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https://twitter.com/Tyson_Fury/status/1393985791903387648?s=19 August is a long way off but at least it seems to be happening.
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Politics aside, I'm glad we're getting this fight.
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May 16, 2021 23:39
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It's gonna be good.
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May 17, 2021 01:39
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Sad it won't be in the UK. When was the last time the number 1 and 2 heavyweights in the world were British?
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May 17, 2021 02:01
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Awesome the Fury/Joshua fight is happening, a shame that it's happening in Saudi Arabia and not somewhere like Wembley. Saudi Arabia typically provides a very dead atmosphere, hopefully the Brits can travel by then. We get Josh Taylor vs Jose Ramirez next week as well. If we could get Terence Crawford and Errol Spence to sign a contract, this could be the best year for boxing in a long time. Also excited to learn who the eventual Manuel Charr/Christopher Lovejoy/Bermane Stiverne/Fres Oquendo/Adam Kownacki/Robert Helenius/Trevor Bryan WBA tournament winner will be. Cigar Aficionado fucked around with this message at 04:31 on May 17, 2021 |
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May 17, 2021 04:08
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Also excited to learn who the eventual Manuel Charr/Christopher Lovejoy/Bermane Stiverne/Fres Oquendo/Adam Kownacki/Robert Helenius/Trevor Bryan WBA tournament winner will be. The promoters who found a way to make money off these guys in an era with legit heavyweights who are unifying
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May 17, 2021 16:17
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Jump King posted:The promoters who found a way to make money off these guys in an era with legit heavyweights who are unifying Everyone for those, except for Kownacki and maybe Charr have to be losing promoters money
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Jump King posted:The promoters who found a way to make money off these guys in an era with legit heavyweights who are unifying i would never accuse don king of being stupid
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May 17, 2021 22:31
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absolutely gently caress that. are arbitrators legally binding?
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The real loser in all of this is me for having to read all the horrible takes on boxing Twitter Edit: Oh wait, that's every day The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 22:45 on May 17, 2021 |
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May 17, 2021 22:43
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Marching Powder posted:absolutely gently caress that. are arbitrators legally binding? almost certainly but it probably means wilder is going to get even more money to let the fight happen
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May 17, 2021 22:54
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Very annoying decision, especially considering that Wilder has not fought at all and been basically radio silent since he lost in February 2020, besides the odd social media post. Hopefully Fury/Joshua can go ahead and then Wilder is allowed to fight the winner. Seems like that would be a win/win for everyone including Wilder, as he would make a lot more money fighting the Fury/Joshua winner rather than just fighting Fury again. Although, there is the aspect of the second Fury/Joshua fight, which I thought was included in the Fury/Joshua contract, so this will likely be a mess that has the potential to completely scuttle Fury/Joshua.
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May 17, 2021 23:07
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This is bullshit. Why can’t we have nice things
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May 18, 2021 01:20
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The day after the fight announcement we get an arbitration decision?
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LLCoolJD posted:The day after the fight announcement we get an arbitration decision? Fury knew the arbitration decision was about to drop
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May 18, 2021 06:19
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Oh boy can't wait to watch wilder get utterly embarrassed again instead of a historic unification bout.
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Frankston posted:Oh boy can't wait to watch wilder get utterly embarrassed again instead of a historic unification bout. Maybe we'll get a cool new walkout suit?
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Can Tyson Fury just say, you're right, I should have fought you next Deontay. You know what, to punish me, you can go ahead and have the title since I broke the rules. And you know what, after I beat Anthony Joshua and take all his titles, maybe we'll have our fight, (since it is the only way you will ever get paid) where I will beat you embarassingly badly again and take that title back, and also I will sing to everyone in the arena, who will laugh at you Wouldn't it be pretty easy for him to both say and do all that. Isn't he the type of guy to both say and do all that.
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Wilder would be immensely stupid to take an immediate rematch with Fury coming off his first loss (by KO) a year and a half ago. Take the $20m+ step aside payout, fight a journeyman in the summer for a few million more dollars, then fight the Fury/Joshua winner for all of the belts and more money than you would make just fighting Fury immediately. EDIT: Malik Scott is out saying Wilder won't be taking any step aside money, so clearly Wilder is still dumb as poo poo. Cigar Aficionado fucked around with this message at 20:51 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 20:22
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What’s the payday for Wilder if he fights? I’m having a tough time imagining someone saying no to sitting on their rear end for $20 mil but I also haven’t made a career out of getting punched in the head.
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boop the snoot posted:What’s the payday for Wilder if he fights? A lot more than $20 million and Fury (in some fashion) would have to pay that $20 million. Edit - I'm rewatching Fury Wilder 2 and just noticed the Proper 12 adverts on the ropes, lol. Edit2 - Unless Wilder's outfit malfunction is true, which seems highly suspect, I have little interest in a third fight. He looked like someone with staph for chrissakes. Kaddish fucked around with this message at 20:45 on May 18, 2021 |
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Cigar Aficionado posted:Also excited to learn who the eventual Manuel Charr/Christopher Lovejoy/Bermane Stiverne/Fres Oquendo/Adam Kownacki/Robert Helenius/Trevor Bryan WBA tournament winner will be. Following up on this - apparently Michael Hunter (who just dropped out of the Filip Hrgovic fight) will instead be fighting "Michael Wilson" (? Never heard of him mentioned even in passing) in a WBA heavyweight title eliminator fight on June 19th on the Teofimo Lopez undercard on Triller. Also, apparently the Daniel Dubois/Bognan Dinu June fight will be for the WBA "Interim" title. This is despite the WBA having a "Super" champion (Anthony Joshua), "Regular" champion (Trevor Bryan), "Gold" champion (Robert Helenius), and "Recess" champion (Mahmoud Charr). Clearly the WBA does not know what the definition of the word "interim" is. It's getting to the point where literally anyone ranked in the top 15 by the WBA is fighting for some sort of WBA title. It would be cool if the WBA senior executives got arrested for drug smuggling or something. Cigar Aficionado fucked around with this message at 20:57 on May 18, 2021 |
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I think it would be very funny if wilder forced the fight and sparked Fury
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Kaddish posted:A lot more than $20 million and Fury (in some fashion) would have to pay that $20 million. What does this mean?
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Also for all the fans who are copetalking that it’s actually great business for wilder to not take a world heavyweight champion fight that his team just didn’t a bunch of time fighting for him to get, consider this: It pays a lot of money to fight for the championship as the first big post pandemic fight right away as opposed to waiting years for the winner to maybe grant you a challenge (after they fight each other 2-3 times and then fight Whyte, Usyk, etc) and it pays even more money if he wins.
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Jump King posted:Also for all the fans who are copetalking that it’s actually great business for wilder to not take a world heavyweight champion fight that his team just didn’t a bunch of time fighting for him to get, consider this: It pays a lot of money to fight for the championship as the first big post pandemic fight right away as opposed to waiting years for the winner to maybe grant you a challenge (after they fight each other 2-3 times and then fight Whyte, Usyk, etc) and it pays even more money if he wins. If Wilder can get an agreement that he fights the Fury/Joshua winner immediately/next, it absolutely makes much more sense to take the step aside cash and fight the Fury/Joshua winner at the end of the year. But this is also the guy who turned down a $100m+ dollar deal to fight Anthony Joshua twice to fight Dominic Breazeale for $10-20m, and fired Mark Breland for saving his career/health, so he clearly isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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All of British boxing twitter/media are in mourning over this lol but I'm going to bat for Wilder on this one, he had a contract for a rematch that should have been honoured in December and if he wants to enforce it so be it. Both the previous fights were massive events that delivered big time and the third will as well. Arum has booked that new stadium in Vegas for July so the trilogy will feel massive by the time it comes around. Stealth Tiger posted:Can Tyson Fury just say, you're right, I should have fought you next Deontay. You know what, to punish me, you can go ahead and have the title since I broke the rules. And you know what, after I beat Anthony Joshua and take all his titles, maybe we'll have our fight, (since it is the only way you will ever get paid) where I will beat you embarassingly badly again and take that title back, and also I will sing to everyone in the arena, who will laugh at you If Fury gives up the belt AJ would probably rather fight Wilder for the vacant WBC belt than Fury. Also the contract is for a fight with a guaranteed purse not just a shot at the title.
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Brut posted:What does this mean? Wilder can get a $20 million payday courtesy of the Fury camp but he can make a lot more if the fight happens. Jump King posted:I think it would be very funny if wilder forced the fight and sparked Fury This is a real possibility and part of the reason we'll all watch this fight. Kaddish fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 18, 2021 |
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Cigar Aficionado posted:If Wilder can get an agreement that he fights the Fury/Joshua winner immediately/next, it absolutely makes much more sense to take the step aside cash and fight the Fury/Joshua winner at the end of the year. Oh yeah true he could just get Fury to promise him that he’ll fight him, since Fury is well known for following through on those kind of agreements, which is why he fought Klitschko twice and Wilder three times already. Perhaps they could also get a genie to the negotiating table to get everybody to sign the contract in blood. I’m also sure Wilder is also really kicking himself for not signing a 2 fight DAZN deal just before Joshua got his rear end kicked by Ruiz and enacting his rematch clause, removing him from the possibility of Wilder fighting Joshua that year while still being on the hook for two fights. In the meantime, Wilder having a big fight now is the bird in the hand. And if he wins there’s even more money in the Joshua fight after. Wilder obviously believes he can win because he’s a professional boxer, so in his team’s value calculation it makes all the sense in the world for him to get his title back asap. Of course, that sureness of victory is probably not realistic, but I don’t think that’s stupid as much as a natural part of being this type of athlete. If he didn’t believe in himself as a fighter, and was some shambling don king zombie taking step aside money would be the goal, but he wants the title so it’s not. Obviously the Breland stuff is insane
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Jump King posted:If he didn’t believe in himself as a fighter, and was some shambling zombie Actually the headdress was heavier than it looked.
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If Wilder/Fury does happen, I hope they can keep the fight a little cleaner. I don't mind rough stuff too much but there was a lot of headlocking, rabbit punching and hitting on the break (and failure to break) from Fury in that fight. I know Tyson had a point deducted but I'm a little surprised that there wasn't more talk of his tactics. Maybe there was and I didn't come across it.
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kimbo305 posted:Actually the headdress was heavier than it looked. That’s true, in retrospect we should have known the fix was in when Fury was carried to the ring.
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Jump King posted:That’s true, in retrospect we should have known the fix was in when Fury was carried to the ring. They showed fury rode a golfcart to the dressing rooms, whereas deontay walked. conspiracy? I think so!
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Mr. F! posted:They showed fury rode a golfcart to the dressing rooms, whereas deontay walked. conspiracy? I think so! Kind of hosed up that every time the screen cut to Wilder he was wandering around the MGM asking how to get to the arena
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Jump King posted:Kind of hosed up that every time the screen cut to Wilder he was wandering around the MGM asking how to get to the arena I want to go to wilder fury 3 now so i can join the chorus calling wilder a dosser
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So top rank has reserved a vegas date for July 24, looks like this is happening. Kind of funny how despite all the serious negotiations for Joshua to fight either Wilder or Fury over the last 4 years we’ve just ended up with 3 Wilder-Fury fights
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Jump King posted:Kind of funny how despite all the serious negotiations for Joshua to fight either Wilder or Fury over the last 4 years we’ve just ended up with 3 Wilder-Fury fights This is why boxing rules.
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Mr. F! posted:I want to go to wilder fury 3 now so i can join the chorus calling wilder a dosser Sucks no Fury-Joshua but Allegiant Stadium has an actual club in it so we should all go https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31427717/allegiant-stadium-wynn-field-club-brings-las-vegas-club-dj-experience-raiders-games
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