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VitalSigns posted:If it doesn't do anything anyway why not just ignote it and let it pass then. Why was blocking it so important I mean I suppose Israel would freak out if they didn't, making actual ceasefire demands impossible? Israel is super big on symbolic gestures, after all.
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TulliusCicero posted:I'm not sure what is worse: Just a reminder, Lapid is the one who's currently tasked with forming a government since their last election. Hopefully Netanyahu won't be able to continue blocking it.
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May 21, 2021 14:00
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The Sean posted:They can be criminals and still hold office. Right, but when it comes to things like votes in the House or Senate, if they're in jail, are they just considered not present, or do they appoint someone to vote in their absence, or... I guess what I'm asking is how much reaping is going to happen from the Republican kiddy diddlers sowing while thinking God-President Trump was going to protect them forever?
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May 21, 2021 14:01
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https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1395704160906063873 Lol he's now performatively talking himself into it in the media, looking good Senator Hamlet
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May 21, 2021 14:14
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DarkCrawler posted:I mean I suppose Israel would freak out if they didn't, making actual ceasefire demands impossible? Israel is super big on symbolic gestures, after all. Why would Israel freak out if it does nothing. Isn't the theory behind this latest attack that Bibi is a cynical realpolitik guy who fomented this massacre in order to rally support and divide his political opposition and he agreed to the cease fire once that goal succeeded? So why would he need to continue and risk all those gains because a meaningless "sternly worded letter" happened
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May 21, 2021 14:28
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1395704160906063873 That’s really cringe. He needs to stop 🛑 and step out of his persona for a moment. Maybe then he’ll realize how critical it is to nuke the filibuster.
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May 21, 2021 14:35
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Randalor posted:Right, but when it comes to things like votes in the House or Senate, if they're in jail, are they just considered not present, or do they appoint someone to vote in their absence, or... I'm pretty sure they just show up or they don't, like normal. That's a fair question, though.
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May 21, 2021 14:37
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1395704160906063873
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Randalor posted:Right, but when it comes to things like votes in the House or Senate, if they're in jail, are they just considered not present, or do they appoint someone to vote in their absence, or... traditionally there is no such thing as proxy voting. right now because of covid the house has limited proxy voting a house member is privileged from arrest while going to or coming from voting, but i don't believe that has ever been interpreted as giving them a right to get out of jail to go vote usually it's solved by congress expelling the criminal
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May 21, 2021 14:41
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Vorik posted:That’s really cringe. He needs to stop 🛑 and step out of his persona for a moment. Maybe then he’ll realize how critical it is to nuke the filibuster. TBH if he doesn't act on killing the filibuster he may be in danger of getting primaried during the next elections, voters are gonna be real salty on his rear end if the extremely slim window to pass anything meaningful over the next decade falters because if his stubbornness.
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May 21, 2021 14:44
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Parrotine posted:TBH if he doesn't act on killing the filibuster he may be in danger of getting primaried during the next elections, voters are gonna be real salty on his rear end if the extremely slim window to pass anything meaningful over the next decade falters because if his stubbornness. The conclusion here seems contrary to reason.
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May 21, 2021 14:46
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Parrotine posted:TBH if he doesn't act on killing the filibuster he may be in danger of getting primaried during the next elections, voters are gonna be real salty on his rear end if the extremely slim window to pass anything meaningful over the next decade falters because if his stubbornness. He's already likely to lose his next election, which he has to understand. He went from commanding a clear lead in his first election to his most recent one basically being a dead heat.
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May 21, 2021 14:47
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Also, as we've beaten to death before, the last time progressives tried to primary him they got absolutely crushed. It's not happening.
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May 21, 2021 14:48
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evilweasel posted:traditionally there is no such thing as proxy voting. right now because of covid the house has limited proxy voting It seems increasingly likely that the Florida GOP's plan when they were caught on this sex trafficking ring was to have Trump installed as dictator so they could yell "I HAVE POWERFUL FRIENDS AT COURT!" "POWERFUL FRIENDS!"  Too bad for them 
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May 21, 2021 14:49
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Vorik posted:That’s really cringe. He needs to stop 🛑 and step out of his persona for a moment. Maybe then he’ll realize how critical it is to nuke the filibuster. Is the little stop sign in there to help people understand what you meant by the word "stop"?
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May 21, 2021 14:50
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gudetama posted:Is the little stop sign in there to help people understand what you meant by the word "stop"? Sometimes my phone keyboard puts related emojis right up next to the keyboard automatically, I've definitely accidentally clicked 🕐 before
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May 21, 2021 14:54
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Parrotine posted:TBH if he doesn't act on killing the filibuster he may be in danger of getting primaried during the next elections, voters are gonna be real salty on his rear end if the extremely slim window to pass anything meaningful over the next decade falters because if his stubbornness. If Manchin loses it will be to a republican in the general lol. he absolutely demolished the leftist primary challenger in ‘18. So if Manchin/Sinema do not budge then our only bet is to try and pick up at least 2 senate seats next year while losing none.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Sometimes my phone keyboard puts related emojis right up next to the keyboard automatically, I've definitely accidentally clicked 🕐 before Yeah, newer phones autosuggest emojis based on what words you type.
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May 21, 2021 15:02
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Oh is that what's going on with those gimmick emoji posters.
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May 21, 2021 15:11
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:He's already likely to lose his next election, which he has to understand. He went from commanding a clear lead in his first election to his most recent one basically being a dead heat. the rumor is he wants to run for governor, which would make sense, and why he is still maintaining his brand instead of just going "gently caress y'all, im leaving, i do what i want" like a high school senior in the spring people are getting better about realizing that who your senator supports for majority leader matters a lot more than what their views are, and so even well-liked democratic senators in red states are having a lot of trouble and have lost (heitkamp lost to someone who basically said "look we all love her, but we need a republican senator"). the same is not true of governors, which makes it a lot easier to talk people into crossing party lines to support someone from the opposite party for governor.
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May 21, 2021 15:12
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Spiritus Nox posted:What little I've gleaned of Sinema - especially her party hopping - makes her come across to me as too fundamentally shallow of a person to hold out for long as the lone defector on something important. Plus it's hard for me to imagine Biden or Schumer or the majority as a whole to keep playing nice for very long if they're truly down to literally one holdout. She might also be so shallow she holds out forever. Its possible she's actually just a lovely person, consider that she's being shittier than Manchin who actually does have the excuse of being probably the only Democrat alive who can win WV, whereas AZ has shown it can do better than her.
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May 21, 2021 15:17
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Vorik posted:That’s really cringe. He needs to stop 🛑 and step out of his persona for a moment. Maybe then he’ll realize how critical it is to nuke the filibuster. I don't really understand people who take everything that Manchin says at face value. It's politics, everything they say and do is performative, we should know this in the de facto politics thread. Manchin appears to be fishing for something that is important enough it gives him cover to go along with nuking the filibuster. He's made some noises about voting rights issues that could be interpreted both ways, but that was most likely going to result in a carve-out for voting stuff. I'll be damned if the GOP actually gives Manchin a bloody shirt over the commission stuff. Maybe I just became overly cynical because of the Trump years, but this commission issue being hosed with seems to be getting much more play than I expected. It would be just too on brand if the thing that finally gets us there is kabuki theater over a congressional commission and not voting rights, healthcare, or any of the critical life or death issues that we need to kill the filibuster for. I honestly read that statement by Manchin as a threat. Using the term "Patriots" is framing the issue in a way that reasonable minds cannot disagree, which is distinctively and dramatically different from the way Manchin typically frames things.
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May 21, 2021 15:28
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I used the term "performing" in the actual post, I think we're all on the same page.
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VitalSigns posted:Why would Israel freak out if it does nothing. Are you...are you familiar with Israel?
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zoux posted:I used the term "performing" in the actual post, I think we're all on the same page. I know, I wasn't reacting to you.
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Jarmak posted:I don't really understand people who take everything that Manchin says at face value. It's politics, everything they say and do is performative, we should know this in the de facto politics thread. I hope you're right, but I mean this is the first time in modern politics that we've come this close to nuking the legislative filibuster so it's hard to know what's theater and what are their actual positions. FWIW I'm not sure if there will be anything more important than HR1 and the AFP on Biden's agenda before midterms so if they're gonna pull the trigger, well, the clock's ticking.
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May 21, 2021 15:35
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The commission is the best choice for breaking the filibuster because a bunch of House Republicans voted for it after it gave Republicans a bunch of concessions. It is a bipartisan agreement. Any call that this is a Democratic power grab are swatted away with "it passed the house with a ton of Republican votes and gives Republicans equal power" boom done, put your fingers in your ears and say it again and again because any counter-arguments are meaningless.
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May 21, 2021 15:37
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1395730553249349635 Primary challenger to Liz Cheney
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May 21, 2021 15:43
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James Garfield posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1395730553249349635  Increasing confirmation that Qanon was entirely projection
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James Garfield posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1395730553249349635 According to the comments, they got married, then divorced, and then she killed herself when she was 20. We call this The Aristocrats!
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May 21, 2021 15:48
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mobby_6kl posted:According to the comments, they got married, then divorced, and then she killed herself when she was 20. Jesus christ, that poor woman.  Because the world is cruel, I predict this guy will be the winner of the anti-Cheney primary.
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May 21, 2021 15:52
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mobby_6kl posted:According to the comments, they got married, then divorced, and then she killed herself when she was 20. It was like the Romeo and Juliet story in that there was a suicide
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May 21, 2021 15:53
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So does this guy have a detailed explainer up on his campaign site about this yet or maybe a t-shirt that answers these questions
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May 21, 2021 15:56
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Like I get being 15/16 and dating a 14 year old to some capacity, but at 18 you look like an adult going to college, and she looks like a an early teen out of middle school. You are a pedophile dude. It's called "grooming". I'm sure this is one of those great defenders of child marriages. It's wierd how this sounds more and more like a statatory Rape covered up by a quick forced marriage, but based on Gaetz and Trump the GOP seems pretty into that
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James Garfield posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1395730553249349635 I guess Liz will live to see another term.
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evilweasel posted:traditionally there is no such thing as proxy voting. right now because of covid the house has limited proxy voting There is one (1) senator I'm aware of who was convicted and sentenced to jail but continued to serve: Truman Newberry, elevator aficionado and star of a somewhat dumb Supreme Court case in 1921. He was found guilty of election overspending against Henry Ford (lol) and sentenced to two years in prison. Now, I can't find clear reporting about when or whether he actually wound up serving time, but the Senate allowed him to stay a while during his appeal process. I'm almost certain that last time I looked this up he did in fact cast votes in the Senate between his conviction/sentencing and the Supreme Court reversing his conviction. Having trouble finding the citation for the voting on el telefono. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 16:19 on May 21, 2021 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:He was found guilty of election overspending against Henry Ford (lol) and sentenced to two years in prison. This was a felony offense at one point?
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zoux posted:This was a felony offense at one point? Only because the opponent was a Nazi.
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zoux posted:This was a felony offense at one point? violated a clause of the federal corrupt practices act of 1910: thou shalt not spend more than ten thousand dollars of thy own money on thy senate election well, originally convicted for a violation, the supreme court decided he didn't because primary elections aren't elections, so congress can't regulate anything about them Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 16:21 on May 21, 2021 |
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