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mila kunis posted:good news lmao is this why Muʿtazila is the easiest branch of Islam to covert Russia to in ck3
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May 18, 2021 23:12
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mad about religious fundamentalism AND certain that the cause is ineffable, i love it
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May 18, 2021 23:12
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao is this why Muʿtazila is the easiest branch of Islam to covert Russia to in ck3 Iirc theres a legend that a bunch of Kievan Rus were on the verge of converting to Islam until they explained the whole "no booze" thing
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May 18, 2021 23:13
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The Volga Bulgars almost got 'em.
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May 18, 2021 23:15
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StashAugustine posted:Iirc theres a legend that a bunch of Kievan Rus were on the verge of converting to Islam until they explained the whole "no booze" thing yeah it’s part of the mythos of the conversion of Vladimir.
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May 18, 2021 23:16
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StashAugustine posted:Iirc theres a legend that a bunch of Kievan Rus were on the verge of converting to Islam until they explained the whole "no booze" thing I mean if that extended to kvass, I get it. Whole towns and cities would die of thirst or dysentery
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May 18, 2021 23:16
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StashAugustine posted:Iirc theres a legend that a bunch of Kievan Rus were on the verge of converting to Islam until they explained the whole "no booze" thing now that's materialism
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May 18, 2021 23:18
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I just skipped a whole lot of posts 😎 I don’t care if Marxism is a sandwich or not, what’s your analysis of the current moment and what is your theory of change will decide on whether to continue reading posts based on that
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May 18, 2021 23:18
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The Primary Chronicle reports that in the year 987, after consultation with his boyars, Vladimir the Great sent envoys to study the religions of the various neighboring nations whose representatives had been urging him to embrace their respective faiths. The result is described by the chronicler Nestor. Of the Muslim Bulgarians of the Volga the envoys reported there is no gladness among them, only sorrow and a great stench.[14] He also reported that Islam was undesirable due to its taboo against alcoholic beverages and pork.[22] Vladimir remarked on the occasion: "Drinking is the joy of all Rus'. We cannot exist without that pleasure."[22] Ukrainian and Russian sources also describe Vladimir consulting with Jewish envoys and questioning them about their religion, but ultimately rejecting it as well, saying that their loss of Jerusalem was evidence that they had been abandoned by God. His emissaries also visited pre-schism Latin Rite Christian and Eastern Rite Christian missionaries.[citation needed] Ultimately Vladimir settled on Eastern Christianity. In the churches of the Germans his emissaries saw no beauty; but at Constantinople, where the full festival ritual of the Byzantine Church was set in motion to impress them, they found their ideal: "We no longer knew whether we were in heaven or on earth", they reported, describing a majestic Divine Liturgy in Hagia Sophia, "nor such beauty, and we know not how to tell of it." Vladimir was impressed by this account of his envoys.[14] prince Vladimir the great? ur cancelled
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May 18, 2021 23:20
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hard to beat Hagia Sophia vs no drinking
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May 18, 2021 23:25
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Centrist Committee posted:I just skipped a whole lot of posts 😎 The cynical answer is that we're 100 years past the beginning of the "common ruin of the contending classes" timeline. If we're not just gonna lay down and die, the big problem is that capital managed to weather the crises of the early 20th century while its main rival in the USSR failed; and the temporary high of capital's success in the mid century followed by the collapse of the Soviet Union helped destroy Marxist class consciousness in the Western working class, probably accelerated by the atomization of western communities. It seems like the way forward is trying to rekindle class consciousness as an identification of "why are things hosed up" and trying to limit the damage we do to the decolonized world
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May 18, 2021 23:33
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i swear to god if you're a stemlord who has never set foot in a social science class Jon Joe posted:here we can see the beginnings of religious fundamentalism in response to material conditions in this very thread lmfao
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May 19, 2021 00:02
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:hard to beat Hagia Sophia vs no drinking islamic architecture ftw. gently caress u icons
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May 19, 2021 00:08
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religion....man, what's up with that, you can't get that. ISIS, those dudes are just nuts. and that's why marx is wrong. thanks for listening to my report *looks up to scowling teacher and apathetic applause from fellow sixth graders*
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May 19, 2021 00:14
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Brain Candy posted:mad about religious fundamentalism AND certain that the cause is ineffable, i love it I saw a truck with a gadsden flag and a thin blue line flag on the drive home today. it's a banner day for contradictory beliefs
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May 19, 2021 00:53
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Atrocious Joe posted:since the whole thread is yelling at Celot, we stopped posting about the mods Yeah I saw 400 new posts and thought some serious poo poo went down. But this is a pleasant surprise. Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao is this why Muʿtazila is the easiest branch of Islam to covert Russia to in ck3 If only someone told Vladimir the Great about it 
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May 19, 2021 00:56
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As far as ISIS goes, I would argue it didn’t really have much in to do with Iraq or Islam itself beyond the fact that the Saudis gave a ton of money to the most extreme lunatics they could find that happened to be in Iraq at the time. I guess you could make a comparison with Lenin on a boarded up train except that the Bolsheviks were already a established faction and actually had a clear political program while ISIS just exists to cause as much damage as possible. ISIS is like if you gave the most washed up extremist Orthodox reactionaries you could find on the side of the road and started living them heavy equipment. As far as predictive power, I don’t think Marxism is a “hard science” and shouldn’t be treated as such. It is a mode to view economics, history, and social relations. It useful sometimes and less useful other times in my opinion. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 01:41 on May 19, 2021 |
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May 19, 2021 01:35
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ISIS was also full of bored middle class failsons. Backed up by actual battle hardened Chechnyans.
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May 19, 2021 01:41
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Granted, I think Chechens are pretty much the Swiss mercenaries of the Middle East at this point.
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May 19, 2021 01:44
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those aren't material conditions, op, they simply sprang up due to heightened levels of "crazy" in the middle east.
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May 19, 2021 02:12
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gap left by the crazy dark ages
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May 19, 2021 02:14
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Celot ruined an almost 10 year no-probations streak over the content in this thread and managed to jump directly to 24 hours for using problematic language. What are the material conditions for the internet? Correct answers only plz
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May 19, 2021 02:14
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tokin opposition posted:Celot ruined an almost 10 year no-probations streak over the content in this thread and managed to jump directly to 24 hours for using problematic language. I think he just has an "unsound mind"
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May 19, 2021 02:15
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tokin opposition posted:Celot ruined an almost 10 year no-probations streak over the content in this thread and managed to jump directly to 24 hours for using problematic language. A combination of increasing capitalist surveillance and the useless idealism of Silicon Valley libertatians
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May 19, 2021 02:15
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Just loling here that someone convinced FA that "cretin" is ablist:quote:1779, from French crétin (18c.), from Alpine dialect crestin, "a dwarfed and deformed idiot" of a type formerly found in families in the Alpine lands, a condition caused by a congenital deficiency of thyroid hormones. The word is of uncertain origin. By many it has been identified with Vulgar Latin *christianus "a Christian," a generic term for "anyone," but often with a sense of "poor fellow." Related: Cretinism (1796). Oh no, he might have insulted a group of people from 200 years ago by using a term which includes them in the human and Christian community. Literally a term that was used to remind the user and listener that those affected were still human like everyone else, lol. Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 02:24 on May 19, 2021 |
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May 19, 2021 02:22
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What are some good books/articles about Islamic socialism/communism? Also not sure how useful this is for people here but the general secretary of the communist party of pakistan has a youtube channel where he talks about marx in urdu/hindi. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIyAy8lIQwnj-2CGt9e-N3g
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May 19, 2021 02:26
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Ferrinus posted:The exact same individuals who once supported the secular Hussein government, including his own daughter, are now on the side of IS. Caliph Ibrahim's deputies in charge of the Syrian and Iraqi portions of IS are both former military officers from the Hussein era. The people have not changed. Material reality has; because it is impossible to defeat the United States as a secular socialist government, they must do it as mujahideen. I mean this just points to opportunism, doesn’t it? fighting imperialism by becoming IS speaks to wanting power more than a principled stand against Western imperialism, especially given the horrendous poo poo they intend to force upon people in the eventual absence of liberal democratic capitalism
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May 19, 2021 02:29
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swimsuit posted:those aren't material conditions, op, they simply sprang up due to heightened levels of "crazy" in the middle east. what would happen if things got crazy in the metropole
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May 19, 2021 02:31
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ISIS was an op
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May 19, 2021 02:31
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lumpentroll posted:we are btw way ahead of you habibti
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May 19, 2021 02:37
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tokin opposition posted:What are the material conditions for the internet? Correct answers only plz 1: a bulk of data, in an easily transmissible format, so large that it exceeds the capabilities of its producers and archivists to render it into information 2: a commodification of communication 3: 'puters 4: $profit$
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May 19, 2021 02:42
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tokin opposition posted:What are the material conditions for the internet? Correct answers only plz have you any idea how it feels to be a fembot living in a manbot's manputer's world?
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May 19, 2021 02:44
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tokin opposition posted:What are the material conditions for the internet? Correct answers only plz just gotta finish sending some bitcoin via smoke signals then I'll be right on this q
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May 19, 2021 02:51
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indigi posted:I mean this just points to opportunism, doesn’t it? fighting imperialism by becoming IS speaks to wanting power more than a principled stand against Western imperialism, especially given the horrendous poo poo they intend to force upon people in the eventual absence of liberal democratic capitalism well yeah even if you ignore saud influence and just use "ISIS" as a linguistic standin for "militant fundamentalism" generally, that sort of thing isn't, like, good. it's just what you're going to get when the west destroys every alternative
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May 19, 2021 03:02
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tokin opposition posted:Celot ruined an almost 10 year no-probations streak over the content in this thread and managed to jump directly to 24 hours for using problematic language. all I know is we need to get him to a mosque post haste
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May 19, 2021 03:02
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Celot posted:No, it either can’t explain ISIS or it can explain every hypothetical. maybe it can explain isis and some but not all hypotheticals
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May 19, 2021 03:14
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Flavius Aetass posted:straight up cretins itt quoting this to point out that you probed yourself and took a breather and now the thread has completely recovered. multiple people told you to do this, including me, an actual straight up cretin irl. here's the lesson: the entire reason that the forums are fun is because nothing on them matters. it's easy to forget this when you get a fancy mod account with a star and buttons and poo poo, but none of that matters either. as soon as the internet starts mattering too much, it's time to turn your monitor off.
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May 19, 2021 03:33
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I''m sorry but did anyone point out within the last 300 posts that there actually was an uprising in Iraq in the form of Abd al-Karim Qasim and the 14 July Revolution motivated by "material conditions" and sought to nationalize key economic resources and industries and establish a republic... except the CIA hosed them over? like, the reason there aren't any secularists and/or socialists left in the Middle East anymore is that reactionaries shot them all, usually by painting them as being Moscow-stooges first
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May 19, 2021 03:34
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splifyphus posted:quoting this to point out that you probed yourself and took a breather and now the thread has completely recovered. multiple people told you to do this, including me, an actual straight up cretin irl. poster treat thy self
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May 19, 2021 03:44
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Raskolnikov38 posted:i swear to god if you're a stemlord who has never set foot in a social science class does this thread count
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