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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



lmao

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CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
This is my shocked face.

:yaycloud:

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/NavalInstitute/status/1396196102458720256?s=19

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008




The WWII Merchant Marine memorial is one of the bleakest I’ve ever heard of. It’s a sculpture of a few people crowded at the bow of a ship, situated right at the tide line. At low tide, the hand of a person is visible reaching out of the water, and one of the guys on the bow of the ship is reaching for it; it’s just out of reach, and at each high tide that hand goes back underwater.

Example of some insanity from a ship/wreck (the John D. Gill) I used to dive off of Wilmington, NC, where the first merchant marine Distinguished Service Medal was earned.

quote:

For heroism above and beyond the call of duty during enemy attack when he released and launched a life-raft from a sinking and burning ship and maneuvered it through a pool of burning oil to clear water by swimming under water, coming up only to breathe. Although he had incurred severe burns about the face and arms in this action, he then guided four of his shipmates to the raft, and swam to and rescued two others who were injured and unable to help themselves. His extraordinary courage and disregard of his own safety in thus rescuing his shipmates will be an enduring inspiration to seamen of the United States Merchant Marine everywhere.

For the President
Admiral Emory Scott Land

His name was Edwin Cheney, and his ship was (in this order):
Torpedoed by a U-boat (cracking open their oil storage and spilling it everywhere)
Set on fire (someone threw a life ring into the water, which had a self-igniting flare on it...cue the apocalyptic inferno that would actually sink the ship)
Exploded a few times (in addition to the oil, there were a few armed naval guard aboard with a small magazine of 4” shells, iirc)
Capsized (spilling a lifeboat full of sailors into the water just ahead of the still-spinning screws)
Broken in half as she finally went under the next morning.

There are plenty more like him on this page.

http://www.usmm.org/heroes.html

The wreck site (as it was last I dove it, in 2017) is a total mess. It’s more like a twisted and angry mass of steel that only vaguely resembles the ship it once was, with debris scattered all over the place and nothing with more than 10-15ft of vertical relief off the sea floor. Afloat, the ship was ~540ft long. On the bottom, the wreck site spans somewhere around 800ft, with about 200ft between bow and stern sections.
Looking at the entire site, you start getting the feeling that she went down hard.

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Icon Of Sin posted:

The WWII Merchant Marine memorial is one of the bleakest I’ve ever heard of. It’s a sculpture of a few people crowded at the bow of a ship, situated right at the tide line. At low tide, the hand of a person is visible reaching out of the water, and one of the guys on the bow of the ship is reaching for it; it’s just out of reach, and at each high tide that hand goes back underwater.


Goddamn :stare:

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

That dude deserved a loving MOH.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

bulletsponge13 posted:

That dude deserved a loving MOH.

He was a civilian, DoT has their own stuff.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

lightpole posted:

He was a civilian, DoT has their own stuff.

I misread that he had received the DSC.

Still lovely. And makes the Merchant Marine/Mobile Infantry bit in Starship Troopers.

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


I will never stop recommending the WW2 museum in New Orleans. They have a pretty good merchant marine exhibit.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Definitely.

Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?

Milo and POTUS posted:

Oh it's that vid? I saw it on reddit a while back instead it was nuclear energy holding back climate change or whatever.

Does anyone know the actual origin

It was an original animation piece from 10 years ago with no political labelling. After being in the animation industry for a while If my short form film was being perverted into political hackery like that, I'd be pissed. Usually that stuff gets served with DMCA takedown notices pretty quick if its up on a video site.

Big K of Justice fucked around with this message at 03:55 on May 23, 2021

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


joat mon posted:

Definitely.


The picture that inspired it is even more :stare: and :smith:


Backstory,
https://turnstiletours.com/the-photo-that-inspired-of-the-merchant-mariners-memorial/

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Soylent Pudding posted:

I will never stop recommending the WW2 museum in New Orleans. They have a pretty good merchant marine exhibit.

New Orleans isngreat to visit and I enjoyed the museum overall, but it really shows that it started as the D-Day Museum and then later became the WW II museum. Especially with the hastily added “oh there was a pacific theater too, and I guess Russians may have existed?” vibe later in the museum.

But hey, it’s pretty cool, has AC, and is in a cool city!

WW1 museum in Kansas City, MO is also great. And is just awesome from an architectural/aesthetic standpoint. And it’s close to a really good art museum.

mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 09:38 on May 23, 2021

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

I don't know what this is.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Stultus Maximus posted:

I don't know what this is.

An alt-coin. Think of alt-coins like penny stocks. They all have hopes and dreams of Elon tweeting about them, but they are all throw-away investments for the most part. There's a tweet saying they were hacked, but :shrugs:.

A colleague is heavily into crypto, and one of his main reasons is crypto doesn't count for FAFSA.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

I’d apply for financial aid too after losing all my money to crypto.

bengy81
May 8, 2010
Man, all this crypto drama lately really makes me wish there was a :zaurg: thread.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
The cspam Doomsday Economics thread is pretty much the trainwreck thread. Also the car trading thread. And the house prices talk thread. Lots of optimism over market blood.

Apparently the more serious stock cspam goons have made their own investing thread, because Doomsday thread advice is, "do the opposite of what goons say."

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Generally sound advice tbf

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Yeah, as a whole, goons are often wrong. It's crowd mentality and when everyone is screaming for blood, it's easy to fall into the doomer perspective.

But the lols in that thread make it worth reading regularly.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Apparently the more serious stock cspam goons have made their own investing thread, because Doomsday thread advice is, "do the opposite of what goons say."

The boring / long term investment thread in Ask/Tell is useful.

And IMO, not incompatible at all with a gloomy doomy outlook.

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah

TCD posted:

A colleague is heavily into crypto, and one of his main reasons is crypto doesn't count for FAFSA.

Gotta love means tests. I remember looking at food stamps at one point and I'm pretty sure the eligibility criteria was suggesting I should liquidate some 401k to pay for food before I come begging the good people of State

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
If you want a literal trainwreck thread, there’s “Locomotive Insanity” in AI.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

mlmp08 posted:

The boring / long term investment thread in Ask/Tell is useful.

And IMO, not incompatible at all with a gloomy doomy outlook.

I don't have the money for boring, long term investments. Gloom and doom it is!


I mean, realistically, the Doomsday Economics thread is more like window shopping for laughs, there's no way I'd take any investment advice from cspam, no matter the thread or intent.

Hannibal Rex
Feb 13, 2010
When was the last time we had a government-sponsored airplane hijacking? Belarus just decided it wants to be the Somalia of the skies.

Sacrist65
Mar 24, 2007
Frunnkiss

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

I don't have the money for boring, long term investments. Gloom and doom it is!


I mean, realistically, the Doomsday Economics thread is more like window shopping for laughs, there's no way I'd take any investment advice from cspam, no matter the thread or intent.

Somehow they timed the AMC/BB trade, a bunch of people made money off it. Broken clock etc etc.

I read the "attack of the 50 foot blockchain" bitcoin book in 2016? by that goon and swore off crypto because of it . I made the mistake of telling people at work that bitcoin is like beanie babies for white guys with beards so everyone has been showing me their coin base accounts with a smug rear end grin.*

*until ~2weeks ago.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I don't know that they timed that, so much as read the already newsmaking because of Gamestop WSB reddit and playing with that info. No one there was calling that in advance, but it was fun to watch, especially when Robinhood and the like were going down, restricting purchases and sales, openly manipulating the market with no real threat of punishment.

Wild times, man, wild times.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
My trading results improved dramatically when I left the goon trading/investing discord and stopped going to BFC. Go figure that when learning a skill that involves objectivity and discipline getting away from a group of goons was positive. Weird.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
Goons used to be good for picking value computer parts, but I think they were ultimately replaced with an algorithm.

Other than that they have great fashion advice!

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Trade results tip: buy tax-advantaged diversified, low-cost funds first. Then do that minus tax-advantaged if you can.

Let sit for 10-50 years. Don’t poke it.

In that 10-50 years you have a lot of time to learn the basics of how/when to withdraw that money.

If space communism strikes and your funds go to the greater good, enjoy the space communism!

If the world ends suddenly in hellfire, oh well.

If the world goes to poo poo generally (yes), it will probably take long enough for your savings to keep you more comfortable during decline. No guarantees for your kids or grandkids if you have any.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
That money will largely be spent on medical bills to keep you alive an extra 6 months or a year. Invest now so you can see 79 instead of 78!

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I'm confident the boomers can somehow gently caress things up to where the old investing paradigms are rendered useless for average peoole on their way out the door

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

maffew buildings posted:

I'm confident the boomers can somehow gently caress things up to where the old investing paradigms are rendered useless for average peoole on their way out the door

Cryptocurrency is doing this nicely

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

maffew buildings posted:

I'm confident the boomers can somehow gently caress things up to where the old investing paradigms are rendered useless for average people on their way out the door

Oh, we're already there. Crypto's fast becoming a laundering vehicle for banks and billionaires, and the GameStop bullshit exposed the stock market for the fixed lottery it's been becoming for a while now.

Pretty much all Millennials have left for investment vehicles is going long on Funko Pops and toilet paper. None of us will ever get to retire. We will work until we die.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
The D&D Eastern Europe thread is always a good read. Looks like Belarus just hijacked a plane in order to nab an opponent of the regime.
https://twitter.com/yuvalweber/status/1396481381648240642?s=19

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Yeah the MiG-29 'escort' was a bit bond villain

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

Trade results tip: buy tax-advantaged diversified, low-cost funds first. Then do that minus tax-advantaged if you can.

Let sit for 10-50 years. Don’t poke it.

In that 10-50 years you have a lot of time to learn the basics of how/when to withdraw that money.

If space communism strikes and your funds go to the greater good, enjoy the space communism!

If the world ends suddenly in hellfire, oh well.

If the world goes to poo poo generally (yes), it will probably take long enough for your savings to keep you more comfortable during decline. No guarantees for your kids or grandkids if you have any.

I moved a big chunk of my savings out of USAA and into an all stock mutual fund now that I’m maxing out my tax advantaged stuff and it feels good to have an interest rate higher than 0.02% finally.

Still sucks seeing coworkers randomly make $200k on loving crypto gambling but the guy said he had to spend it on medical debt lmao

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 17:37 on May 23, 2021

Arven
Sep 23, 2007

Fallom posted:


Still sucks seeing coworkers randomly make $200k on loving crypto gambling but the guy said he had to spend it on medical debt lmao

If it makes you feel any better the only people pulling out their crypto gains from dogecoin are the ones who needed the money for something like that. The rest of them are riding it back down out of the hope it shoots up to a dollar, never mind the fact that if they cashed out now they still have like a 200% gain.


Our whole generation has realized the only way they'll be able to retire is to lottery and are acting accordingly.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
Short term speculating for serious profit is 100% doable. It just requires a lot of mental/emotional attributes, work ethic, commitment to riding out an learning curve brutal almost beyond words and other challenges that kind of don't line up with the fatalistic gambling young people are doing. But that's cool, the Fed will get to point to everyone who got annihilated in the market to enact regulations stacking the deck further in favor of hedge funds (the real victims here)

maffew buildings fucked around with this message at 18:15 on May 23, 2021

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bengy81
May 8, 2010
Is it even possible for doge to hit a dollar? I thought the rate new coins generated basically made it impossible for it to be anything but a shitcoin?

Goddamn I wish zaurg was around.

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