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stev posted:It's all so bloody noncommittal. If they're going to delay the June changes I wish they'd just get it over with and say so now so people can re-plan their lives.
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i just wish we had some information either way on whether the other foot is dropping and the indian variant is going to gently caress everything up, or if this is just a hiccup the media wants me to be terrified at all times because its good for business, I realise this and yet I cannot deny this is making me anxious.
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ThomasPaine posted:Yes, the whole point of ideology is that it's completely invisible to the person holding it unless they make a very real effort to engage with their thought processes and value systems and the broader implications of their actions at quite a deep level. This isn't necessarily a fun process, because it means acknowledging your own culpability in some pretty grim things, particularly if you're part of a group that has benefited at the expense of others (i.e. everyone in the West). Most people could probably get behind an explaination of the redistribution of wealth if you point out the scale of how much more than them a multibillionaire has. By now, most people get the whole 99% vs the 1% thing. If you scale that out globally though and point out that we (the average uk internet connected house) are the 1% in that situation, you get into trickier territory because you're no longer saying "they have to give their stuff to us," you're saying "we have to give our stuff to them." Not only do people not want to give their stuff away, they also don't want to acknowledge an ideology that moves them from being the good guys recieving stuff to the bad guys hording stuff. E: Then the weird post-hoc justification begins.
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Regarde Aduck posted:i just wish we had some information either way on whether the other foot is dropping and the indian variant is going to gently caress everything up, or if this is just a hiccup *notable omission from Johnson's thing: what even is a london? You can pretty much tell he's just not prepared to impose any new measures from how he didn't say the word "London" once despite it having the most cases of the Indian variant by a fair margin
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May 14, 2021 18:15
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Regarde Aduck posted:i just wish we had some information either way on whether the other foot is dropping and the indian variant is going to gently caress everything up, or if this is just a hiccup Just for once I'm very, very slightly sympathetic with him. The problem is it *looks like* the Indian variant is both more contagious than the Kent variant but also stopped - or at least heavily mitigated - by all three vaccines, so trying to out-race the variant by pushing out the vaccines even faster is the right thing to do. However neither of those are actually confirmed yet - if it turns out that actually the Indian variant is less transmissible, or as transmissible, as Kent then we're cool and it was all a storm in a tea cup. However if it turns out that in fact it can slip past the vaccines then we *have* to go back into lockdown. The problem is he can't just not say anything, so you do end up with this kind of wishy-washy poo poo. Having said that any sympathy whatsoever I might have for him instantly evaporates when I remember the reason the Indian variant has managed to get a foothold into the country is he deliberately ignored the advice to red-list India so as not to disturb trade talks, and also of course that the quarantine and TTI measures are still loving pointless. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 18:24 on May 14, 2021 |
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Also bear in mind that Johnson allegedly said he would rather see bodies piled high than do another Lockdown, and you would be right to have some doubts about the current course of action. He might be doing the correct thing, but he's hardly a neutral actor willing to fairly weigh up the pros and cons of both sides.
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Now look 'ere constable, dis is wot we in da Ferapist Squad call CBT, wot is a very complicated an' effective way to prevent soo-side-al-ty in a scumbag. *starts bludgeoning victim in the nuts with a truncheon while yelling NOW DON'T DO IT AGAIN*
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May 14, 2021 19:11
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Failed Imagineer posted:Same energy 
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Barry Foster posted:So this is completely hosed They have a SIM pilot team in my old trust, I wish I'd found out more about it when I was there but they had a very small number of patients so I only ever encountered them indirectly. I don't think it's an inherently bad idea in theory - there really is a small subset of people with severe personality disorders who take up a disproportionate amount of mental health, GP and emergency service time and who would clearly benefit from individualised case working and care coordination. Involving the police in planning should theoretically be a protective measure - these patients are going to be encountering the police frequently anyway so you might as well try to reduce the risk of them coming to harm in the process. (It's a similar principle to the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre - keeping the police in the loop about people who think they have a divine mission to break into Buckingham Palace should hopefully reduce the risk of those people getting shot.) Unfortunately if that presentation linked by the blog is representative it looks like the project is aimed at reducing costs and service use first and patient experience a distant second - I didn't see any outcomes that actually tell you whether it's actually helping people or not (apart from length of hospital stay, which is arguable either way). Plus getting the police involved always runs the risk of letting MH services indulge their vindictive side.
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e: stupid post, sorry, can I get a comedy sixer? Thanks
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Someone please tweet this at Adonis
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His Divine Shadow posted:Someone please tweet this at Adonis  e: honestly this needs to go on literally every tweet he mentions blair in Borrovan fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 14, 2021 |
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May 14, 2021 20:28
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DarkCrawler posted:I'd love to help out our British friends in their time of need (vaccinated, love London) but I fear I'm going to be tossed into whatever the British equivalent of Guantanamo Bay is at the moment: As usual the UK continues to do things in the worst possible way. Most places either just herd you off to get on literally the next flight back home with a seat, or will say "You're forbidden from working but we will allow you to enter the country for a few days because we understand you've got a lot of plans that will need to be changed, you're staying with family and at a known address, and you have a purpose here in a familial visit outside of the work you were intending to do. Please ensure you're out of the country by X date." And indeed it looks like we do exactly that with some people but not others? Seems like the sensible thing to do would be to go to Arrivals, collect the person there to meet the passenger, and bring them back to the office to have a chat and figure things out. As with so much else you can be reasonable and meet people halfway, leading to a productive outcome, or you can be a fashy oval office, leading to everyone being angry and hostile, and the UK chooses fashy. Very similar to the coppers "Solve mental health crises by beating the poo poo out of people what have mental health problems" option! Dabir posted:Now look 'ere constable, dis is wot we in da Ferapist Squad call CBT, wot is a very complicated an' effective way to prevent soo-side-al-ty in a scumbag. Only problem here is I would be entirely tempted to do it again so I could get another CBT session 
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Ms Adequate posted:Most places either just herd you off to get on literally the next flight back home with a seat 
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I am loving terrified at the mere thought that Blair could return, even if its unlikely.
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I just cannot believe they are willing to let people back inside on Monday, I manage a pub in Shoreditch and its already a nightmare keeping people separated and yet with all the science they did with airflow etc they are still going to inflame this for such a small gain Just keep people outside till June sheesh
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Guys the pubs are opening GOON MEET I KNOW A PUB IN SHOREDITCH 
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ThomasPaine posted:Yes they really seem to be banking on the vaccine rollout preventing another wave while also apparently forgetting that the primary clientele of pubs are younger people who haven't been offered it yet unless they've got broken insides like me They're banking on those younger people not dying or being hospitalized and just being mildly ill for a while with largely unknown long term respiratory damage. If cases skyrocket but hospitalizations and deaths stay put they'll stay on course because it doesn't matter to them.
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stev posted:They're banking on those younger people not dying or being hospitalized and just being mildly ill for a while with largely unknown long term respiratory damage. "Cough your lungs out to help out" would be pretty much on-message with most of the Covid response. I'm still convinced the early pre-lockdown herd immunity push was due to some of the more sociopathic government advisors thinking we could speedrun the infection through the entire population in six weeks back in march 2020 in order to reopen early and get the drop on the Eu economically.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Someone please tweet this at Adonis https://twitter.com/CouncilCulture/status/1393318059193114625 Pity about Twitters lovely cropping
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Guys the pubs are opening GOON MEET I KNOW A PUB IN SHOREDITCH A good rule of thumb is to never drink in Shoreditch
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Mr Owl posted:A good rule of thumb is to never drink in Shoreditch Dinerama was good 
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Camrath posted:New fudge alert! Dangit space out your delicious fudge releases, I still have 4 packets to work through before I can think about buying more and the new hotness will be gone by then! 
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Mr Owl posted:A good rule of thumb is to never drink in Shoreditch Some of my favourite pubs are around Shoreditch. The real trick, as with any area, is to avoid any pub that someone with a haircut says is good.
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stev posted:If cases skyrocket but hospitalizations and deaths stay put they'll stay on course because it doesn't matter to them. So unless the unvaccinated young are literally collapsing in the street, any long term health issues are not going to be considered a factor by Johnson at all.
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I'm staying the gently caress inside with the hot tub and the bar I built over lockdown until Christmas. Sheff goons are welcome to visit my back garden and I will provide you pizza and /or booze.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Some of my favourite pubs are around Shoreditch. The real trick, as with any area, is to avoid any pub that someone with a haircut says is good. "I only drink in Sikh pubs" is pretty hipster, even by Shoreditch standards
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The Question IRL posted:Also bear in mind that Johnson allegedly said he would rather see bodies piled high than do another Lockdown I like how "bodies piled high" is so consistent with Johnson's persona that it's irrelevant whether he actually said it. He's going to be remembered for it like Marie Antoinette is remembered for saying "let them eat cake".
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Some of my favourite pubs are around Shoreditch. The real trick, as with any area, is to avoid any pub that someone with a haircut says is good. I get all my Shoreditch information from Nathan Barley. Total Mexico.
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https://twitter.com/milkgapes/status/1393349132383891458 https://twitter.com/milkgapes/status/1393349590573854723 Now I know that politician's private lives should be private, but still... lol
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May 15, 2021 00:44
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In Tony Blair news: https://twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1393256544251244544
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Munin posted:In Tony Blair news: https://twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1393256544251244544 Are you going to make sure of that, Tony?
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Risking was strongly rumoured to have been considering funding CUKTIG, whether or not she actually did.
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Yvonmukluk posted:Dangit space out your delicious fudge releases, I still have 4 packets to work through before I can think about buying more and the new hotness will be gone by then! Ah, but there’ll be more new hotness then! I’m building up stock levels atm hence the frequency of releases.
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Munin posted:In Tony Blair news: https://twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1393256544251244544 Has anyone in Labour even expressed disapproval of Rowling? It's such a complete non-story even if it happened, and I don't think it did.
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