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TheDiceMustRoll posted:The Isle of Dread tells you to do the same for evil PCs, actually. You wanna enslave the island people? Get ready to catch a knife in the back. It was really funny in retrospect because the magic-user had basically taken it as read that this mercenary was going to be his new footman and gave him something like 50gp to reoutfit himself in town. When he never showed up at the recruitment meeting, it all kind of dawned on him and his reaction was "yeah, I probably would have done the same thing."
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As a matter of thread moderation and guidance, although I've actively participated in some of the derails, I agree that it's better to stay vaguely in the area of "stuff related to the trad games industry" rather than take deep dives into the philosophy of lethal combat in role-playing games or another discussion of exactly how racist Robert E. Howard was. I appreciate that several of you have already made the effort to redirect the thread, so this is more of just a statement of support. Thanks.
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https://twitter.com/machineiv/status/1395113700558741507?s=20 I'm going to assume he talked to his lawyers about the legality of asking people about this but drat dude TheDiceMustRoll fucked around with this message at 23:44 on May 19, 2021 |
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May 19, 2021 23:30
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Ransom his posts like how? Like, harass people until... what, they buy an NFT of a Zak S. tweet?
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May 19, 2021 23:55
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Nessus posted:Ransom his posts like how? Like, harass people until... what, they buy an NFT of a Zak S. tweet? Harass them until they take their anti-Zak posts down.
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May 19, 2021 23:59
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Nessus posted:Ransom his posts like how? Like, harass people until... what, they buy an NFT of a Zak S. tweet? He's got this multi-part Something like a third of this "what about V5" poo poo is just him rehashing his usual extremely transparent hyperDARVO garbage about Olivia and some of his other punching bags, which of course has hardly anything to do with his V5 story regardless if it were true (which it 99% is not). And he's dropping hints like a YouTube movie commentator about legal stuff due out the end of this year, which is very endearing.
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May 20, 2021 00:23
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Who the gently caress are these people that are such ardent fans of Smith that they'll brigade for him? I don't think even Kiwifarms gives much of a gently caress about him. Is it all sockpuppets?
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I took the bullet and went to his website for the first time in years to see if that made it clearer. Holy gently caress.  He has lost the goddamn plot He appears to be in some days prolonged multi-thousand word rant where's he attempting to rewrite the last 10 years of RPG history. Also, yeah he's totally "Don't harass people, but *wink* here's how to do it with a burner account".
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May 20, 2021 00:28
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Deptfordx posted:I took the bullet and went to his website for the first time in years to see if that made it clearer. I am fascinated by the prospect of what he thinks the last ten years look like, but would not like to visit his website.
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May 20, 2021 00:46
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Nessus posted:Ransom his posts like how? Like, harass people until... what, they buy an NFT of a Zak S. tweet? And then once he gets one hundred pictures of harassment, he'll start posting THE REAL TRUTH about 5e/Mike Mearls.
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Arivia posted:And then once he gets one hundred pictures of harassment, he'll start posting THE REAL TRUTH about 5e/Mike Mearls.
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Kavak posted:Who the gently caress are these people that are such ardent fans of Smith that they'll brigade for him? I don't think even Kiwifarms gives much of a gently caress about him. Is it all sockpuppets? Zak isn't transgender or radically left wing enough to warrant a thread on there.
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Kavak posted:Who the gently caress are these people that are such ardent fans of Smith that they'll brigade for him? I don't think even Kiwifarms gives much of a gently caress about him. Is it all sockpuppets? A lot of them are probably his alts because he's a loon like that. I don't think I've seen anyone defend him in years who wasn't posting from a suspiciously disposable account.
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Kavak posted:Who the gently caress are these people that are such ardent fans of Smith that they'll brigade for him? I don't think even Kiwifarms gives much of a gently caress about him. Is it all sockpuppets? Never underestimate the ability of the internet to produce people mad at the prospect that a man should not get away with raping a woman.
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Evil people help each other, and are capable of understanding good in that it harms them. This explains much of the world.
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Zak also made lovely people feel validated about liking gross things by wrapping it in a veneer of porn feminism. I’m not surprised he still has pockets of people that do his bidding.
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There's an edgelord contingent to the OSR, and "Help I'm being censored" is catnip to those types of people. If you love classic D&D and hate women, you probably like Zak S.
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Nessus posted:Ransom his posts like how? Like, harass people until... what, they buy an NFT of a Zak S. tweet? Zak S posted:I'm planning on doing a series on the whole saga with Mike Mearls, creative head of Dungeons and Dragons, going in to the conspiracy theories there about when I consulted on D&D 5e, the lawsuits, etc. with receipts. It, unsurprisingly, features a lot of the same characters...
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Halloween Jack posted:To be clear, this is how it's done:
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May 20, 2021 15:08
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Harass people! But don’t harass them.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:I know it's Zak, but that has to be a fake quote. No, I read it myself - it's a direct quote from his blog.
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Kavak posted:Who the gently caress are these people that are such ardent fans of Smith that they'll brigade for him? I don't think even Kiwifarms gives much of a gently caress about him. Is it all sockpuppets? His roommate, Shannon, for one.
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Don't forget entirely neutral and unbiased observers like Kas Z, Ask Z, Zas K and many more totally real people who are unafraid to support him!
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ShannonB, ShannonC,
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Halloween Jack posted:To be clear, this is how it's done: Holy poo poo I hope Mandy's lawyers are archiving all this poo poo.
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Deptfordx posted:Don't forget entirely neutral and unbiased observers like Kas Z, Ask Z, Zas K and many more totally real people who are unafraid to support him! Why would this hide his identity? He must be a vampire.
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Zak's opsec is on par with turning your jacket inside-out to fool the Fair Folk. It'd be endearing if it were anyone else.
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drat, you idiots are all gonna eat crow when I prove that Ask Z was really just Shannon Appelcline all along.
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What does Zak even know about the making of V5? He only made a bad visual novel and I remember that being the last of his contributions after a public outcry.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:What does Zak even know about the making of V5? He only made a bad visual novel and I remember that being the last of his contributions after a public outcry.
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I expect he explains in his screed about how he was the secret inspiration whose ideas were stolen without credit, but hell if i'm going to read it to find out.
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Deptfordx posted:I expect he explains in his screed about how he was the secret inspiration whose ideas were stolen without credit, but hell if i'm going to read it to find out. He says he was on the main design team with Kenneth Hite until the blowback from his lovely VN got him turbo-cancelled.
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Arivia posted:He says he was on the main design team with Kenneth Hite until the blowback from his lovely VN got him turbo-cancelled. (takes a deep breath) (laughs forever)
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I only just realized last night that Zack is 44 years old and has probably drained his rich daddy's bank accounts keeping images of him over 30 from appearing online.
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May 20, 2021 18:37
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Holy poo poo, Zak has a Wikipedia page. The ego on that guy.
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He also has a Twitter account, and some prominent people follow him on there, including Soledad O'Brien.
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Cessna posted:Holy poo poo, Zak has a Wikipedia page. Check out the talk page. They've had to work to stop the page from being brigaded by new accounts that have no connection to Bad Hair Man but do have a strong interest in making sure unusual interpretations of the rule against including legal accusations of living public figures are followed.
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Cessna posted:Holy poo poo, Zak has a Wikipedia page. A Wikipedia page with a history of edit wars, if you look at the Talk section. EDIT: goddamnit Eukie
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The blood orange syrup I made is really good, and so is gin, and so was the port. So I'll summarize Zak's series of posts about What Happened to Vampire V5 and spare you from wading through the fever swamp. Part 1: Vampire, as a franchise, was killed off by a SJW mob who didn't even know what they were doing and just hated the designers. If you don't fight against cancel culture, it will destroy the game industry. No up-and-coming designers will ever survive the lobster bucket of Online to become the esteemed industry veterans of the future. Also, Olivia Hill is a horrible person. Zak has talked to all of the industry's most vaunted greybeards (he uses Robin Laws as an example of the caliber of people he's talking about) and claims every single one of them has bad things to say about her. Despite meticulously demands evidence and citations that meet his ever-shifting standards, he presents no proof of any of this. It's all just gossip that you can choose to believe or not. Part 2: Paradox hired Zak to make a mobile game. He decided to make it follow text-message format. He based the character Avery Ailes on his good friend Bailey Jay, who likes to give handjobs to Uber drivers. Anyway, Paradox flew him, Kenneth Hite, and an art director to Stockholm. At that point there was no one else, and they were going to be the architects of the new Vampire. Part 3: Olivia Hill is out to get Zak, and so are RPGnet and Something Awful. Remember, SA was founded by an abuser and spawned 4chan, so it's a troll forum. A SA mod said Zak's Vampire game was transphobic. How could it be transphobic when Zak has all these trans friends who constantly praise him? Zak's refrain that all his enemies are the REAL abusers comes across like an alien trying use social justice language. Everything is just more or less subtly off, like a North Korean propaganda leaflet. Oh, and most of this is written as a long-winded analogy to Littlefinger from Gambo Thrones. Anyway, the important thing here is that Olivia Hill got Zak booted from Vampire because he got invited to work on it and she didn't. She quit Onyx Path either because she was mad at him, or because she learned none of her projects would be greenlit because they didn't like her work. Paradox took Zak off of Vampire because the online mob she was leading was putting too much heat on the revival of a seminal but long-dormant IP. Part 3.5: Olivia Hill is really, really evil and really, really hates Zak you guys. Here are more screencaps of tweets. Also, here's a list of things that she should do to make up for her evil ways. There are 25 line items, but it amounts to apologizing, recanting every negative thing she's ever said about Zak, then devoting her life to correcting anyone who says bad things about Zak. I think this is what Zak wants from every person in the universe. Part 4: Rob Donoghue and Fred Hicks, of Evil Hat Games, support online cancel culture. Other longtime industry veterans won't speak up for Zak because everybody knows everybody and it's too awkward. All of this is written as a long-winded analogy to dealing with your Trump-loving uncle at Thanksgiving. But in this analogy, GenCon is Thanksgiving, Rob Donoghue and Fred Hicks are the racist uncles, and Olivia Hill/Ettin/SA/RPGnet are Trump. This is a weird analogy because, while I agree that some of Indie RPG Twitter are insufferable quivering wads of anxiety, none of the people he's complaining about are even a little right-leaning. Because again, he uses left-activist framing the way Solid Snake uses a cardboard box, so as not to sound like an alt-righter raving about cancel culture. He never actually uses that phrase, instead saying "online hatemob" where other desperately edgy people in the scene would say "cancel culture" or "SJWs." Also, he's apparently Jewish, so nothing connected to him could credibly be accused of being Neo-Nazi. Zak will go on to accuse people of "Calling Jews Nazis" repeatedly. Despite the fact that, by his own admission, he didn't work on any of the stuff that's being accused of pandering to Nazis. Moving on! Although Zak was quickly taken off the Vampire V5 team, Olivia Hill et al didn't know that. So they spent months picking apart everything about V5 to find stuff that they could label offensive or right-wing. Rob Donoghue supported this stuff, lending it credibility and prompting other people to follow. He later apologized for linking a post accusing V5 of marketing itself to Online Nazis. In a just world, there would be a cascade of apologies, repentance, and promises to defend Zak and attack his enemies, but alas. Part 5: That whole Chechnya thing was no big deal and nobody cared, until Ettin made a big deal of it. Ettin has no business commenting on these issues because he's not LGBTQIA+, just like people who aren't trans have no business saying Zak's game was transphobic, and people who aren't Jews have no business saying that Vampire V5 panders to Nazis. Also, Crystal Frazier and Cam Banks were critical as well. How could they do that, considering that Ken Hite is a person that they know? Anyway, in the end, Ettin's actions helped Ramzan Kadyrov. Part 6: The Vampire V5 team were stressed, depressed, and had their careers damaged by cancel culture. Other creators won't support them, and everyone is afraid to speak up because of the terrible power wielded by Olivia Hill and SA forums poster Ettin. When Zak got word that Chris Handley, a WoD podcaster, had had a beer with Olivia Hill, he tried to do the right thing by warning him that Olivia Hill is a witch who would put snakes in his socks and give him chilblains. Handley responded by joining the hatemob. Years later he wrote Zak to say that Zak was right about everything, but he didn't apologize and was still mad at Zak. The series ends with a list of malefactors who never suffered any negative consequences for being mean to Zak. This includes Robin Laws, for some reason. As far as I can tell, Laws is guilty of not using his industry pull to defend Zak, even though Zak knows his friend Ken! Okay, I have to go hang up an extension cord reel and dispose of a dead raccoon. What's everyone's favourite gin cocktail? Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 20, 2021 |
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My grandpa used to make a drink that I think you deserve: 1 serving gin (serving being whatever you feel is appropriate) Ice Lime wedge
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