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Private Speech posted:One time I was in a shop and this middle-aged woman with a kid came up to me and said "get a job you lazy sod". I didn't even say excuse me or anything because, honestly, what? Nevermind the irony of a stay-at-home mum saying that. Were you wearing your Bart Simpson smoking a joint t-shirt and listening to light rock music?
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Unpaid domestic work is still work  However, seriously gently caress that person, lmao wtf
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May 18, 2021 09:58
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it's because irish society is less broken and there isn't anything like as many people who are paranoid, stuck up, pearl clutching, curtain twitching husks of humanity imo like you can still say hello to someone on the street without them looking panic-stricken and assuming a violent crime is imminent
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May 18, 2021 10:00
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To be fair she might not have been a stay-at-home mum, that was a similar jump to conclusions on my own part and I edited it out. And no I wasn't dressed particularly shabbily, but I didn't shave that day and it was like 13:30 (because it was my day off, actually, but even if it weren't so what).
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May 18, 2021 10:01
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i used to have a similar thing when i lived in edinburgh and worked nights. if i fancied a few beers after a long week and went out to get some that morning i'd get glowers and tsktsks from people because people should be at their work at 9am so anyone buying booze must be a street-drinking ne'er-do-well
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May 18, 2021 10:05
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u brexit ukip it posted:But this thread has the perfect amount of posts - not so many that I can't keep up but enough that there is usually some interesting discussion (unless it's about crisps) (paprika flavoured ones are the best but hard to come by here) If you're anywhere near me it's because I hoover the buggers up as soon as they appear in the Co-op. They're all on top of my fridge. Sorry.
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May 18, 2021 10:08
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i preferred to lean into it and complain loudly about having to queue because i'd left the wains on their own in the flat and i was missing the start of jeremy kyle 
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May 18, 2021 10:09
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crispix posted:if i fancied a few beers after a long week and went out to get some that morning i'd get glowers and tsktsks from people because people should be at their work at 9am so anyone buying booze must be a street-drinking ne'er-do-well I've been abused in the street as a scrounger sponging off the public because they saw me with a hair braiding trolley, ie, saw evidence that I was going to labour to supply a popular demand. (Not that I actually was, it was my niece who was putting in ten hour days all through August to finance her school bus pass, )
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May 18, 2021 10:18
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The Perfect Element posted:Be careful what you wish for. I quit my job to go freelance because I was bored and comfortable but after a while I had enough of being bored and comfortable. It's actually quite enervating. I think some amount of work (as long as it isn't really lovely work) is important. It gives some purpose. That said u brexit ukip it posted:The pro move here would be to start taking on part of your wife's job and then you both take half the day off Half a day of work a day is plenty.
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May 18, 2021 10:22
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Oh dear me posted:I've been abused in the street as a scrounger sponging off the public because they saw me with a hair braiding trolley, ie, saw evidence that I was going to labour to supply a popular demand. i'm very confused by that. is there a thing about hair braiding trolleys? (not that I know what a hair braiding trolley is)
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May 18, 2021 10:23
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conditioning people to tie their perception of self-worth to the labour they exchange for an income is the biggest ruse ever, imo.
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May 18, 2021 10:24
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kecske posted:conditioning people to tie their perception of self-worth to the labour they exchange for an income is the biggest ruse ever, imo. I don't think that people necessarily have to work for income (and derive self-worth from that, or, worse, from the level of income they get), but they have to do something useful/worthwhile with at least some of their time.
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May 18, 2021 10:27
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Anything you do is worthwhile because if it wasn't you wouldn't do it.
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May 18, 2021 10:29
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crispix posted:i'm very confused by that. is there a thing about hair braiding trolleys? Pretty coastal villages in the south west attract young seasonal workers. Some of them work for employers in shops and wear 'smart' clothes or uniforms, like respectable people. But others sell services like hair braiding on the street and look like hippies, so are scroungers. A hair braiding trolley has lots of different coloured threads, and a sign advertising price per braided inch.
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May 18, 2021 10:31
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therattle posted:I don't think that people necessarily have to work for income (and derive self-worth from that, or, worse, from the level of income they get), but they have to do something useful/worthwhile with at least some of their time. in my experience there is actually a non-negligible proportion of people who are so disruptive when added to any group of people that paying them to not work is a worthwhile service to society at large Oh dear me posted:Pretty coastal villages in the south west attract young seasonal workers. Some of them work for employers in shops and wear 'smart' clothes or uniforms, like respectable people. But others sell services like hair braiding on the street and look like hippies, so are scroungers. okay so the... scroungers... working... on the street, there, should... get jobs  well at least i have learned what a hair braiding trolley is crispix fucked around with this message at 10:35 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 10:32
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crispix posted:in my experience there is actually a non-negligible proportion of people who are so disruptive when added to any group of people that paying them to not work is a worthwhile service to society at large Instead we put them in charge of everything
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May 18, 2021 10:38
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The dedication to being a curtain-twitching psychopath required to go up to a random bloke who is doing his shopping & telling them to get a job is impressive. This island really should sink into the Atlantic Ocean out of shame.
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May 18, 2021 10:46
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crispix posted:in my experience there is actually a non-negligible proportion of people who are so disruptive when added to any group of people that paying them to not work is a worthwhile service to society at large It's a fairly silly research finding though, because (a)it overlooks non-financial harm (i.e., working 70 hour weeks is bad for you psychologically, as is working 0 hour weeks every week - it'd be better to have everyone work a day or 2), & (b)capitalists just go "hmm what if instead of paying the other person not to work we just let them starve", the tabloids spend a few decades going on about scroungers with flat screen TVs, and people in general hate the idea of someone getting something that they haven't bled for. crispix posted:okay so the... scroungers... working... on the street, there, should... get jobs Slight tangent: the job market in particular but so much of modern society is tied up in the concept of suffering. You have to suffer for your job to count. Only people who suffer are entitled to welfare (New Labour's New Deal). Criminal justice. Counter-terror is always couched in terms of "radicalisation", "vulnerability" & "safeguarding" because people have to suffer in order to be worthy of help. Likewise sex work, god forbid some people might actually choose it so the policy is always guided by suffering. It's a powerful sociological concept, I half-watched a webinar on it a while back that argued that it's always ebbed & waned as a primary policy guide, but literally all the examples given were under neoliberalism & all of the examples were ebbing. & it's always terrible.
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May 18, 2021 10:49
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Took voluntary redundancy last October after Furlough ended, now i just live off my accumulated 'wealth' till pension age and then die from obesity before dementia sets in. I haven't felt this content since the 1990s tbh. 
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May 18, 2021 10:52
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crispix posted:i used to have a similar thing when i lived in edinburgh and worked nights. if i fancied a few beers after a long week and went out to get some that morning i'd get glowers and tsktsks from people because people should be at their work at 9am so anyone buying booze must be a street-drinking ne'er-do-well After clocking off in the nightclub I worked at in Edinburgh we used to occasionally go to the penny black pub round the back of the St. James' center. Opened at 5am. We'd end up going home at about 9am as everyone was commuting into work. It was a very unsettling experience to be half cut surrounded by suits.
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May 18, 2021 10:55
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Just Another Lurker posted:Took voluntary redundancy last October after Furlough ended, now i just live off my accumulated 'wealth' till pension age and then die from obesity before dementia sets in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6QhAZckY8w
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May 18, 2021 10:56
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therattle posted:I don't think that people necessarily have to work for income (and derive self-worth from that, or, worse, from the level of income they get), but they have to do something useful/worthwhile with at least some of their time. Does levelling in an MMO count? 
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May 18, 2021 11:02
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StarkingBarfish posted:After clocking off in the nightclub I worked at in Edinburgh we used to occasionally go to the penny black pub round the back of the St. James' center. Opened at 5am. We'd end up going home at about 9am as everyone was commuting into work. It was a very unsettling experience to be half cut surrounded by suits. there was a lot that i loved about Edinburgh but it really was plagued by so many of the worst specimens of humanity alive like they were a special breed of oval office with extra special chips on their shoulders and their whole thing seemed to be proving to the world at large that they were definitely a big enough oval office to be cunting it up in london and not just cunting about in edinburgh
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May 18, 2021 11:05
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Bullshit Jobs covers the concept well: "I had the perfect job, I basically didn't have to do anything and got paid loads of money, so why was I miserable and quit to do something harder and worse-paid?" (paraphrasing) Turns out doing nothing hurts the brain, especially in the system where it's associated with being lazy and bad.
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May 18, 2021 11:07
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people power walking about in suits making a show of being very busy and important always looks to me like little kids when they put on superman outfits or whatever hehehe
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May 18, 2021 11:11
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crispix posted:there was a lot that i loved about Edinburgh but it really was plagued by so many of the worst specimens of humanity alive Yeah, the place I worked at catered to exactly that type of person. 20-somethings with a lot of disposable income living for the weekend. They'd spend a fortune on clothes and the nightclub was the place in which they considered it their god given right to be entitled pricks. Shame really because Edinburgh was a really nice place to live and the people who weren't of that mindset were lovely.
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May 18, 2021 11:12
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Borrovan posted:Slight tangent: the job market in particular but so much of modern society is tied up in the concept of suffering. Borrovan posted:but literally all the examples given were under neoliberalism & all of the examples were ebbing. & it's always terrible. And it's tempting, almost encouraged even, to think that this was something that came out of medieval Catholicism, or back to the Bronze Age even, but there's a counter argument that even this in its modern shouty form is about the same age as one of the go-to examples of postmodern consumer capitalism.
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May 18, 2021 11:15
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stev posted:Does levelling in an MMO count? Absolutely. Bobstar posted:Bullshit Jobs covers the concept well: "I had the perfect job, I basically didn't have to do anything and got paid loads of money, so why was I miserable and quit to do something harder and worse-paid?" (paraphrasing) Yeah. crispix posted:in my experience there is actually a non-negligible proportion of people who are so disruptive when added to any group of people that paying them to not work is a worthwhile service to society at large I am not going to argue with you on that, I am sure it is true. But I am also quite confident that a lot of even those people would feel better if they spent at least some of their time doing something productive, even if that is tending an allotment and growing some vegetables.
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May 18, 2021 11:15
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Currently doing a temp job working in a COVID test center, used to be busy but now we average about two people an hour and it's mind numbingly tedious. But it pays decently and I haven't got any else going on so.
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May 18, 2021 11:16
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https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1394564641850896386 Big Brent energy
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May 18, 2021 11:23
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OK ok I loving love kier now
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1394564641850896386 This is going to be one of the great cultural works of our time.
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May 18, 2021 11:25
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Guavanaut posted:And it's tempting, almost encouraged even, to think that this was something that came out of medieval Catholicism, or back to the Bronze Age even, but there's a counter argument that even this in its modern shouty form is about the same age as one of the go-to examples of postmodern consumer capitalism. Pretty much across the board I'm really starting to have doubts about this neoliberalism thing.
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May 18, 2021 11:26
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So tempted rn to lay out my thesis on MMOs as an applied example of absurdism. We grind so that we can level up, and we level up so that we are better at grinding. The meaning is in the journey, not the destination. You can tell I've actually got work to do today.
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May 18, 2021 11:29
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stev posted:This is going to be one of the great cultural works of our time. Lost In La Mancha Vol II (in which an initially innocuous documentary charts the story of an unfolding disaster).
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Sakurazuka posted:Currently doing a temp job working in a COVID test center, used to be busy but now we average about two people an hour and it's mind numbingly tedious. Is this a job where you have to pretend to be busy all the time, or can you just bring a book and chill whenever you don't gotta do anything?
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/1394564641850896386 This is gonna be hilarious when no real network/service wants to buy it and it ends up on britbox or discovery+ Maybe channel 5 can use it as a lead in to their whole block of poverty-porn. blunt fucked around with this message at 11:35 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 11:33
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ugughgguguguggh sorry marc rashfords who i, keir stawbur, am talking to on the tuluphone right now but i have to go because i am going to go on my luptup-cumputer to sponsor some wuking class brutush donkeys ururughrururugh i definitely don't spend half my day in a cupboard drinking whiskey from a bottle and eating wut uggs from a sack urururururuurugh 
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Barry Foster posted:Is this a job where you have to pretend to be busy all the time, or can you just bring a book and chill whenever you don't gotta do anything? Nah fortunately no one cares if you spend most of the day on your phone or whatever
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therattle posted:But I am also quite confident that a lot of even those people would feel better if they spent at least some of their time doing something productive, even if that is tending an allotment and growing some vegetables. Shameless antisemitism here.
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