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Someone brought up Final Fantasy Tactics, and that has a really good one where if your Bravery stat gets debuffed to a certain point, iirc something like below 10, your unit gets turned into a chicken and runs away until they they gain enough Brave (it regens slowly) to be at 10 again.
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Don't forget the Boots in Symphony that increase his height by one pixel
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I liked the doom equivalent status effect in Fantasian which is literally just a time bomb strapped to your character and requires a defusal kit to get rid of.
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Last Celebration posted:Someone brought up Final Fantasy Tactics, and that has a really good one where if your Bravery stat gets debuffed to a certain point, iirc something like below 10, your unit gets turned into a chicken and runs away until they they gain enough Brave (it regens slowly) to be at 10 again. I found this interesting because there was pretty much no reason to ever use it other than to see if it worked Reducing an enemy character's Brave stat to that extent was AFAIK always much harder than neutralizing them in pretty much any other way
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May 20, 2021 15:34
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Phantasium posted:the Alucart status from Symphony of the Night, where if you equip all the knockoff Alucart gear it changes your name on the status screen ( though also giving you 30 luck) Too bad Castlevania died before we could fight Tracula.
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loquacius posted:I found this interesting because there was pretty much no reason to ever use it other than to see if it worked Iirc Beowulf can do like -50 Brave at once with Chicken, which is pretty good sinxe one even one cast on a 60+ Brave guy can still nerf knight swords/fists and iirc monster attacks.
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Last Celebration posted:Iirc Beowulf can do like -50 Brave at once with Chicken, which is pretty good sinxe one even one cast on a 60+ Brave guy can still nerf knight swords/fists and iirc monster attacks. dang, I actually didn't know Chicken did that much Brave damage, because Beowulf can also cast Break and instantly petrify stuff
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May 20, 2021 15:52
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Lunar Suite posted:dangit, I was really looking forward to RF5. Now I'm no longer sure. yeah its really disappointing, i spent the last 4 months getting ready for this so it doesn't hurt as much but im still just so bummed lmao
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May 20, 2021 16:18
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Could have just given me the portrait swap tbh.
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May 20, 2021 16:25
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I will never smooch anyone in any game that allows me that freedom, but still a bummer here.
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loquacius posted:dang, I actually didn't know Chicken did that much Brave damage, because Beowulf can also cast Break and instantly petrify stuff Or HP drain the final boss for 999(x2) damage.
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May 20, 2021 16:42
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KariOhki posted:Some Suikoden games had the Balloon status effect where if you get three balloons on you, that character is removed from battle because they floated off. But it's okay, because there was equipment that protected you from it. The Pointy Hat, because they popped. Also, in Suikoden Tactics, if you could get just two balloons it boosted your jump height. Third one was still an ejection from battle, though, so be careful with this.
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May 20, 2021 17:54
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It's so dumb, I haven't played Rune Factory but my understanding of the games it doesn't seem like it would hard at all to make the romance options not care about protagonist gender and I doubt there's anyone who was planning on buying the game but was so homophobic that that would make them change their mind.
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the series director has hang ups about how he thinks they should make explicitly gay characters instead of making everyone bi which would be understandable if these were games that had massive casts and budgets to keep making more options and not games that at the height of their resources look like a ps2 game that dips down to 20fps this is extra weird because rune factory 4 did not gender lock initial romance events, it only locked the ability, to propose. given story of seasons it's obvious there's nothing stopping rune factory from going the same route
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yeah it sounds like BS to me, like no matter your gender characters blushing and going weak knee at the stuff you are saying in RF4 and again in rf4 you have like two dudes who are pretty clearly into each other
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theres probably no actual logic to it. it just didnt really occur to them as something important to add. trying to read logic into it is attributing too much malice to it, giving them too much credit, and gives idiots avenue with which to counter argue about why it is/isn't worth it. if you don't wanna buy the game because it doesn't have it, that's fair. if you do buy the game, find some official avenue to voice your displeasure with the lack of the option, be it official forums, feedback surveys jp game companies tend to post up every now and then, etc. when the game come out in the west it'll probably be mentioned in every single review it gets, so hopefully it's something they notice and respond to.
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May 20, 2021 19:15
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are the "i am setsuna" games sequential or can be played in any order?
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i can read what i want into it, which is they don't really care and are just making up excuses which is dumb. im still going to play the game.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:are the "i am setsuna" games sequential or can be played in any order? i didn't even know there was more than one
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i dont think there's a setsuna canon they're just all games by tokyo rpg factory
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May 20, 2021 19:30
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Its weird that neo twewy is selling the collecter editionstuff separately outside of Japan I love the first game enough is drop another 40 on some knickknacks but an extra $100 for some trinkets and a soundtrack?
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May 20, 2021 19:37
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GreenBuckanneer posted:are the "i am setsuna" games sequential or can be played in any order? The stories/worlds aren't connected in any way so the order doesn't matter.
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There is only one way to order an empty set, anyway.
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OddObserver posted:There is only one way to order an empty set, anyway. god drat said it better than I would have
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The female mc in rf5 looks way cuter to me than the guy so I'm super sad I can't look cute and romance girls at the same time. Oh well, still gonna get it since I've been really craving more rune factory.
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i enjoy the writing in mega man star force but man basically everything about this game's design just makes it feel like they made a version of battle network where everything related to the cyberworld and combat are much worse and have like half the personality they used to huh the worst part is probably how on top of limiting your movement to three tiles they, still give enemies aoe attacks. so sometimes you literally just cannot avoid enemy attacks because you only have three tiles and their attack, covers all three, and you have no opportunity to try and dodge by teleporting in front of them with an attack chip. The Colonel fucked around with this message at 07:39 on May 21, 2021 |
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Don't you get a shield to block those AoE moves? Not that it makes it much better, battle system's still just a shadow of Battle Network either way
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Yeah I dunno they didn't just keep making MMBN forever. I mean, I guess they were probably dropping off in sales, but did Star Force do any better?
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I got scared about the move to 3D for Rune Factory and it seems I was not misguided. None of the 3D Harvest moon games did it for me and I was hoping RF5 would break the curse. I'm getting sick of Stardew and RF4
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Clarste posted:Yeah I dunno they didn't just keep making MMBN forever. I mean, I guess they were probably dropping off in sales, but did Star Force do any better? honestly battle network wasn't really dropping off that hard, there's a big dip after bn4 because. well. bn4. but 6 was actually slowly climbing back up, it sold notably better than 5 capcom just... decided bn6 had to be the ending of the entire series. for some reason. and then decided star force should throw out half of the polishing that bn had done over the years so while its new writing stuff is decent its gameplay is just inexplicably worse lol. that coupled with randomly jumping to a new series out of nowhere is probably why star force did not, keep up the momentum that bn5 and 6 were building back up
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i will say the weirdest thing about star force as an actual continuation is how like. divorced it feels from key elements of bn's setting. like i get that things change over the years but the fact that navis literally just barely exist now is like. ok. i... guess those robot bodies built specifically so navis could live irl alongside regular people didn't see any real use then?? it feels more like a second weird branch off the timeline alongside battle network rather than like, an actual progression off of bn6 which is funny to contrast with the mega man zx games pretty definitively building their storytelling off the zero series. why are the platformers better at this than the rpgs.
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The Colonel posted:honestly battle network wasn't really dropping off that hard, there's a big dip after bn4 because. well. bn4. but 6 was actually slowly climbing back up, it sold notably better than 5 Tbh it kinda always seemed like there was a huge degree of turnover between BN3 and BN4 cause even ignoring the overambitious jank pile 4 turned out to be iirc there’s a definite shift from 1-3’s encouraged playstyle and 4-6, so maybe Star Forces was just even more turnover. Iirc it tracks with a lot of the Mega Man franchise as a whole.
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RareAcumen posted:Anyway, I don't play any niche RPGs, anyone have any examples of unique status effects in anything you've played? More things need to make left side Ataxia a problem you've got to deal with. The MegaTen games have had a lot of somewhat offbeat ones. Bomb was already mentioned, but another one that comes to mind is the Fly status effect when fighting Beelzebub in Devil Survivor. If you don't cure it quickly, the character takes a bunch of damage and fly monsters spawn around them.
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Thuryl posted:The MegaTen games have had a lot of somewhat offbeat ones. Bomb was already mentioned, but another one that comes to mind is the Fly status effect when fighting Beelzebub in Devil Survivor. If you don't cure it quickly, the character takes a bunch of damage and fly monsters spawn around them.
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megami tensei 2 has the Lost Arm status ailment, when the protag's arm with the comp gets cut off and you gotta get a new one while taking damage
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Clarste posted:Yeah I dunno they didn't just keep making MMBN forever. I mean, I guess they were probably dropping off in sales, but did Star Force do any better? It could be that other titles (Street Fighter, RE, Monster Hunter) were doing just that much better and the benefit of additional seasoned devs for those teams was worth more than continuing the MMBN games even if the games were profitable but not nearly as much as the bigger series. Booky posted:megami tensei 2 has the Lost Arm status ailment, when the protag's arm with the comp gets cut off and you gotta get a new one while taking damage Dragon Quest 3 had the Limbo spell which, instead of killing you like Beat/Defeat, sent your party member back to the tavern in Alliahan and the spell explicitly cannot work on the hero (because even back then they knew people would run heroless parties I guess, or because casting it on a solo hero probably broke the game).
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Last Celebration posted:Tbh it kinda always seemed like there was a huge degree of turnover between BN3 and BN4 cause even ignoring the overambitious jank pile 4 turned out to be iirc there’s a definite shift from 1-3’s encouraged playstyle and 4-6, so maybe Star Forces was just even more turnover. Iirc it tracks with a lot of the Mega Man franchise as a whole. It would not surprise me if they burned out a bunch of employees with these games because like, they released all 6 Battle Networks over 5 years. That's an absolutely breakneck pace. And like, yeah, Capcom's a bit notorious for doing that sort of thing, but even the classic Mega Man series took 7 years for the first 6 games. It's honestly a miracle the games are as good as they are (excepting 4).
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May 21, 2021 20:03
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oh yeah ff5 had the Old ailment, where your stats got gradually lowered iirc!
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I always liked the Trouble status effect from FF9, where if the character inflicted with Trouble gets hit, everyone else takes damage, too (with the icon implying it's because they won't stop whining about it)
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