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You could put that into the pizza shop sequence in Nightmare on Elm Street 4 and I don't think anyone would notice.
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Geshtal posted:Pandas do. Every panda on earth hates every other panda and will only breed under the most begrudging of circumstances. IIRC, the problem is specifically breeding them in captivity. Turns out they don't like having sex in a cage with researchers watching, who knew? Out in the wild they do whatever, but the main problem is the loss of habitat.
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May 22, 2021 02:56
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Just eat loving meat like a REAL BEAR and not a specific variety of one plant that has like NO calories, so you have to spend 90% of your time just EATING
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May 22, 2021 03:05
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Shugojin posted:Redcloak and Xykon would have likely attacked Azure City without the hobgoblins, it would just have been a different army of undead or lizard folk or anyone a very powerful lich could bully into it. At most O-chul is responsible for a detail about the army. I dunno. They just need one gate and although stomping out nations is fun for them, they seemed more like "well we're saddled with an army, and this is the easiest gate to get to if we're dragging them along" https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0300.html
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May 22, 2021 03:52
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Wrong thread
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May 22, 2021 03:53
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I just came to say that "Can't a dwarf have five minutes to solve worldwide multigenerational inequality" is a great punchline.
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May 22, 2021 07:14
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Johnny Aztec posted:Just eat loving meat like a REAL BEAR and not a specific variety of one plant that has like NO calories, so you have to spend 90% of your time just EATING Are pandas the only 100% herbivorous Carnivores? Probably not, but I can't think of any others off the top of my head.
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May 22, 2021 14:41
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NihilCredo posted:"Deliberately" is the key word here I think - nobody really wants to kill the pandas for its own sake, they just want the land they live in and don't care if they go extinct. But Killing the mosquitos is something we're doing, or thinking about doing, specifically with the ultimate goal of "I don't want those mosquitoes to exist anymore". if pandas were even a bit more interesting they'd totally be up there with elephants and tigers in the trophy hunting bigleagues where retired dentists pay the locals ten thousand bucks to drag a drugged-up one in front of them so they can shoot it and pose with the corpse I guess there's a subtle philosophical difference between "I don't want this species to exist anymore" and "I will pay handsomely for the privilege of personally getting to kill the very last one", but that feels like you're making "deliberately" do a lot of extra work the word to paper over that if there was a button you could push to exterminate most animals and/or wide swaths of humanity, you almost certainly personally know someone who'd jump at the opportunity A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 15:33 on May 22, 2021 |
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May 22, 2021 15:15
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I'm pretty sure there's another animal that's a simple example, but I can't really remember. If you zoom out way far in the evolutionary scale, there's a lot of herbivorous species today that ostensibly descend from carnivores, but it takes a hell of a long time to evolve a digestive tract that can process plants (especially the less edible ones). By contrast, it's extremely easy for a digestive tract adapted towards processing plants to switch over to eating meat. To the point that even a lot of animals traditionally thought of as herbivores and do spend most of their time eating plants are regularly spotted every so often eating meat, like deer. The hard bit about being a carnivore is in adapting to hunting and killing prey. The digestion is easy.
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May 22, 2021 15:30
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How do you even get an entire successful species the size of a bear to subsist entirely on such a crappy food as bamboo anyway, the amount of events that have to happen to make that work seem crazy.
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May 22, 2021 15:42
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Nilbop posted:How do you even get an entire successful species the size of a bear to subsist entirely on such a crappy food as bamboo anyway, the amount of events that have to happen to make that work seem crazy. A series of entirely reasonable and logical choices in-the-moment that, with the benefit of hindsight, all add up to a terrible situation is a common base for tragedy. And comedy!
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May 22, 2021 15:54
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Hello. My name is Johnny Aztec, and I have Opinions.GlyphGryph posted:Are pandas the only 100% herbivorous Carnivores? Koalas, while not being carnivores, also suck major rear end. They get little value from the leaves they eat, their teeth aren't suited for eating leaves, so Koalas that live long die from STARVATION because the leaves grind their teeth away. Also, the leaves are both a drug and a poison. Koalas are low-key stoned, off leaves that they cant really digest and ultimately kills them. It's like evolution said " We evolved them wrong, as a joke". Sheep are incredibly, incredibly stupid, but humans BRED out any intelligence to make them easier to herd. Koalas are just smooth brained wastes of flesh and fur. Also, gently caress horses. It is absolutely amazing they managed to survive
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Johnny Aztec posted:Hello. My name is Johnny Aztec, and I have Opinions.
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Johnny Aztec posted:They get little value from the leaves they eat, their teeth aren't suited for eating leaves, so Koalas that live long die from STARVATION because the leaves grind their teeth away. edit: Taciturn Tactician posted:Koalas are the one of very few creatures that can even kind of eat eucalyptus though, so they have zero competetion for food. There's a reason that koalas aren't endangered. Even if they have a weird lovely food source, they can live long enough off it to keep the species going and no one's gonna fight them for it. At least, until some sort of huge catastrophe happens and all of a sudden it's a very good time to not be overspecialized into depending on a highly specific set of circumstances. *(actually I just looked this up and elephants get SIX sets. Even then they live so damned long in ideal circumstances that it's not impossible for them to die via running out of teeth). Drakyn fucked around with this message at 19:17 on May 22, 2021 |
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May 22, 2021 19:13
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Drakyn posted:In all fairness this is something that can happen to elephants and deer too. Mammals only really get the two sets of teeth so either they cheat and keep some of them growing forever (fuckin' rodents) or they're sort of uniquely hosed if they're relatively longer-lived and eating particularly stubborn foods (read: plants). For a non-mammalian example that was doing a lot of plant-chewing and didn't have this problem, hadrosaurs had INCREDIBLE teeth - giant batteries of files packed into sort of grinding hellpads - and every single individuated tooth was disposable and quickly replaced, like some sort of terrifying vegetarian shark. I mean, the same thing does happen to Humans. In cultures around desert areas, the sand/grits get in everything and wears the teeth down.
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True, it's just that humans - although they don't exactly LIKE having no teeth - tend to have comparatively more alternatives available other than 'starve to death'.
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Clarste posted:IIRC, the problem is specifically breeding them in captivity. Turns out they don't like having sex in a cage with researchers watching, who knew? Out in the wild they do whatever, but the main problem is the loss of habitat. The actual problem is that male pandas only learn how to do the sex thing by watching older male pandas having sex. Which is why they decided to fix the problem by showing them panda porn.
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May 22, 2021 20:50
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Shadowlyger posted:The actual problem is that male pandas only learn how to do the sex thing by watching older male pandas having sex. So that's why a druid killed the oracle once...
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Koalas are the one of very few creatures that can even kind of eat eucalyptus though, so they have zero competetion for food. There's a reason that koalas aren't endangered. Even if they have a weird lovely food source, they can live long enough off it to keep the species going and no one's gonna fight them for it. Too many people think evolution is some kind of guided event rather then the random circumstances that it actually is
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Koala's also poop in their babies' mouths, and if they don't do that the baby will starve to death because it will NEVER be able to digest the leaves. Their survival is completely dependent on consuming the feces of their parents.
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May 22, 2021 22:25
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rabbits have to eat their own poo poo. poo poo eating is not uncommon among leaf eaters with awful digestion
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May 22, 2021 22:34
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Yeah but rabbits eat their own poo poo to digest it twice. That's a lot better than having to poo poo in babies' mouths to feed them bacteria. Just poo poo on your babies when you give birth like a normal animal.
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GlyphGryph posted:herbivorous Carnivores?. Now I didn't get great marks in science but I think this is a contradiction
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Acerbatus posted:Now I didn't get great marks in science but I think this is a contradiction Pandas are weird. They are pretty clearly intended to be meat eaters. They have a carnivore's teeth.  They have a carnivore's digestive system. Their gut flora that are better at breaking down protein than plant matter, which is why they are so bad at extracting nutrition from bamboo. On top of that they have a relatively short intestinal system that doesn't have time to fully extract nutrition from plants. Only something like ~15% of the plant matter they eat gets fully digested before it's excreted, which is why they have to eat so much of it. Despite all this, they really only eat plants. So they're herbivorous but also carnivores.
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Do you want to spend all day hunting food that runs faster than you, or would you prefer sitting on your rear end all day eating yummy stuff without growing dangerously obese?
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Acerbatus posted:Now I didn't get great marks in science but I think this is a contradiction "Carnivora" is the order of mammals that includes all felids and canids (with bears falling under the canids) so they are "carnivores" in the taxonomical sense but not necessarily carnivores in the dietary sense.
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nimby posted:Do you want to spend all day hunting food that runs faster than you, or would you prefer sitting on your rear end all day eating yummy stuff without growing dangerously obese? Didn't they at some point lose the sense of flavour that makes meat taste good? Yeah, they lost the ability to taste unami around the same time they switched to an all bamboo diet. https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/why-did-the-pandas-ancestors-ditch-meat-for-bamboo You can give captive pandas meat and they'll eat it, they just won't seek it out aggressively. So yeah, I'd rather sit around all day eating junk food than chase down sawdust-flavoured healthy meals.
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Random thought I forget if anyone brought up: The real tunnels, not the teleporters Team Evil went through, probably lead to Serini's place, don't they?
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Johnny Aztec posted:Also, gently caress horses. It is absolutely amazing they managed to survive Thought about a bumblebee and died
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Cats apparently invested hard into becoming predators because they lost the ability to taste sweet things.jsoh posted:rabbits have to eat their own poo poo. poo poo eating is not uncommon among leaf eaters with awful digestion Huh, that explains how you get nutrition out of greens when you have a tiny, tiny digestive system. Run them through multiple times.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Also, gently caress horses. It is absolutely amazing they managed to survive I specify herbivorous mammals, because lol cheetahs.
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There are only two mammals that have figured out sweating, which is crucial for running for long periods of time, of which horses are one. A cheetah would overheat and collapse if it had to cover the distance a horse could. I bring this up chiefly to point out that the other one is a predator, which has the unique hunting niche of being able to chase its prey until it collapses from exhaustion, which is gnarly as hell.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:There are only two mammals that have figured out sweating, which is crucial for running for long periods of time, of which horses are one. A cheetah would overheat and collapse if it had to cover the distance a horse could. (The second one is humans) 
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:There are only two mammals that have figured out sweating, which is crucial for running for long periods of time, of which horses are one. A cheetah would overheat and collapse if it had to cover the distance a horse could. oh, so that's why horses smell like rear end
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goblin week posted:oh, so that's why horses smell like rear end They are our Stink Brothers yes.
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From an evolutionary standpoint, humans are goddamn terrifying in many respects, in terms of where we can live, what we can safely consume, how we hunt, and that's before you factor in things like tool usage.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I bring this up chiefly to point out that the other one is a predator, which has the unique hunting niche of being able to chase its prey until it collapses from exhaustion, which is gnarly as hell. W.T. Fits posted:From an evolutionary standpoint, humans are goddamn terrifying in many respects, in terms of where we can live, what we can safely consume, how we hunt, and that's before you factor in things like tool usage. If you find the "translate everything into gamer terms" gimmick amusing, TierZoo has a lot of great videos that touch on these kinds of subjects. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJzJtm7OfdQ
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:There are only two mammals that have figured out sweating, which is crucial for running for long periods of time, of which horses are one. A cheetah would overheat and collapse if it had to cover the distance a horse could. And yet a human can theoretically beat a horse in an endurance race. Really, the only thing that runs on land that we can't is a wolf, and that's exclusive to cold climates.
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A.o.D. posted:And yet a human can theoretically beat a horse in an endurance race. Really, the only thing that runs on land that we can't is a wolf, and that's exclusive to cold climates. Theoretically?
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W.T. Fits posted:From an evolutionary standpoint, humans are goddamn terrifying in many respects, in terms of where we can live, what we can safely consume, how we hunt, and that's before you factor in things like tool usage. And language. If even a single human works out a hole in your hard-won evolutionary strategies, the entire nearby human population can start exploiting it before you have time to breed even a single new generation. The human that works it out might not even have encountered your species.
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