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Erased from history like he was in the background of a Stalin photo.
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May 15, 2021 07:47
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WarpedNaba posted:Yeah, they don't do the common folk a lick of good, do they. Those, uh... Thanks to satellites we can shitpost from our toilets at all hours at the speed of light so really they are a net harm on society.
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May 15, 2021 19:01
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WarpedNaba posted:Yeah, they don't do the common folk a lick of good, do they. Those, uh... geostationary are great but the LEO ones are just for cops
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May 16, 2021 12:04
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yeah, all satellite commercial business is military use first and then civilian use for leftovers. starlink's main contracts are gonna be military for a long while, forex
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May 16, 2021 12:06
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WarpedNaba posted:What, we forget R Guyovich already? They're still around and posting in CSPAM threads where genocide is considered cool as long as the people doing it have the correct performative ideology.
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May 16, 2021 13:50
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Megillah Gorilla posted:They're still around and posting in CSPAM threads where genocide is considered cool as long as the people doing it have the correct performative ideology. Wonder if I caught his alt when I was filling my ignore list with genocidal psychopaths.
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May 16, 2021 17:30
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Mars exploration is for the study of Mars, which is good because knowledge and discovery is inherently good. Not because it will help us build cities on Mars which is a tech bro pipe dream (tech bros hate science and exploration; they like money and sci fi aesthetics)
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May 16, 2021 19:34
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Plus, it's still a bit of a mystery as to why its magnetic field went bork. We know the core's practically dead, but why?
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May 16, 2021 20:30
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I thought we knew: the size of planet just meant it cooled faster than Earth, which killed the field. I re learn that in coll when I took a course just called "Mars."
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May 16, 2021 21:16
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Mars also seems to have a lighter core than usual, iron-sulfur instead of iron-nickel. And it may not have a solid inner core at all, just a liquid one. There's still a lot of details to figure out, but yeah, Mars is smaller so it cooled faster and shut down the dynamo is the most likely broad explanation.
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May 16, 2021 21:23
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May 17, 2021 00:52
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Oh gently caress….. Well that shouldn’t happen.
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May 17, 2021 01:16
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Grand Fromage posted:Wonder if I caught his alt when I was filling my ignore list with genocidal psychopaths. He already got one alt busted when someone caught him using the exact same phrase to try and zing a non-tankie, something like "mom! dad! there are stalinists under my bed!" Is he back with yet another??
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May 17, 2021 01:17
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Porfiriato posted:He already got one alt busted when someone caught him using the exact same phrase to try and zing a non-tankie, something like "mom! dad! there are stalinists under my bed!" Is he back with yet another?? I do not know nor do I give anywhere close to enough a poo poo to try to find out.
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May 17, 2021 01:21
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I'd like to file a report with OSHA. For just, the entire country of China
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May 17, 2021 01:35
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I'm sure it's not that important
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May 17, 2021 01:55
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For something that looks so mundane on the surface, this is really terrifying.
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May 17, 2021 01:58
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The junk collector posted:I'm sure it's not that important The building staying in one piece after it fell over is actually kind of impressive.
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May 17, 2021 02:21
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The building staying in one piece after it fell over is actually kind of impressive.
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May 17, 2021 02:23
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The building staying in one piece after it fell over is actually kind of impressive. It's a disaster, but it's a pretty disaster
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May 17, 2021 02:52
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ninjoatse.cx posted:It's a disaster, but it's a pretty disaster Someone ring up the PRC tourism department I've got a great idea for a slogan
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May 17, 2021 02:54
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Porfiriato posted:He already got one alt busted when someone caught him using the exact same phrase to try and zing a non-tankie, something like "mom! dad! there are stalinists under my bed!" Is he back with yet another?? Well, he's hardly trying to hide it. His username is something like R.Guy Mann. Though speaking of hilarious tankies, one got run out of the AusPol thread for the inevitable genocide denialism and immediately (once they got off probation for same) started a new AusPol thread in CSPAM where genocide is cool and good and the whole OP is just whining about being probed. Just so loving salty. The whole "China is perfect and has never and will never do wrong" mindset just loving baffles me. Every single country in the world has blood on its hands and I couldn't even name one which isn't plunging its hands into the blood trough to add more as we speak. Politicians are amoral morons. Companies are all run by monsters. Whole world is a gently caress. But US is bad, therefore China is good and perfect. It's the sort of black and white thinking you expect to see in a 12 year old who has just found a tattered old copy of Das Kapital and bought their first black beret and duffle coat and runs around telling everyone all property is theft and life would be perfect is only we all lived in collectives. Less understandable in people in their 30s and 40s.
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May 17, 2021 04:36
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It's the reasoning of a child combined with not knowing anything. Just the most basic, easily researched facts. One example I see frequently is the belief China has universal healthcare, which you would expect an actual socialist country to have. China, of course, does not--its healthcare system is virtually identical to the US and people in the PRC routinely have their lives destroyed by medical bills just like Americans. Those stories you hear where someone flips out and stabs a bunch of doctors in a hospital in China? That's almost always someone with unpayable medical debt going the murder-suicide route. There are a thousand other examples of ignoring simple information to construct this mental image of China as a magical land where everything is great rather than a country with tons of problems and many of the same lovely parts as everywhere. But that would require being able to handle nuance, which seems to be actively despised when you get too online. Maybe it's from reading so much history but I cannot fathom the impulse to relentlessly stan any country or government. There are degrees of awfulness but every government in history is out for itself first and foremost.
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May 17, 2021 04:55
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Megillah Gorilla posted:It's the sort of black and white thinking you expect to see in a 12 year old who has just found a tattered old copy of Das Kapital and bought their first black beret and duffle coat and runs around telling everyone all property is theft and life would be perfect is only we all lived in collectives.
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May 17, 2021 05:05
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Grand Fromage posted:
Ravel Puzzlewell posted:There is no room for "2" in the world of 1's and 0's, no place for "mayhap" in a house of trues and falses, and no "green with envy" in a black-and-white world.
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May 17, 2021 05:47
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Yo any pictures from the Chinese rover yet? I wanna see the PRC territory they’ve claimed.
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MarcusSA posted:Yo any pictures from the Chinese rover yet? how many dashes to mars?
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MarcusSA posted:Yo any pictures from the Chinese rover yet? Nope, nothing since the landing announcement.
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Fojar38 posted:Someone ring up the PRC tourism department I've got a great idea for a slogan i think they've already settled on "visit beautiful switzerland"
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May 17, 2021 05:57
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Grand Fromage posted:Nope, nothing since the landing announcement. drat! Hopefully we see something.
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May 17, 2021 05:58
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MarcusSA posted:drat! Hopefully we see something. Yeah. There are basically three possibilities: A) They received images but haven't released anything because the Chinese space agency is very secretive/wants to make a big show of it. B) They may not have been able to get images back yet. NASA can do data links to Mars more or less any time they want because they have dishes all around the globe and enough satellites in Mars orbit to relay signals. I have no idea what ground links China has but it's possible they only are in China, so they're only pointed the right direction part of the time. They also only have the Tianwen satellite at Mars to do relays, and it appears it had to use an elliptical orbit to drop off the rover. Since transmissions have to be in line of sight it's possible they just haven't had the relays lined up yet. C) The probe isn't working and they're trying to get it fixed before they have to embarrass themselves announcing it failed. I suspect it's A but no way to know for sure yet.
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May 17, 2021 06:03
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Never even thought about China not having dishes dotted around the globe. I wonder if satellites would be able to receive the signals well enough or if you really do need huge dishes to pick up the incredibly faint transmissions. Maybe they could repurpose some of their spy ships? 
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May 17, 2021 06:09
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the state is the organization with the monopoly on violence. that means they're the best at violence in the territory. if you're even slightly mediocre at doin violence some other basher kills you and becomes the new state
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May 17, 2021 06:09
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MarcusSA posted:Yo any pictures from the Chinese rover yet? LOL! Yeah, uh, it totally survived unscathed and made beautiful pictures. Simply amazing scientific discoveries!
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May 17, 2021 06:11
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah. There are basically three possibilities: I hadn’t even thought about the Communcations issue. Interesting stuff. Hopefully it’s A like you said and we see an interesting picture or two
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May 17, 2021 06:12
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Never even thought about China not having dishes dotted around the globe. I wonder if satellites would be able to receive the signals well enough or if you really do need huge dishes to pick up the incredibly faint transmissions. I'm not sure if satellites work. The Deep Space Network is all ground stations, but you need absolutely massive dishes to be able to get signals from probes like Voyager I. Voyager I's transmitter is 22 watts and at its distance the signal that reaches Earth is ~0.0000000000000000007 watts. Mars is obviously way closer so it's not that weak, but I have no idea what Chinese comms satellites are working with.
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It would be fun if a Chinese rover and an American rover met up and shook little robot hands.
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