in lockstep for them, is profoundly depressing

For me it is angering.

I hate the people that vote in lockstep for them.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

Heavy Shit
Grimey Drawer

Flopsy posted:

I honestly feel horribly for the civilians on both side seeing as they didn't ask for this

You sure about that?

https://twitter.com/EmpireFiles/status/1393015740291162120?s=19

th3t00t
Aug 14, 2007

GOOD CLEAN FOOTBALL

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Arizona joins 12 other states in ending the UI expansion. 7 more considering doing so on June 1.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1392962862058905601
Get back to work slaves! I mean.. peasants! I mean... just get back to work!

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



This fits perfectly

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

DarkCrawler posted:

For me it is angering.

I hate the people that vote in lockstep for them.

Hopefully they still remember bullshit like this next year for the midterm elections. The next governor election there isn't until 2024.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
92% means two GOP Senators aren’t vaccinated. We can probably deduce who it is pretty well.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Kalit posted:

Hopefully they still remember bullshit like this next year for the midterm elections. The next governor election there isn't until 2024.

All I can think about is how hard you would have to work to somehow NOT make an absolute nuke of a campaign ad out of "As Governor, he refused free money that could have saved your life"

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Rand Paul and Ron Johnson, they're both public about it.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Jarmak posted:

Rand Paul and Ron Johnson, they're both public about it.

Lol and we'll never see them wearing masks again, guaranteed.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

whydirt posted:

92% means two GOP Senators aren’t vaccinated. We can probably deduce who it is pretty well.

Four senators

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


https://twitter.com/tomaskenn/status/1393188637559427082?s=19

They're all such openly pieces of poo poo

E: That's rep Doug Lamborn of Colorado

Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS
Doctor Rand Paul has very publicly said he doesn’t need the vaccine since he already caught Covid.

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Wouldn't surprise me if the vast majority of GOP house reps are vaccinated but they just don't want to say they are.

SixFigureSandwich fucked around with this message at 14:37 on May 14, 2021

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Slowpoke! posted:

Doctor Rand Paul has very publicly said he doesn’t need the vaccine since he already caught Covid.

That's one thing I've been wondering, is the immune response built by contracting the virus much worse than one built by the vaccine? Received wisdom all my life has been that if you catch something once you can't get it again (or for some period of time), you know, like chicken pox. Is that not the case with covid?

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1393193114060349442

Wasserman caused Sinema!!!

https://twitter.com/brikeilarcnn/status/1393191121749168129

Red state vax hesitancy solved

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:

Oops, you’re correct!

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Sephyr posted:

Right? I mean, even from a lizard-blooded realpolitik imperialist perspective, there is nothing to be gained by boosting Israel to the degree the US does. It grants no useful resources. It doesn't even serve as a base for its military presence in the region. Grants no air access. No oil or gas ducts run through it. It's bordering no common enemy of note that they can't reach or project power onto. It costs money, prestige, security.

Even the british Raj would have ditched a protectorate that was 100% cost and no dividends. I guess there's the internal angle of born-again lunatics and trying to cling to some fading hero points from helping one of the biggest victims of WW2, which was the Last Good War.
You can say the same thing about the afghanistan war, what benefit exactly is there for the US in propping up a corrupt incompetent puppet government there for decades?

US foreign policy isn't really about realpolitik or getting an advantage in the Great Game with other major powers or any of that. It's mostly about funneling the wealth of the country into the pockets of military contractors and the rest of the war industry, and a client state in an endless forever war with an insatiable appetite for bombs and munitions is pretty good for that.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

zoux posted:

Wasserman caused Sinema!!!
I will not stand for this McSally erasure. Nobody has done more to ensure a Dem majority.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Flopsy posted:

I honestly feel horribly for the civilians on both side seeing as they didn't ask for this but they're going to get the worst of it. But seriously the people running the show over there have made it their mission to try and outdo each other with atrocities. I can't root for either of them because I think they're both insane/vicious motherfuckers.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TinySnekComics/status/1392518674322448386

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


A man walks up to former president, Barack Obama.

Man: Hello, former president Barack Obama. I'd like to ask you a question.
Barack Obama: Go ahead.
Man: If you walked up to a cow on the holy day of celebration of the Islamic faith, what would he say?
Barack Obama: I don't know, what would he say?
Man: He'd Moo Barack Obama

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1393195425021243395

Lol Chip Roy in shambles

Vote total

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1393197562723700739

Jim Jordan stands for Jim Jordan

zoux fucked around with this message at 14:34 on May 14, 2021

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

VitalSigns posted:

You can say the same thing about the afghanistan war, what benefit exactly is there for the US in propping up a corrupt incompetent puppet government there for decades?

US foreign policy isn't really about realpolitik or getting an advantage in the Great Game with other major powers or any of that. It's mostly about funneling the wealth of the country into the pockets of military contractors and the rest of the war industry, and a client state in an endless forever war with an insatiable appetite for bombs and munitions is pretty good for that.

Afghanistan sits on an important route for gas and oil ducts. It's also a mineral bonanza: lithium, copper, sulphur, bauxite. Keeping it open to US business interests fits a more traditional imperialist MO.

As for the war industry, you're very much not wrong, but the US government just gives Israel billions every year, which they then use to buy US weapons. Why not skip the middleman and just give the cash to the companies, without getting involved in a moral sinkhole? I guess that's be socialism.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




It does seem like the GOP House has a gently caress ton of pure strain crazy in their midst. A lot of them are lot younger than in the Senate, so pure strain crazy might be here for a while

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004



Dumb and boring as circle tracks are to watch, I expect they're still pretty fun to drive. This is a very good idea.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Sephyr posted:

Afghanistan sits on an important route for gas and oil ducts. It's also a mineral bonanza: lithium, copper, sulphur, bauxite. Keeping it open to US business interests fits a more traditional imperialist MO.

As for the war industry, you're very much not wrong, but the US government just gives Israel billions every year, which they then use to buy US weapons. Why not skip the middleman and just give the cash to the companies, without getting involved in a moral sinkhole? I guess that's be socialism.

Pete Buttigieg apparently keeps a mineral map of Afghanistan in his bedroom

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Sephyr posted:

Afghanistan sits on an important route for gas and oil ducts. It's also a mineral bonanza: lithium, copper, sulphur, bauxite. Keeping it open to US business interests fits a more traditional imperialist MO.

As for the war industry, you're very much not wrong, but the US government just gives Israel billions every year, which they then use to buy US weapons. Why not skip the middleman and just give the cash to the companies, without getting involved in a moral sinkhole? I guess that's be socialism.
Yes Afghanistan isn't worthless but the returns are clearly not worth the expense of occupying it, the British and Russians found that out too. Even Bush knew it, they were pissed that they had to invade Afghanistan first before they could go after the oil in Iraq.

As for why they don't just sign over the whole GDP to Lockheed Martin directly: they would if they could and they give them a lot but at some point you need a plausible excuse for public consumption like the War On Terror or defending plucky Israel's democracy or whatever.

Supporting Israel is an excuse to give bomb makers a never ending market for their bombs: it's constantly at war, surrounded by people it's trying to conquer, you can leverage Americans' racism against Arabs and Muslims to get public support, etc. It's the perfect ally if all you need is a way for you and your friends to loot the global superpower.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




Lmao that Gym Jordan couldn't even get the other GOP loons to support his idiocy

"BUT I'M POPULAR ON FOX!" :byodood:

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I don't know that JJ voted for himself, I just like the image of Ol Shirtsleeves nominating himself while the entire caucus avoids making eye contact

Saxophone
Sep 19, 2006


ReidRansom posted:

Dumb and boring as circle tracks are to watch, I expect they're still pretty fun to drive. This is a very good idea.

I don't give even the slightest, remotest gently caress about racing, but holy poo poo I'd do that in a heartbeat to get to do a lap around a race track like, it sounds rad as hell.

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DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

zoux posted:

I don't know that JJ voted for himself, I just like the image of Ol Shirtsleeves nominating himself while the entire caucus avoids making eye contact

Nominations require someone to second you don't they?

So ol' Gym Jordan couldn't even get the guy who seconded his nomination to vote for him.

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