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DoesNotCompute
Apr 10, 2006

Big Wiener.

Volguus posted:

How do you have google maps in there? Does it run Android?

It has a built in LTE "phone" essentially which is deactivated for the Canadian market, if you turn it on and have a spare sim card kicking around it can then download google maps and use it as an overlay in the built in navigation. Lots of info out there about getting the maps working if you tether to your phone for data but was happy to get it all working within the car without needing a phone. Can also use the car as a wifi hotspot now however the reception is spotty, I ordered an LTE antenna that should just plug into the back of the unit and I'm hoping that'll help things.

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mik
Oct 16, 2003
oh

DoesNotCompute posted:

So I'm a little over a month into A4 ownership after driving Jettas for a decade and the honeymoon hasn't worn off. 2017 seems to have been in a weird little sweet spot as far as "gently caress with-able" tech is concerned after picking up an obdeleven. Managed to get the sim-card slot working and using a Telus sim have Google maps overlay in the built in nav without needing to tether to a phone or use carplay which is nice, also video in motion so the sig other can watch dvd seasons on road trips. Super happy with it and now just talking myself out of throwing a tune on it. Also a clay bar and fresh wax mixed with scuba blue has me in love.



Great looking car I love that colour, are you on PEI? I'll honk if I see you around :)

mik fucked around with this message at 15:48 on May 11, 2021

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE

DoesNotCompute posted:

It has a built in LTE "phone" essentially which is deactivated for the Canadian market, if you turn it on and have a spare sim card kicking around it can then download google maps and use it as an overlay in the built in navigation. Lots of info out there about getting the maps working if you tether to your phone for data but was happy to get it all working within the car without needing a phone. Can also use the car as a wifi hotspot now however the reception is spotty, I ordered an LTE antenna that should just plug into the back of the unit and I'm hoping that'll help things.

My 2019 Q8 has the sim enabled in Canada and all data functions including google maps works fine without a cell phone

DoesNotCompute
Apr 10, 2006

Big Wiener.

Nitr0 posted:

My 2019 Q8 has the sim enabled in Canada and all data functions including google maps works fine without a cell phone

Yeah that makes sense since it's a '19. No Audi connect features were available on the '17 A4 so it took screwing around with the long coding to get the hardware active and working with software, sim and google maps weren't available otherwise.

mik posted:

Great looking car I love that colour, are you on PEI? I'll honk if I see you around :)

Yep I am, I'll keep an ear out for honks, small world.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
Just went to check out a nice 6k mile 2019 Golf Alltrack S at a dealer. Hasn't been through the shop and had a price set yet, but the sales manager said they would probably price it at $27k. If not a little more. With their bullshit "mandatory" processing fee, I think that's more than sticker when it was new.

:(

flightless greeb
Jan 28, 2016

It's a Topsy Turvey time my friend

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


yeah i did a carvana sale estimate on my mk7 golf R for shits and giggles and they offered me 10k over the loan balance and nearly what i paid for it in 2019

Rusty
Sep 28, 2001
Dinosaur Gum
I was also offered 10k over what I owe on my GTI from Carvana and would probably take it if they had any Golf Rs for trade.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
Yep, just a lovely time to be buying a car (to say nothing of a house, which I'm also doing).

Same dealer had a 2019 Golf R with 24k priced at $41k.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Rusty posted:

I was also offered 10k over what I owe on my GTI from Carvana and would probably take it if they had any Golf Rs for trade.

if i didn't love my R so much, I'd consider talking to you, lol, because I'd only trade it for a cheaper and less gas-hungry GTI

Rusty
Sep 28, 2001
Dinosaur Gum
It amazes me that Golf Rs not only held their value, but have increased in price and are basically impossible to find at least around me. The ones that get listed on Carvana are sold almost right away. I love my GTI, but an AWD version would be so nice to have.

Styles Bitchley
Nov 13, 2004

FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN
seen new GTIs in autobahn trim with asking price of $39k USD

:lol:

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


Rusty posted:

It amazes me that Golf Rs not only held their value, but have increased in price and are basically impossible to find at least around me. The ones that get listed on Carvana or sold almost right away. I love my GTI, but an AWD version would be so nice to have.

Yeah, I bought mine the day I saw it, and I know it would have moved instantly.

i'll also be its last owner. it's just that good.

DoesNotCompute
Apr 10, 2006

Big Wiener.

Rusty posted:

It amazes me that Golf Rs not only held their value, but have increased in price and are basically impossible to find at least around me. The ones that get listed on Carvana are sold almost right away. I love my GTI, but an AWD version would be so nice to have.

I was in the market for a '17-'19 Golf R a few months ago and ended upgoing for a '17 A4 because it was cheaper, with better interest rates through Audi finance. Just ridiculous. Very happy with it though, got my 2L turbo and AWD in the end.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

DoesNotCompute posted:

I was in the market for a '17-'19 Golf R a few months ago and ended upgoing for a '17 A4 because it was cheaper, with better interest rates through Audi finance. Just ridiculous. Very happy with it though, got my 2L turbo and AWD in the end.

Audi is in a really, really weird sales position, selling both fairly cheap AWD performance cars that compete with VW AND competing directly with Porsche with high end, high price cars.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

I brought my 2011 a4 avant into an actual german car mechanic, just wanted to ask about two things they said that needed to be addressed:

brake fluid system flush
replace OEM magnetic cam

total cost was 150 and 1080 respectively. does this seem reasonable? for the latter they mentioned something about oil starting to drip and it could get on the belt, causing major issues, if I don't get it fixed.

it looks like there are several parts involved for the second item

magnet update (?)
housing connector
camshaft seal outer
timing cover gasket
camshaft adjuster ma... (cut off but I assume magnet?)

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

CommieGIR posted:

Audi is in a really, really weird sales position, selling both fairly cheap AWD performance cars that compete with VW AND competing directly with Porsche with high end, high price cars.

It's probably something to do with selling the brand as much as it is the cars themselves.

Some people want an Audi badge even if it's pretty much the same car as the VW (S3 hatch vs Golf R) and are willing to pay a bit more for it, so why not sell it to them? Some people also don't want to be seen driving a Porsche Macan but are willing to drive the marginally less Bourgeoisie Audi SQ7.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

So the previous owner of my car spent way too much on kinda dumb carbon fiber exterior accessories.

Since I've had the car, so about 4 years, I've noticed the clearcoat getting worse and worse on these side mirror housings.



I decided yesterday to look into refinishing them because I had nothing else to really get done and was feeling adventurous. I ended up using 400, 800, 1200 grit sandpaper to take down the clearcoat, and reapplied 3-4 layers of a gloss UV-resistant clearcoat:



I'm waiting for 4-5 more hours today for it to be a full 24hours, then will wetsand/polish with 3000 grit and reinstall.

It wasn't the hardest thing in the world although I didn't impress my partner by spraying clearcoat in the living room of our apartment.

Besides those, he also bought carbon fiber eyelid things which I didn't really mind the look of - however after one front corner of my car had some bodywork done, the piece fell off of one side. It left a pretty ugly amount of resin/epoxy on the top of the headlight which is visible slightly even with the hood down so I've ordered some other ones for 1/4 the price that look exactly the same as the OSIR ones. The plan is to confirm they look identical and to replace the one that's missing so I'm not staring at the epoxy on the headlight housing.

VelociBacon fucked around with this message at 18:04 on May 14, 2021

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

actionjackson posted:

I brought my 2011 a4 avant into an actual german car mechanic, just wanted to ask about two things they said that needed to be addressed:

brake fluid system flush
replace OEM magnetic cam

total cost was 150 and 1080 respectively. does this seem reasonable? for the latter they mentioned something about oil starting to drip and it could get on the belt, causing major issues, if I don't get it fixed.

it looks like there are several parts involved for the second item

magnet update (?)
housing connector
camshaft seal outer
timing cover gasket
camshaft adjuster ma... (cut off but I assume magnet?)

I'll be curious what the experts around these parts think, but the magnetic camshaft adjuster does seem like a common problem for the A4, though it sounds like it's usually paired with an EPC (Engine Problem Code).

The brake fluid flush is fair and $30 less than I paid at the dealer, and should be done if it hasn't been in the last two years. I wouldn't blame you for seeking a second opinion on the camshaft replacement though. I think you're in the Twin Cities, so I'll throw out a recommendation for Good Carma for another Audi/VW specialty shop. They're pretty open to chatting on the phone too in my experience.

And VelociBacon, those mirrors look great. I'm still developing my spraying skills with scale models.

teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy
I've got noob wheel questions if I could please? Part of getting a GTI in white was to get white wheels to go along - changed my mind into thinking it was too much of a kid toy car look but I'm back to thinking it's a cool idea seeing white Rotiform RSEs on one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIecxhnEt-U. Wish there was more footage of driving it around, bummer.

I don't know how wheel pricing works and I'm in no rush at all so wondering the 'best' way to try and buy them - if there's a good way to watch for them to be on sale, or if that's even much of a thing, has COVID jacked everything up that I should just chill on the idea for 6+ months, if I'm open to used is it worth trying to look at Ebay or Craigslist or anything (I'm assuming not)?
For the OEM wheels I don't drive in snow so don't see a need to keep them and hope I could get some cash to help recoup cost - uhh ebay? Craigslist or FB marketplace? Local wheel store kind of places I see on FB? Or depending on how much I may get for them, and if I'm hoping to do some track driving some day, maybe better just to keep them to put track tires on to swap for track days?

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

nitsuga posted:

I'll be curious what the experts around these parts think, but the magnetic camshaft adjuster does seem like a common problem for the A4, though it sounds like it's usually paired with an EPC (Engine Problem Code).

The brake fluid flush is fair and $30 less than I paid at the dealer, and should be done if it hasn't been in the last two years. I wouldn't blame you for seeking a second opinion on the camshaft replacement though. I think you're in the Twin Cities, so I'll throw out a recommendation for Good Carma for another Audi/VW specialty shop. They're pretty open to chatting on the phone too in my experience.

And VelociBacon, those mirrors look great. I'm still developing my spraying skills with scale models.

thanks for the recommendation, I just talked to Good Carma and will send in some info. The person on the phone seemed a bit... surprised? by the recommended repair, not sure.

actionjackson fucked around with this message at 20:03 on May 14, 2021

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

Murgos posted:

It's probably something to do with selling the brand as much as it is the cars themselves.

Some people want an Audi badge even if it's pretty much the same car as the VW (S3 hatch vs Golf R) and are willing to pay a bit more for it, so why not sell it to them? Some people also don't want to be seen driving a Porsche Macan but are willing to drive the marginally less Bourgeoisie Audi SQ7.

A Macan is a Q5. I have one as a loaner at the moment while the garage is changing my wheels over (no idea why this takes over the weekend).

I don't really buy into the idea of a "sporty" SUV and looking at the Audi website the Q5 interior is significantly nicer than the Porsche. I guess the brand differentiation is Porsche = sport focused with a bit of luxury and Audi = luxury with a bit of sport.

I'd take a Q5 and a bunch of money over a Macan. Or more likely a Kodiak and an old Boxster.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

They had a 2000 S4 in that bright yellow at the mechanic that thing is dope as hell looking

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

actionjackson posted:

thanks for the recommendation, I just talked to Good Carma and will send in some info. The person on the phone seemed a bit... surprised? by the recommended repair, not sure.

No problem. If it’s who I’m thinking of, I feel like I can always tell how they feel about what I’m telling them too. But yeah, totally worth seeking a second opinion. I’d probably be happier and have more money if I did it more often myself.

rope kid
Feb 3, 2001

Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

Murgos posted:

Some people want an Audi badge even if it's pretty much the same car as the VW (S3 hatch vs Golf R)
The Mk. IV R32 vs. TT 3.2 was the perfect example of this. Less practical car in every way, marginally nicer interior trim... +$10k.

actionjackson posted:

They had a 2000 S4 in that bright yellow at the mechanic that thing is dope as hell looking
I miss the B5 and B6 S4s. I barely ever see either of them around. The Imola Yellow was a nice look.



E: Though honestly I always wanted the Cactus Green just to be weird.

TheBacon
Feb 8, 2012

#essereFerrari

knox_harrington posted:

A Macan is a Q5. I have one as a loaner at the moment while the garage is changing my wheels over (no idea why this takes over the weekend).

I don't really buy into the idea of a "sporty" SUV and looking at the Audi website the Q5 interior is significantly nicer than the Porsche. I guess the brand differentiation is Porsche = sport focused with a bit of luxury and Audi = luxury with a bit of sport.

I'd take a Q5 and a bunch of money over a Macan. Or more likely a Kodiak and an old Boxster.

Well it's a completely redone by Porsche Q5, actually proper suspension and moved the engine to not do the audi overhang and a lot lot lot of re-engineering to make it actually dynamic

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

TheBacon posted:

Well it's a completely redone by Porsche Q5, actually proper suspension and moved the engine to not do the audi overhang and a lot lot lot of re-engineering to make it actually dynamic

Well OK that's great, but it doesn't drive anything like as well as a proper Porsche, and I have to rev the tits off it to make it go at all quickly, so what's the point?

e: maybe if I could try a Turbo or GTS it would make more sense but there's no way I'd chuck money at this one I'm driving.

knox_harrington fucked around with this message at 22:31 on May 14, 2021

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Murgos posted:

It's probably something to do with selling the brand as much as it is the cars themselves.

To build a brand and brand loyalty, you've first got to offer something people can afford and not just continually chop models because they don't have the same ROI as your top end offerings.

Looking at you, Ford and GM

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

Proud Christian Mom posted:

To build a brand and brand loyalty, you've first got to offer something people can afford and not just continually chop models because they don't have the same ROI as your top end offerings.

Looking at you, Ford and GM

Also, see the humble Golf. :-/

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

rope kid posted:

I miss the B5 and B6 S4s. I barely ever see either of them around. The Imola Yellow was a nice look.


one of my dad's many audis was a nogaro blue s4 avant, either 2000 or within a year of that

from a design perspective, my favorite wagon would be that color on the 1995 rs2 avant. I absolutely love those headlights, and in general I love the 1990s styling, 90 degree angles >>> curves

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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

VelociBacon posted:

So the previous owner of my car spent way too much on kinda dumb carbon fiber exterior accessories.

Since I've had the car, so about 4 years, I've noticed the clearcoat getting worse and worse on these side mirror housings.



I decided yesterday to look into refinishing them because I had nothing else to really get done and was feeling adventurous. I ended up using 400, 800, 1200 grit sandpaper to take down the clearcoat, and reapplied 3-4 layers of a gloss UV-resistant clearcoat:



I'm waiting for 4-5 more hours today for it to be a full 24hours, then will wetsand/polish with 3000 grit and reinstall.

It wasn't the hardest thing in the world although I didn't impress my partner by spraying clearcoat in the living room of our apartment.

Besides those, he also bought carbon fiber eyelid things which I didn't really mind the look of - however after one front corner of my car had some bodywork done, the piece fell off of one side. It left a pretty ugly amount of resin/epoxy on the top of the headlight which is visible slightly even with the hood down so I've ordered some other ones for 1/4 the price that look exactly the same as the OSIR ones. The plan is to confirm they look identical and to replace the one that's missing so I'm not staring at the epoxy on the headlight housing.

Today finished this up, With just the clearcoat sprays I had a very eggshell/bumpy texture:



looked like this after hitting it with wet 3k grit:



Then applied wax, buffed off and got this result:



Everything went back on the car, pretty happy with the result:





Not entirely my kinda look but I don't mind it on the white car.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

nitsuga posted:

The brake fluid flush is fair and $30 less than I paid at the dealer, and should be done if it hasn't been in the last two years.

Second opinion: When I was last at my German car specialist mechanic, they were charging $90/hour for labor (in a cheap place to live), so $150 for a brake fluid flush also seems reasonable to me.

MunchE
Sep 7, 2000

Murgos posted:

It's probably something to do with selling the brand as much as it is the cars themselves.

Some people want an Audi badge even if it's pretty much the same car as the VW (S3 hatch vs Golf R) and are willing to pay a bit more for it, so why not sell it to them? Some people also don't want to be seen driving a Porsche Macan but are willing to drive the marginally less Bourgeoisie Audi SQ7.

Fun fact, a buddy of mine when he bought his Golf R test drove an S3 hatch because the VW dealer gave him so much hassle about trying to drive their "sport" model. He ended up buying the VW

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

knox_harrington posted:

Well OK that's great, but it doesn't drive anything like as well as a proper Porsche, and I have to rev the tits off it to make it go at all quickly, so what's the point?

e: maybe if I could try a Turbo or GTS it would make more sense but there's no way I'd chuck money at this one I'm driving.

it's not really a real porsche but that's kind of the wrong direction of comparison. it's a much better Q5 for not all that much more money. from that perspective it makes a lot more sense

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

in regards to my oil leak issue, the second place (who will look at it soon) did say that over time the oil can leak onto whatever belt controls the alternator and such, not sure what it's called (timing belt?)

seems like the issue is often the camshaft seal becoming worn down over time

I have also read that another symptom of this issue can be rough idling, and my vehicle definitely has some of that!

actionjackson fucked around with this message at 02:55 on May 15, 2021

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

That makes a lot more sense to me. Sounds like it’s the serpentine belt that gets covered in oil, at least once it’s gets real bad. I’m no Audi expert, but it does seem to fit what you’re describing.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

rope kid posted:

The Mk. IV R32 vs. TT 3.2 was the perfect example of this. Less practical car in every way, marginally nicer interior trim... +$10k.
I miss the B5 and B6 S4s. I barely ever see either of them around. The Imola Yellow was a nice look.





Reminds me of my 99.5 A4... I sold it in 2007. The A4 came in "brilliant yellow"... I think the Imola is a bit of a nicer yellow, but honestly, the B5 platform A4/S4 is one of my favorite Audi designs.

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actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

nitsuga posted:

That makes a lot more sense to me. Sounds like it’s the serpentine belt that gets covered in oil, at least once it’s gets real bad. I’m no Audi expert, but it does seem to fit what you’re describing.

okay thanks, I looked up this B8 diagram - it's not labeled, but I put an arrow about where this magnetic camshaft is, at least from what I recall them pointing at. I assume the serpentine belt is right below that on the "front" of the engine.

I'm wondering if that camshaft gasket goes on that circle thing my arrow is pointing to

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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Kashwashwa posted:

Reminds me of my 99.5 A4... I sold it in 2007. The A4 came in "brilliant yellow"... I think the Imola is a bit of a nicer yellow, but honestly, the B5 platform A4/S4 is one of my favorite Audi designs.


my B5.5 came in this shade (not my pic) and I miss it very much



that steering was wonderfully heavy

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nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

actionjackson posted:

okay thanks, I looked up this B8 diagram - it's not labeled, but I put an arrow about where this magnetic camshaft is, at least from what I recall them pointing at. I assume the serpentine belt is right below that on the "front" of the engine.

I'm wondering if that camshaft gasket goes on that circle thing my arrow is pointing to



The serpentine belt is the rubber belt that drives the alternator, A/C compressor. Definitely going to defer to what the mechanics have to say on it, but if a leak from a seal is getting oil onto your serpentine belt it's definitely worth addressing sooner than later. FWIW, that's a V6 Audi in the diagram. I'm not sure whether or not yours but if it is, I think they'd call that a balance shaft. It helps to smooth the timing chain's motion with its counterweights.

I was under the impression it's the I4 2.0T, and if that's the case, I think you're looking at part 18 in the diagram here: https://parts.audiusa.com/a/Audi_20...IN/F201030.html

In either case, it's not going to be a cheap repair, but it's one you want done well and diagnosed properly.

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