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wilderthanmild posted:The dumbest part is that even this stupid cutoff would be fine, if they didn't treat it as some binary state of being where TB and measles are airborne, but every other disease moves only 6 feet and falls out of the air. Basically they took two extreme ends of a spectrum and said it's one or the other. Early in the pandemic I'd assumed this 6 foot rule of thumb they were using was based on some actual understanding of this virus, not some outdated one size fits all rule. Turns out they were dumb as hell and had been dumb about other diseases for decades as this same issue had been raised with flu, chickenpox, etc and nothing had ever moved. This is somewhat distressing as I heard something about this from a Trumper, like, 2 months+ ago who I assumed got it from Newsmax or OAN so I mentally dismissed it immediately.
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xcheopis posted:Thanks for the article! can confirm. I have a transplant patient parent who has two negative tests for antibodies after vaccination and now i guess will never live normally again? i don't know.
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Saros posted:They've known since at least 5th May what a bad idea reopening on the current schedule is if the Indian variant is even a bit more transmissible. it seems clear from the projections that the only decision that will have any effect on another maximum wave is postponing this monday's reopening phase, not june's. but they aren't considering doing that and we will definitely have another terrible spike. am i misreading this? i get frustrated when people act like this is negligence or mistakes from the government. this has happened three times now. they are doing it consciously. the reopening rollout dates were always subject to change if new variants arose. they aren't changing it, just like they blew it twice in the fall and just like they locked down three weeks too late a year ago. at this stage it is active malice, not incompetence.
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May 15, 2021 18:29
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:can confirm. I have a transplant patient parent who has two negative tests for antibodies after vaccination and now i guess will never live normally again? i don't know.  Here's hoping your parent is still protected!
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May 15, 2021 19:07
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Charliegrs posted:God help us if there starts to be an uptick in cases after the CDCs idiotic decision today because there's no way they are going to reverse the decision and even if they did the cats out of the bag people won't be putting their masks back on. If it makes you guys feel better half the country at this point had already told the CDC to go gently caress itself and either got rid of any mask mandates or put in even more stringent mandates. Given how many people have already got Covid-19, how many people are fully vaccinated, and we are going into summer when people are outdoors more, one has to ask how high of an uptick are you guys expecting? If you are expecting this to result in covid-19 corpses floating down the Mississippi River then I'd say you are being a little too pessimistic
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May 15, 2021 19:42
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mikemil828 posted:If it makes you guys feel better half the country at this point had already told the CDC to go gently caress itself and either got rid of any mask mandates or put in even more stringent mandates. Given how many people have already got Covid-19, how many people are fully vaccinated, and we are going into summer when people are outdoors more, one has to ask how high of an uptick are you guys expecting? If you are expecting this to result in covid-19 corpses floating down the Mississippi River then I'd say you are being a little too pessimistic I'm not expecting anything like that. Hell, we probably won't have an uptick at all. But if we do I would expect it to be a reverse in the downward trend we've been on, which would be really depressing and make the CDC look really bad. But you're right, half the country never gave a poo poo to begin with so I guess the CDC decided to read the room and wave the white flag.
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freebooter posted:Get ready for the part of the pandemic in which the developed world goes back to normal and there are stricter-than-ever border controls with the developing world! build the wall
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Fallom posted:I don’t think it’s going to mean poo poo tbh The kind of people who won't get vaccinated mostly weren't wearing masks unless absolutely forced, so... Yeah. I don't think we'll have much of an uptick, if any. Looking at the CDC trend graphs, I suspect we would have had a massive fourth wave of cases in the US this Spring if vaccines hadn't become widely available. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendscases You can see where the case count drops off after the holiday outbreaks, then plateaus and even trends up slightly for a few weeks before slowly but steadily falling off. We got lucky with vaccine timing and probably headed off probably another couple hundred thousand deaths. Barring a highly vaccine-resistant variant catching on, I'm optimistic that the downward trend in the US will continue through the summer, regardless of mask and distancing policy changes.
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:can confirm. I have a transplant patient parent who has two negative tests for antibodies after vaccination and now i guess will never live normally again? i don't know. I'm on a common medication for transplant recipients but for a non-transplant reason. Thankfully my specialist just told me they're not seeing unusually poor outcomes for COVID patients with my condition, even having some asymptomatic cases. But she agreed that the vaccination was unlikely to be protective. And neither my specialist or my GP has shown any interest in getting me tested for antibodies or talking about a third shot, for some reason. I might just get the rapid antibody test from the pharmacy to see if I hit the 50/50 mentioned in that study, but those test are pretty inaccurate as I understand. I do remember having some swollen lymph nodes in my neck the night I got my second pfizer shot so maybe I got lucky. I've been only in contact with vaccinated people who themselves are being careful (staying masked whenever around non-vaccinated people) so I have two layers around me, so to speak. But if work starts calling people back in I'm not sure what I'll do. The building I'm in and the bathrooms in my area are shared by tons of people and certainly has a high percentage of anti-vaxxers who will be eager to claim they are so they can take off the masks. Rescue Toaster fucked around with this message at 20:11 on May 15, 2021 |
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May 15, 2021 20:08
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WhiteHowler posted:The kind of people who won't get vaccinated mostly weren't wearing masks unless absolutely forced, so... Yeah. I talked about this in the old thread and that was my conclusion about why Michigan had that big wave that seemingly never started anywhere else. It just started earlier there and never really had the chance to pick up steam before vaccination rates made those steep increases less likely. Combine that with less favorable conditions in the spring and I think we won't see another big wave until winter, or a significant variant kicks our rear end.
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May 15, 2021 21:52
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Do NOT combine the Antibody of Christ with the holy Eucharist...
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:America in 2 images This guy is so close to understanding that governments don’t give a poo poo about marginalised groups here but instead he’s taken it to mean...?????
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May 15, 2021 22:14
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If you have Jesus antibodies, that means you would have a reaction to communion.
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May 15, 2021 22:21
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One's a drunk, the other likes carbs, and I'm the holy ghost
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May 15, 2021 22:32
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Today I cut myself and got 6 stitches at the urgent care. When I thanked the doctor for sewing me up he thanked me for giving him something non-covid to do. Please everyone remember to support your local emergency doctors through minor injury.
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poverty goat posted:Today I cut myself and got 6 stitches at the urgent care. When I thanked the doctor for sewing me up he thanked me for giving him something non-covid to do. Please everyone remember to support your local emergency doctors through minor injury. No gently caress you I stubbed my toe (maybe broke it I don't know I'm not a fancy doctor) and stayed at home. Some of us aren't sheeple who have fallen for the idea that doctors serve a purpose.
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Show me that on a Wednesday or a Thursday and I will be so excited. Cases report slower on the weekends. But drat I'm glad it's still goin' down.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:Show me that on a Wednesday or a Thursday and I will be so excited. Cases report slower on the weekends. But drat I'm glad it's still goin' down. That's the moving average I believe. Everywhere I check shows the 7 day average, which is not impacted by weekends.
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wilderthanmild posted:That's the moving average I believe. Everywhere I check shows the 7 day average, which is not impacted by weekends. Yeah, whenever they’re reporting on daily averages it’s always a rolling 7 day period that’s used.
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May 16, 2021 00:24
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I cant wait for the hottest and most fashionable syndrome 2022: PCSD (post covid stress disorder) and its inevitable insurance code denial.
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satanic splash-back posted:I cant wait for the hottest and most fashionable syndrome 2022: PCSD (post covid stress disorder) and its inevitable insurance code denial. Honestly this might be a thing in several flavors. Once I was 2 weeks past my second shot I felt really relieved and elated for about a week. It was like surviving a life or death situation. I had accepted that Covid might ravage my family and kill me and was doing the best I could to live safely for a year. Now that it didn’t and I’m unlikely to get it (hopefully) I’m having a weird mix of survivors guilt and stress about life, death, and what the gently caress am I going to do. I actually went to get some mental help because I haven’t had depression and anxiety like this in a decade or more.
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Lawlicaust posted:Honestly this might be a thing in several flavors. Once I was 2 weeks past my second shot I felt really relieved and elated for about a week. It was like surviving a life or death situation. I had accepted that Covid might ravage my family and kill me and was doing the best I could to live safely for a year. Now that it didn’t and I’m unlikely to get it (hopefully) I’m having a weird mix of survivors guilt and stress about life, death, and what the gently caress am I going to do. I actually went to get some mental help because I haven’t had depression and anxiety like this in a decade or more. Good on you for recognizing it and getting help. I think after the last year, there are probably millions of people who could really, really use some therapy to cope with what we all just went through (and are still going through, but at least maybe the end - or an end - is in sight now).
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Rescue Toaster posted:But if work starts calling people back in I'm not sure what I'll do. Ask for accommodation of your disability.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:Is "normal" where people go "oh yeah my 37 year old friend got covid and he's in the hospital but whatever" while they eat buffalo wild wings and also get covid? Oh, I'm talking like 2022-2025ish (or perhaps beyond!). America probably still has another wave in it, but if we're going to reach herd immunity it's absolutely going to be limited to rich countries for several years to come.
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freebooter posted:Oh, I'm talking like 2022-2025ish (or perhaps beyond!). America probably still has another wave in it, but if we're going to reach herd immunity it's absolutely going to be limited to rich countries for several years to come. It definitely is. WhiteHowler posted:Good on you for recognizing it and getting help. What most people need is a government and a systemic establishment actually trying to defeat this thing instead of throwing up their hands.
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May 16, 2021 01:43
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:America in 2 images Bill got his AIDS antibodies the old fashion way.
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May 16, 2021 03:56
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Spalec posted:Got my first vaccine today Cut it off.
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Been fully vaccinated since early april, went out to dinner at a restaurant for the first time in a year tonight. First time in a year I've been in public without a mask on, felt weird!
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I know other people have been for months but I just started doing all my walks and exercising and everything outside maskless It it feels so great. The flowers and trees are so beautiful Im grateful
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hakimashou posted:Been fully vaccinated since early april, went out to dinner at a restaurant for the first time in a year tonight. First time in a year I've been in public without a mask on, felt weird!
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May 16, 2021 05:45
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I've been fully vaccinated since early March and have been out to restaurants a few times, and it's still weird.
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Had our first get-together with friends since January 2020, at a friend's house. It was everyone else's (11 total people including us) first time getting together too. We're all vaccinated and it was just great. Felt novel, but not weird.
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Most of my state is only 25% vacced and my county is among the highest at just under 32%. I'm keeping a mask on, doing what I've been doing, for at least the next two weeks to see where the numbers end up. Our 7 day rolling average is still over 1700 cases which is pretty loving high IMO.
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