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Koirhor posted:What ever happened to that CX-5 diesel? Did I imagine that? They made a few thousand of them for 2019.
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Koirhor posted:What ever happened to that CX-5 diesel? Did I imagine that? Came out, flopped hard, got axed. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35216165/mazda-cx-5-diesel-dead/ There are 63 listed on cars.com
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EnergizerFellow posted:There's a reason people half-jokingly say "Nice Mustang you got there..." when talking about BMW's modern go-fast coupes. And honestly, other than typical Ford build quality and interior materials/refinement, is there really that big of a difference between, say, a 2021 Mustang Mach1 w/ Elite Package and a BMW 4-series with various go-fast options? As someone who has driven probably half a dozen different modern Mustangs, yes. Yes there is.
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EnergizerFellow posted:There's a reason people half-jokingly say "Nice Mustang you got there..." when talking about BMW's modern go-fast coupes. And honestly, other than typical Ford build quality and interior materials/refinement, is there really that big of a difference between, say, a 2021 Mustang Mach1 w/ Elite Package and a BMW 4-series with various go-fast options? You don’t have to walk into a Ford dealership to buy the BMW.
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EnergizerFellow posted:There's a reason people half-jokingly say "Nice Mustang you got there..." when talking about BMW's modern go-fast coupes. And honestly, other than typical Ford build quality and interior materials/refinement, is there really that big of a difference between, say, a 2021 Mustang Mach1 w/ Elite Package and a BMW 4-series with various go-fast options? Has BMW's interior cost-cutting gotten to the point where the Mustang's is better yet?
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EnergizerFellow posted:There's a reason people half-jokingly say "Nice Mustang you got there..." when talking about BMW's modern go-fast coupes. And honestly, other than typical Ford build quality and interior materials/refinement, is there really that big of a difference between, say, a 2021 Mustang Mach1 w/ Elite Package and a BMW 4-series with various go-fast options? But it was the Mustang that took on a distinctly more European design and feel in the newest generation, aping BMW and friends, much to the chagrin of a lot of diehard Mustang oldsters
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Guinness posted:But it was the Mustang that took on a distinctly more European design and feel in the newest generation, aping BMW and friends, much to the chagrin of a lot of diehard Mustang oldsters it did? I thought it was a throwback to the old era of muscle cars, at least more than the last couple generations where they lost the distinctive stub nose. I was never a mustang guy tho
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May 19, 2021 22:07
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Residency Evil posted:I think that first picture just has to be a terrible angle, right? It's that long, even Audi-esque, front overhang that fucks up the proportions. What is up with that
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that sucks...the small overhang is one of the main features of how they are supposed to look
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Previa_fun posted:Still waiting on that Skyactiv-X to come to the US lol It's so underwhelming in its current form - economy is a bit better than the 2.5 but it's definitely slower and any savings are largely negated by its need for Premium fuel. Annoyingly Mazda decided to tie the 360 camera to the Skayactiv-X model here (heated steering wheel too but who cares about that) Powershift posted:Came out, flopped hard, got axed. The diesel barely makes sense in its more economical and powerful international version let alone the crippled US version.
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May 19, 2021 22:50
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Heating steering wheel is one of my most unexpectedly liked features, haha.
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Yahoo might have broken the embargo on the Lighting, listing the base price at $39,974 before tax credits and posting these pictures. Powershift posted:Yahoo pulled the article. It's almost definitely legit.
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Residency Evil posted:Has BMW's interior cost-cutting gotten to the point where the Mustang's is better yet? No, but Ford's senior leadership seems to have had a Come to Jesus moment regarding quality control with their arguably failed recent product launches, including the Explorer and Aviator. I have some cautious optimism for new Ford platforms going forward, but we'll see.
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Powershift posted:Yahoo might have broken the embargo on the Lighting, listing the base price at $39,974 before tax credits and posting these pictures. Holy poo poo they gave it a frunk. Brilliant.
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EnergizerFellow posted:No, but Ford's senior leadership seems to have had a Come to Jesus moment regarding quality control with their arguably failed recent product launches, including the Explorer and Aviator. I have some cautious optimism for new Ford platforms going forward, but we'll see. I hope they get their poo poo together. I bought 3 Ford Explorers from the last gen and all were great cars. We had a 2020 loaner and we weren’t going to spend the money on one of those.
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Holy poo poo they gave it a frunk. Brilliant. that frunk is amazing(ly huge), pretty awesome Do car internals change year to year if there's no refresh, like faster chips, better parts? Or is it just colors and options?
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Holy poo poo they gave it a frunk. Brilliant. It is so loving cool.
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MeruFM posted:that frunk is amazing(ly huge), pretty awesome Some companies(chrysler, tesla) change poo poo all willy nilly. Most companies save big changes for model year changeovers for easier parts tracking. Occasionally stuff will change a lot mid-year. 99 powerstroke F-250s and 99.5 powerstroke f-250s have a bunch of engine differences, like incompatible injectors for example. It's all a crap shoot.
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Powershift posted:Some companies(chrysler, tesla) change poo poo all willy nilly. Most companies save big changes for model year changeovers for easier parts tracking. Occasionally stuff will change a lot mid-year. 99 powerstroke F-250s and 99.5 powerstroke f-250s have a bunch of engine differences, like incompatible injectors for example. There's a tech upgrade where the 99.5+s used sequenced injections to cut smoke/emissions while increasing efficiency and power. 02-03 CA models were catalyst equipped too. That same basic 1999 cab/frame design ran till 2016 or so. major front end update on the 4x4 in 05.5 otherwise, not much changes.
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I’m digging this F-150 Lightning announcement
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Looking at the base MSRP it'd appear to be a lot more affordable than I expected but it looks like the price ramps quickly with the XLT being $55k, still pretty impressive overall. Disappointed to see its crew crab 5.5' box only though. I can't get excited for much of anything new right now though, I've got 2 vehicles I'd like to replace but everything I'd be interested in is both out of stock locally and being marked up significantly elsewhere. Car market sucks so bad right now. Elem7 fucked around with this message at 04:15 on May 20, 2021 |
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MEGA POWER FRUNK
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I think there’s something weird about the angle of those M8 shots, the overhang doesn’t stand out as much IRL. Long, wide and low is how the 8 looks. Can’t buy F150’s here but I’m pretty impressed with the Lightning, a heap of neat features. Is this the first time a manufacturer has officially used the term frunk too?
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I wonder who will buy the electric f150, especially at first. Do we think fleet sales will be good?
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Residency Evil posted:I wonder who will buy the electric f150, especially at first. Do we think fleet sales will be good? That frunk has me positively erect, so possibly me.
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Won't you take me to . . . Frunkytown
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Residency Evil posted:I wonder who will buy the electric f150, especially at first. Do we think fleet sales will be good? if my colleagues are any indication a bunch of people who never would have considered owning a truck before
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MeruFM posted:that frunk is amazing(ly huge), pretty awesome There are usually small changes here and there, but only with parts that are considered 'interchangeable.' Suppliers quote parts at a particular EAU and the more they run the cheaper they are - they'll make 100,000 of a mediocre part before they make 50,000 of a mediocre part and 50,000 of a better one. Very few of those changes are going to be to imrpove the product from a customer perspective. They will be things that have more payoff for the manufacturer - easier to put together or make, lower piece cost, safer, less likely to cause a failure down the line.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:if my colleagues are any indication a bunch of people who never would have considered owning a truck before great, even more pedestrian-hostile vehicles on the road being driven by people who don't need them.
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What's funny is my first reaction was that "Wow, that frunk makes the thing a TON more usable and wouldn't have to worry about gas prices." That thought was very fleeting though since the size of the vehicles would make them pretty useless to me. Like, I can't put an EV in my garage to charge it if it won't actually fit in my garage. Scale it down 25% and it would be a lot more appealing, but I'm sure the range would suffer.
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bull3964 posted:What's funny is my first reaction was that "Wow, that frunk makes the thing a TON more usable and wouldn't have to worry about gas prices." That thought was very fleeting though since the size of the vehicles would make them pretty useless to me. Like, I can't put an EV in my garage to charge it if it won't actually fit in my garage. I wouldn't be surprised if a Ranger EV was in the pipeline. Probably would weigh less to keep the range reasonable.
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Really throws me off for it to be a lightning but also a four door But then again the e-mustang doesn't look like a mustang
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Secret Machine posted:I wouldn't be surprised if a Ranger EV was in the pipeline. Probably would weigh less to keep the range reasonable. That's something I might actually consider if it was 30kish for a reasonably well equipped model and it wasn't huge.
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I hope that there's a regular cab Short box Lightning for 2023/24. Ideally with a factory option like the Hellcrate that comes with slicks and skinnies. With 775ftlbs it should be able to pop a wheelie off the line.
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CornHolio posted:That's something I might actually consider if it was 30kish for a reasonably well equipped model and it wasn't huge. Same, I do highway/bridge construction inspection so I would like decent ground clearance but would prefer something smaller for maneuvering around Jersey barriers and construction entrances. But part of me once to convince my partner the Lightning is a great investment cause we would get a built-in powerwall as well.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:if my colleagues are any indication a bunch of people who never would have considered owning a truck before Now that I think about it, the vein diagram of "Goes to Home Depot twice a year/wants to be able to pick up a washer off the side of the road," "Want to show they care about the environment," and "Low Self Esteem" is enormous. They'll sell loads of them.
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McTinkerson posted:I hope that there's a regular cab Short box Lightning for 2023/24. Ideally with a factory option like the Hellcrate that comes with slicks and skinnies. Call it the lightning rod.  I was really in to mini trucks and wanted this thing so god drat bad when it was shown.
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