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I'll be two weeks post shot two on Friday, and god damnit, after more than a year, I am going to the god damned gym, for my physical as well as mental health. Yes, I will wear a mask, but gently caress I really want to go lift some weights and actually feel safe about it. I've tried to go a few times at off hours and noped out seeing so many people without masks and not bothering to use the sanitizing wipes after they used a piece of equipment. It will be a paranoid workout for sure, but I need the gym to bring me back a sense of normalcy/routine/sanity. I would say #GAINZ but lol covid more like #losses. It'll be the best DOMS ever.
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Helith posted:Hey, if there are any 40-49 year old NSW goons in this thread you can get vaxxed right now with Pfizer. My husband and I registered our interest yesterday and got an invite today to book an appointment and we're going to the vax hub at Olympic Park next week. Some people over 50 can also get Pfizer. I got an email on Sunday inviting me to book for the Westmead hospital hub. Blacktown hospital will also have a Pfizer hub, apparently (these things should have happened a couple of months ago). AZ is now available at GPs in NSW, too. Lolie fucked around with this message at 02:47 on May 18, 2021 |
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Got pfizer yesterday, only had a bit of a sore arm but I kept moving it so today that was gone. Sitting here feeling smug about no real side effects. Then I noticed on thigh is sore. I didn't do anything unusual with my legs yesterday, and if I had it would be both thighs, right? Doublecheck the side effects list and "muscle soreness" is there. Kinda expected that one to be more general than one large muscle in my thigh. ??? Sitting and thinking about it got me to notice my back is a little sore too. Sore back is pretty common though, I might not have even noticed if not for the weird thigh. What the hell, body?
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May 18, 2021 02:46
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At the moment the Australian government is saying we won't re-open our borders before mid-2022. That's getting significant pushback from the business and airline sectors, who maintain that we should not pursue a policy of elimination and that Australians will just have to learn to live with covid.
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May 18, 2021 02:51
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Facebook Aunt posted:Got pfizer yesterday, only had a bit of a sore arm but I kept moving it so today that was gone. Sitting here feeling smug about no real side effects. Then I noticed on thigh is sore. I didn't do anything unusual with my legs yesterday, and if I had it would be both thighs, right? Doublecheck the side effects list and "muscle soreness" is there. Kinda expected that one to be more general than one large muscle in my thigh. ??? I'm glad you got vaxed The side effects seem to be all over the place I think it's general inflammation so I think nothing's off the table I think I had side effects in my gums for goodness sakes
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May 18, 2021 02:54
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Lolie posted:At the moment the Australian government is saying we won't re-open our borders before mid-2022. That's getting significant pushback from the business and airline sectors, who maintain that we should not pursue a policy of elimination and that Australians will just have to learn to live with covid. Even weirder is that Scotty is sticking to his guns and resisting the pushback. There must be significant polling that Aussies want to keep the border shut and stay covid free that he's paying attention to because it's coming up to election time and he wants to do a Mark McGowan.
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May 18, 2021 02:57
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Helith posted:Even weirder is that Scotty is sticking to his guns and resisting the pushback. He can't afford to piss off the voting public this close to an election. He already needs to overcome the negative impact loving up the vaccine rollout has had. My reaction to anyone saying that we "just need to learn to live with covid" is fury, and I don't think that's an unusual reaction. Scotty has lost a significant amount of trust and goodwill in the last few months and regaining it will not be easy.
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May 18, 2021 03:01
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It’s fine. Everyone has already forgotten how he hosed off to Hawai‘i while the country was burning.
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May 18, 2021 03:03
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Helith posted:Even weirder is that Scotty is sticking to his guns and resisting the pushback. People living in disability care accommodation were supposed to be vaxxed under stage 1A of the rollout but they've only gotten around to jabbing 4% of them so far even though most states have already moved on to stage 1B and NSW has opened up 2A https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-18/covid-19-vaccinations-borders-hrdlicka-steele-john-littleproud/100145526 quote:People in disability accommodation facilities are included in Phase 1A of the rollout. It'd be instant political suicide if they opened up the borders and a nursing home or two got wiped out. Weirdly enough they don't seem to be in any loving hurry to push those numbers further along.
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May 18, 2021 03:15
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Lolie posted:At the moment the Australian government is saying we won't re-open our borders before mid-2022. That's getting significant pushback from the business and airline sectors, who maintain that we should not pursue a policy of elimination and that Australians will just have to learn to live with covid. That's a particularly generous way of phrasing it... Virgin CEO calls for open borders, even if ‘some people may die’
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May 18, 2021 04:18
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:People living in disability care accommodation were supposed to be vaxxed under stage 1A of the rollout but they've only gotten around to jabbing 4% of them so far even though most states have already moved on to stage 1B and NSW has opened up 2A Littleproud is so out of touch with the sentiments of the average voter. I haven't come across anyone who is OK with the slowness of the rollout apart from a handful of politicians. In the community, people are pissed off about how slow and confusing it has all been and the fact that almost three months on so few of our most vulnerable people - the ones our federal government was organising vaccinations for - have been vaccinated. I'm going to guess that the third party providers who were contracted to carry out those immunisations didn't have targets and that they'll get paid no matter how long it takes for them to doing it.
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May 18, 2021 04:21
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killer crane posted:Commonly I've heard "I can't miss 3 days of work/taking care of my kids dealing with side effects." MarcusSA posted:Yeah this too. The federal government is even paying (in the form of refundable tax credits) for small/midsize businesses to give people COVID sick time, including time off to get vaccinated and/or deal with the side effects. It's sad that, despite this, some businesses still won't get with the program.
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May 18, 2021 05:15
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MEANWHILE US test numbers goes doooooooown  Test positivity rate goes up 
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May 18, 2021 05:32
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https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1394346475014995969
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May 18, 2021 06:23
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The question isn’t whether that’s a war crime, it’s how many war crimes it is.
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May 18, 2021 06:30
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it feels so good to be vaccinated and not wearing a mask. yes! enjoy life. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 18, 2021 07:08
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stellers bae posted:it feels so good to be vaccinated and not wearing a mask. yes! enjoy life. Whose rereg are you?
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May 18, 2021 07:22
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A Fancy Hat posted:I hate to say it but I've pretty much accepted that some portion of my wife's family will die of covid in the next year because they refuse to get vaccinated or take even the most basic precautions when not forced to. So even when a couple dozen people are being total idiots throwing a literal covid party, and they all get it - it's still a coinflip whether anyone actually dies. This helps explain a lot of the idiocy out there. There are tons of stories of people doing everything wrong, being in a vulnerable group, getting it, and ultimately recovering. It's a bit like that dumbass you probably know who drove drunk "successfully" a dozen times and thinks it's totally safe - a 2% risk of crashing is really high (several times a year), but 98% of the time things work out ok. People "learn" from that and get really wrong ideas.
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May 18, 2021 07:52
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The problem there is that the figures radically change if you are my grandma, 94. How different would this have gone if we had framed it as being all about saving the world war 2 war heroes?
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May 18, 2021 07:54
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learnincurve posted:The problem there is that the figures radically change if you are my grandma, 94. Everyone was pretty joyous and enthusiastic about ignoring it when it was being labelled as only deadly to the elderly.
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May 18, 2021 08:08
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It’s quite interesting that the UK numbers are still trending down but the India variant coming right up. Like it’s only getting people that would get covid if that makes sense, rather than getting just anyone. That’s quite uncommon for virus’ isn’t it?
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May 18, 2021 08:12
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May 18, 2021 08:20
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Have some happier news!quote:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/18/96-of-britons-develop-antibodies-after-one-covid-jab-study-finds
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May 18, 2021 08:26
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ShadowHawk posted:I don't mean to undermine the importance of containment or vaccination but it's important to note that Covid still has a surprisingly lowish death rate with proper care. Current case fatality rates are under 2%. An excessive focus on death rates has been part of the problem in getting the virus under control. For a lot of people the odds of dying might be low, but the odds of permanent heart or lung damage, or psychosis, or taste/smell perversion are not well-quantified.
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May 18, 2021 08:26
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CaptainSarcastic posted:An excessive focus on death rates has been part of the problem in getting the virus under control. For a lot of people the odds of dying might be low, but the odds of permanent heart or lung damage, or psychosis, or taste/smell perversion are not well-quantified. Not to mention getting the flu itself kind of sucks and Covid is pretty much worse than it.
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May 18, 2021 08:30
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Bape Culture posted:It’s quite interesting that the UK numbers are still trending down but the India variant coming right up. Like it’s only getting people that would get covid if that makes sense, rather than getting just anyone. That’s quite uncommon for virus’ isn’t it? What numbers? For the past week+ the C-19 symptom tracking app (so not government numbers but a higher estimate based on an algorithm) has shown my borough growing - generally double the number a week previous. Currently estimates cases at "287, up by 144 from last week".
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May 18, 2021 08:35
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CaptainSarcastic posted:An excessive focus on death rates has been part of the problem in getting the virus under control. For a lot of people the odds of dying might be low, but the odds of permanent heart or lung damage, or psychosis, or taste/smell perversion are not well-quantified. To put it in another perspective, the survivablility rate for the elderly is still about 80-90%. That's also about the survivability rate for getting stabbed in the chest, but for some reason we don't have idiots going around saying stabbing old people is no big deal.
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Bape Culture posted:It’s quite interesting that the UK numbers are still trending down but the India variant coming right up. Like it’s only getting people that would get covid if that makes sense, rather than getting just anyone. That’s quite uncommon for virus’ isn’t it? Prat Hancock has been going about almost showing an emotion because the people who have would up in hospital or died should be vaccinated because they are eligible but aren’t. Most of them are the elderly who would have had two jabs by now. We recently had a 4 death day and all of them were over 80 and unvaccinated. Basically when you read people say it’s not being vaccinated is a self correcting problem the UK is proving them right, BUT this isn’t America it’s happening here because community leaders and family’s are badly letting down vulnerable elderly people. We have seen time and time again that when there is a community effort with religious leaders, whatever the leader, the uptake goes up - Church of England in particular has been dreadful.
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It’s crazy that the same CDC that’s like “Watch out! There’s polio in Malaysia!” is like “Go on down to Denny’s to gently caress and suck in a pandemic. You deserve it.”
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Platystemon posted:It’s crazy that the same CDC that’s like “Watch out! There’s polio in Malaysia!” is like “Go on down to Denny’s to gently caress and suck in a pandemic. You deserve it.” this is the best framing of this that we've ever had in either thread
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May 18, 2021 14:02
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Platystemon posted:It’s crazy that the same CDC that’s like “Watch out! There’s polio in Malaysia!” is like “Go on down to Denny’s to gently caress and suck in a pandemic. You deserve it.” lol
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:MEANWHILE That's not a very dramatic rise in positivity percentage, especially not compared to the drop in testing. Certainly not enough to suggest the drop in testing is causing the drop in cases, especially since it's still close to the lowest positivity rate we've had the entire pandemic, but it's certainly worth keeping and eye on over the next few days and weeks. If positivity keeps going up like that, uh oh. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 15:05 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 15:00
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Platystemon posted:It’s crazy that the same CDC that’s like “Watch out! There’s polio in Malaysia!” is like “Go on down to Denny’s to gently caress and suck in a pandemic. You deserve it.”
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May 18, 2021 15:13
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wilderthanmild posted:That's not a very dramatic rise in positivity percentage, especially not compared to the drop in testing. Certainly not enough to suggest the drop in testing is causing the drop in cases, especially since it's still close to the lowest positivity rate we've had the entire pandemic, but it's certainly worth keeping and eye on over the next few weeks. If positivity keeps going up like that, uh oh. It doesn't surprise me that the percentage of positive tests is going up. Who gets tested, generally? 1. People who have possible COVID symptoms or were directly exposed 2. People who are required to get tested for jobs/activities/travel 3. Asymptomatic people who just want to know if they currently have it Relaxed restrictions and being able to show proof of vaccination rather than a negative COVID test will make group #2 decline. And for group #3, many people who were getting tested regularly will stop after becoming fully vaccinated, especially as overall numbers drop. I know several people with customer-facing jobs (bank tellers, food workers, etc.) who stopped getting voluntary COVID tests once they were fully vaccinated. They'll likely only get a test if they suddenly fall into group #1. Which leaves group #1, the people who are more likely to actually test positive for COVID. Plenty of reasons left to panic, but I don't see this as one of them.
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Platystemon posted:It’s crazy that the same CDC that’s like “Watch out! There’s polio in Malaysia!” is like “Go on down to Denny’s to gently caress and suck in a pandemic. You deserve it.” It's really baffling and this is a hilarious comparison. I also believe the claim that they weren't considering politics at all when they changed the guidance on masks for vaccinated people, because even just considering that Republicans exist should have been enough to suggest that was a stupid idea. WhiteHowler posted:It doesn't surprise me that the percentage of positive tests is going up. Who gets tested, generally? I'm also a little curious if that's a dataset that lags a bit and the drop in tests or rise in positivity might be less after a few days. I don't check that particular metric daily and am not familiar with any quirks it might have with collection time. I also don't use Our World In Data all that much, usually just for comparing vaccination rates across countries. wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 15:27 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 15:23
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Huh, apparently Dewine's lottery idea is working, I guess. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-sees-boost-shots-after-it-announces-1-million-vaccination-n1267648
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Cthulu Carl posted:Huh, apparently Dewine's lottery idea is working, I guess. does that make up for what a stupid open everything up rear end in a top hat he was last year? was pretty sweet watching the bloom of counties in ohio turning red from the south up as that jackass hosed everything up
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boar guy posted:does that make up for what a stupid open everything up rear end in a top hat he was last year? was pretty sweet watching the bloom of counties in ohio turning red from the south up as that jackass hosed everything up He's also trying to deny the extra unemployment benefit that the feds are giving out from the latest stimulus bill, he definitely sucks. But it seems like the lottery was a good idea at least! Anybody choosing not to get the shot probably understands probability poorly enough that they are exactly the kind of folks who a lottery could work on.
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boar guy posted:does that make up for what a stupid open everything up rear end in a top hat he was last year? was pretty sweet watching the bloom of counties in ohio turning red from the south up as that jackass hosed everything up For what it's worth, he was probably one of the best GOP governors as far as the pandemic goes. Ohio was one of the first to shut down. He actually stuck to his health orders other than the shutdown and really only relented on the shutdown when the legislature basically started threatening to destroy all kinds of poo poo. Particularly they were threatening to ruin his family politically. He still shouldn't have given in of course, but unlike other GOP governors, he was actually starting from a point of doing the right thing. Hell, how many states with GOP governors kept mask mandates into this year? How many just skipped them? Even him ending the mask mandate a couple weeks from now is basically just relenting to the legislature passing a law blocking such orders and overriding his veto. Don't get me wrong, Dewine sucks in a lot of ways, but he's a lot better than the average GOP governor in regards to the pandemic, especially considering that the entire state legislature and his own state party was basically fighting him the whole way.
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