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CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
For that amount of money go for a prebuild, it's the only way to get a GPU at a non insane price. That GPU is supposed to retail for what, half that, the 3080 launched at less than 820 quid and is MUCH MUCH more performant.

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CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
like, something like this:

https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-corsair-4000d-airflow-rgb-ryzen-5-3600-6-core-4.2ghz-nvidia-rtx-3070-8gb-desktop-pc-for-gaming.html

has some poo poo in there I don't think is optimal but on the other hand it's a 3070

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
specifically I'd up the ram to 3200 and 16 gigs for a total of 1445ish? and that was just from ten minutes on HotUKDeals while phoneposting.

you are on a position some would be envious of - you need a total upgrade and as such can actually buy a GPU via a premade. things are adequately bad that people are literally buying premades to shuck the loving GPU and resell all the other components at a loss. it's crazy out there take advantage as best you can.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
or, buy a premade, and literally get the entire thing with a 1660 super for less than the price of that 1660 super god loving drat is the GPU situation hilarious rn lmao

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/aw...aign=2021-05-17

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Are people getting those premades at a reasonable time?

A friend tried going that route for a 3080, and at first they told him 2 months. 2 months later they told him it'd be another 8 months.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

BrainDance posted:

Are people getting those premades at a reasonable time?

A friend tried going that route for a 3080, and at first they told him 2 months. 2 months later they told him it'd be another 8 months.

first one I linked is "in stock", second I thought it was but checking it's not. still, poke around scan, AWD IT or similar and you will find poo poo available if you look.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

BrainDance posted:

Are people getting those premades at a reasonable time?

A friend tried going that route for a 3080, and at first they told him 2 months. 2 months later they told him it'd be another 8 months.

I was able to get a CyberpowerPC through Best Buy with a 3070 by bookmarking the page and just checking it all the time and got lucky one weekday morning. Arrived at the store to pickup in 4 days. Check my previous posts. Still working great!

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic
I decided to order a prebuilt about six months ago and simply signing up for notifications to like thirty places. After a few months of two to four hours of sleep a few days over December and a period of four 1/2 days with none at all I wound up slipping into psychosis and after ect and med changes and sedation, I got a prebuilt ibuypower with a 3070 and even with the custom psu upgrade I had it here, with ALL TotL parts a week later. I paid a premium, but it was worth it because I got the whole thing for the price of a scapler’s 3080.

I rebuilt my last generation computer (GTX 970) just for something to try new/old operating systems on and gently caress around with old games and programs. I also found my old Ubuntu 8.14 DVD that Canonical mailed me because back then my data cap meant it would take two or three months to download :argh: ,four if I wanted to spend bandwidth on anything else during the first three.

edit: Satellite internet in a very rural area that couldn’t even hit 28.8Kb with a 56K v.90 over the copper lines was brutal.

DerekSmartymans fucked around with this message at 02:59 on May 17, 2021

RVT
Nov 5, 2003

BrainDance posted:

Are people getting those premades at a reasonable time?

A friend tried going that route for a 3080, and at first they told him 2 months. 2 months later they told him it'd be another 8 months.

Having put in an order for a pre-built about a month ago, I'd be interested to hear more. Which builder was this? When did he order?

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Maybe not relevant to any goons outside of Sweden, but Inet is now claiming to have 100+ RTX 2060s over 2 SKUs in stock for about SEK5100 (~$611). Bad price but maybe having them filter in will help bring down overall prices a little bit.

Pilfered Pallbearers
Aug 2, 2007

RVT posted:

Having put in an order for a pre-built about a month ago, I'd be interested to hear more. Which builder was this? When did he order?

Did you order a pre-built or a custom build from like ibuypower? Most of the prebuilts come from an already existing inventory, while the custom ones come from stock receiving estimates and are much more likely to push.

RVT
Nov 5, 2003

Pilfered Pallbearers posted:

Did you order a pre-built or a custom build from like ibuypower? Most of the prebuilts come from an already existing inventory, while the custom ones come from stock receiving estimates and are much more likely to push.

I ordered a custom build from cyberpower. I figured the almost 3 month lead time they gave me was hopefully pretty conservative. If that's not the case, maybe I just need to start hunting for something ready to ship.

Pilfered Pallbearers
Aug 2, 2007

RVT posted:

I ordered a custom build from cyberpower. I figured the almost 3 month lead time they gave me was hopefully pretty conservative. If that's not the case, maybe I just need to start hunting for something ready to ship.

There’s your problem.

Anything with a lead time more than like 2 weeks is going to face that issue, and carry a frankly pretty high delay risk.

If it’s custom build with 2 week lead time you’re probably fine.

If it’s a ready to ship obviously you’ll be good.

pumpie2
Nov 17, 2009
I hadn't considered a fully built system at all. I'm definitely still in the research stage of a new pc so I'll click around. What would be a reasonable lead time to expect?

RVT
Nov 5, 2003

pumpie2 posted:

I hadn't considered a fully built system at all. I'm definitely still in the research stage of a new pc so I'll click around. What would be a reasonable lead time to expect?

As I'm just finding out, 2 weeks to 12 months depending on what it has in it and whether it is a ready to ship pre-configured deal or a custom build.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

pumpie2 posted:

I hadn't considered a fully built system at all. I'm definitely still in the research stage of a new pc so I'll click around. What would be a reasonable lead time to expect?

normally it would be kind of lateral compared to building with tradeoffs, but as you demonstrated a single component literally costs as much as a full system including that component. it's not normally advice i would give and it's certainly not something i'd normally suggest in the pc building thread but the the GPU shortage is that bad.

depends entirely if it's a prebuild - ie, a fully manufactured device sitting in a box, or a build to order, which can take longer as they are also subject to the same GPU pressures, although they have an enormous advantage. and it depends entirely on the specific company or even what you pay for, some places like Palicomp will let you pay extra to expedite your build. AWD IT are good, CCL or Scan are good but it will take some shopping. i recommend setting an alert for "computers" on hotukdeals, it's all community generated over there and there likely will be someone on the comments giving estimates of shipping.

e: also they will TOTALLY screw you on upselling so having an understanding of what stuff should be worth is valuable, don't bother with most add ins imo.

CoolCab fucked around with this message at 21:55 on May 17, 2021

RVT
Nov 5, 2003

Chinatown posted:

I was able to get a CyberpowerPC through Best Buy with a 3070 by bookmarking the page and just checking it all the time and got lucky one weekday morning. Arrived at the store to pickup in 4 days. Check my previous posts. Still working great!

Is there room in the case to mount any HDDs? Can't tell from the pictures. How much clearance is there for a air cooler? Think I could stick a 212 in there and get rid of the water cooler?



vvvv thanks

RVT fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 17, 2021

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

RVT posted:

Is there room in the case to mount any HDDs? Can't tell from the pictures. How much clearance is there for a air cooler? Think I could stick a 212 in there and get rid of the water cooler?

There's two HDD slots in the bottom accessed from the non-windowed side. 6.5 inches from motherboard surface to window so it would be tight. AIO works fine for me though.

Squatch Ambassador
Nov 12, 2008

What? Never seen a shaved Squatch before?
So I had my Corsair RMx 650 fail over the weekend, and on it's way out it killed an hdd, one of the RAM slots on my mobo, and the RAM that was in that slot. Even worse it happened during a reboot to install Windows updates, and after hooking up my backup power supply it just BSOD on boot. I had to reinstall Win10 because system restore wasn't able to apply the pre-update restore point.

I've already ordered replacement power supply and motherboard. Seasonic Focus +Gold 650, and MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC.

I'm mainly posing here to ask how likely it is that I messed up the power supply when I moved my PC to a new case last week. I was clearing the dust out of the ps while I was moving it, and the compressed air can shot some liquid into the power supply even though I was holding the can level. Could that be what caused the power supply to die? It was working fine for few days afterwards.

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

CoolCab posted:

normally it would be kind of lateral compared to building with tradeoffs, but as you demonstrated a single component literally costs as much as a full system including that component. it's not normally advice i would give and it's certainly not something i'd normally suggest in the pc building thread but the the GPU shortage is that bad.

depends entirely if it's a prebuild - ie, a fully manufactured device sitting in a box, or a build to order, which can take longer as they are also subject to the same GPU pressures, although they have an enormous advantage.

Don’t forget the different car companies buying your quality processor chips and motherfuckin CHI-CHI-CHI-CHIA destroying ssds and buying all the hdd space left to play the lottery for :10bux: or less.

On a personal note I haven’t seen an armadillo on my land since 2020and the fire ant hills are getting huge. Any Amazon Fulfillment Centers drone dropping anteaters from Texas to Tennessee? I’ve got Prime AND kindle unlimited!!!

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Is Chia destroying the storage market yet? All your hardware will eventually scalped to mine crypto.

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!

Nothus posted:

Is Chia destroying the storage market yet? All your hardware will eventually scalped to mine crypto.

Too early to tell, the big cheap externals haven't been on sale for 22 days but that's not unusual. Usually there's a couple of shuckables on sale per month:
https://shucks.top/

Joiny
Aug 9, 2005

Would you like to peruse my wares?
I finally got all my parts and put everything together today.

As a reminder:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.00 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste ($5.94 @ ModMyMods)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($147.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($187.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($299.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($118.89 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion+ 860 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1265.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-17 22:34 EDT-0400



Cat:


Things I love:
-Everything is so quiet. Even under stress testing the whole machine barely makes a peep. God my old computers are so loud.
-RGB is fun and the wife loves it. The regular performance case probably would have been fine though.
-GPU and CPU are remaining quite cool. CPU <50C and GPU<70C. I don't have a new monitor yet so I can only do 1080p output, though I haven't tested the vive yet. I'll probably forego adding the extra fan in the back unless I feel like I need it later.

Things that were a pain:
-Running cables in the lian li wasn't as easy as I thought it would be. I could have chosen a motherboard that has more side-facing inputs instead of top-facing inputs, that would have made running the front panel usb wire and mobo power cords easier.
-Front panel power button and reset button fall apart (not break, just separate from each other) when you install the usb-c cable.
-Small chip in the glass, I'll see if Lian Li will send me a replacement panel.
-Front panel power and reset button are on the top of the case. I did not consider that my cat would love sitting on the top of my computer, so now I need to find a way to cover them.

Overall super happy with it, thanks thread for all the help.

Joiny fucked around with this message at 04:24 on May 18, 2021

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I would really put one rear exhaust fan in. Should help bring temps down further.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



BrainDance posted:

Are people getting those premades at a reasonable time?

A friend tried going that route for a 3080, and at first they told him 2 months. 2 months later they told him it'd be another 8 months.

Corsair has so many 3070s the ran an ad on YouTube promoting that you can buy a prebuilt directly from them with 3070s shipping now.

The 3080 was a paper launch, dont even try.

I'm hoping the 3080Ti exists.

doomrider7
Nov 29, 2018

Joiny posted:

I finally got all my parts and put everything together today.

As a reminder:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.00 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1 g Thermal Paste ($5.94 @ ModMyMods)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard ($147.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($187.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($299.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card
Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($118.89 @ B&H)
Power Supply: Fractal Design Ion+ 860 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($145.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1265.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-05-17 22:34 EDT-0400



Cat:


Things I love:
-Everything is so quiet. Even under stress testing the whole machine barely makes a peep. God my old computers are so loud.
-RGB is fun and the wife loves it. The regular performance case probably would have been fine though.
-GPU and CPU are remaining quite cool. CPU <50C and GPU<70C. I don't have a new monitor yet so I can only do 1080p output, though I haven't tested the vive yet. I'll probably forego adding the extra fan in the back unless I feel like I need it later.

Things that were a pain:
-Running cables in the lian li wasn't as easy as I thought it would be. I could have chosen a motherboard that has more side-facing inputs instead of top-facing inputs, that would have made running the front panel usb wire and mobo power cords easier.
-Front panel power button and reset button fall apart (not break, just separate from each other) when you install the usb-c cable.
-Small chip in the glass, I'll see if Lian Li will send me a replacement panel.
-Front panel power and reset button are on the top of the case. I did not consider that my cat would love sitting on the top of my computer, so now I need to find a way to cover them.

Overall super happy with it, thanks thread for all the help.

How did you get the 3080?

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

doomrider7 posted:

How did you get the 3080?

They walked into a microcentre at 3pm and bought it.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

RVT posted:

Having put in an order for a pre-built about a month ago, I'd be interested to hear more. Which builder was this? When did he order?

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/ These guys, not sure when he ordered but it must have been a couple months ago.

He cancelled it and just settled on a 3070, because that was actually available.

BurritoJustice
Oct 9, 2012

DerekSmartymans posted:

Don’t forget the different car companies buying your quality processor chips and motherfuckin CHI-CHI-CHI-CHIA destroying ssds and buying all the hdd space left to play the lottery for :10bux: or less.

I know you're joking but each block reward is around $3000 right now so it makes sense that people are buying tickets. When my mates gave it a go you would get one a fortnight from a decent external drive, though the network capacity has increased massively since then.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-T5-P...ctronics&sr=1-4

is this a good product/price?

i was gonna hold off on buying an ssd until black friday but i'm hearing that bitcoin dipshits are starting to get their grubby little mitts on hard drives as they have with gpus

DerekSmartymans
Feb 14, 2005

The
Copacetic
Ascetic

Mr Interweb posted:

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-T5-P...ctronics&sr=1-4

is this a good product/price?

i was gonna hold off on buying an ssd until black friday but i'm hearing that bitcoin dipshits are starting to get their grubby little mitts on hard drives as they have with gpus

There are still drives available, but the farmers found out the really good high performance ssds are burned out quickly and so are actually buying more than they originally thought they needed. So get a good ssd with size and benchmarks because they potentially could be expensive by Black Friday. Maybe an extra 7200 hdd for actually storing non-performance based files (docs, pics, etc). I hate thinking that far out, but I was going to replace my 970 with a 2070 or so last September and couldn’t believe what the price was. Figured it’d be cheaper BF or after the Christmas season.

drat was I wrong.

Spacegrass
May 1, 2013

I just need a destop to play CSGO smoothly. I haven't had and/ or built a computer in years. I would like to build my own system cheaply though around 1-2 months. Any help? Thanks.

Spacegrass
May 1, 2013

I have 100 to start with. And have about 100 in disposable income every week.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
I too would enjoy a 3080 for 200 dollars.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
i'd usually recommend like, a second hand OptiPlex and buying idk a 770 or something? that's usually the ultrabudget route

Spacegrass
May 1, 2013

CoolCab posted:

i'd usually recommend like, a second hand OptiPlex and buying idk a 770 or something? that's usually the ultrabudget route


Thanks.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

de nada bud. i'm not going to bullshit you it's more or less the worst market there has ever been for gpus so you probably are looking at spending a little more/getting a little less than you were a few years ago - i'm pulling this advice from this kind of unfortunately Youtube video on the topic.

if you have any friends with old GPUs they can sell for cheap it will make things much easier/more possible. cs:go isn't enormously demanding and you'll probably be targeting 1080p 60hrz if you have a similarly budget monitor, so you can probably get away with something older - like, a 750ti maybe, 1050ti if you're very very lucky, etc.

Spacegrass
May 1, 2013

Does this would seem like it would work for CSGO smoothly?
Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF (Intel i5 3470 3.20GHz, 6GB, 250GB, Windows 10)

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Spacegrass posted:

Does this would seem like it would work for CSGO smoothly?
Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF (Intel i5 3470 3.20GHz, 6GB, 250GB, Windows 10)

you absolutely, absolutely need a GPU with it and that will be the hardest part, and 6 gigs of ram is a lil rough but manageable. the only other thing that jumps out at me is it's small form factor i think? you might struggle to physically fit a lot of GPUs in there and uhhhhhh thanks dell for this spec sheet lol

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CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
GPU, CPU then ram in terms of game performance, GPU is the most important. your strategy is more or less to buy the cheapest available CPU and ram to get the most GPU you possibly can - watch the video i suggest, get your head around it a little better.

i think they might even give a recommendation for what kind of OptiPlex is good and has a decent PSU

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