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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Don't hate on Dreks

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Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


poverty ikitursas

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

I'm a space poor so I can't imagine flying a 1b+ HAC into pvp.

rocketrobot
Jul 11, 2003

Floppychop posted:

I'm a space poor so I can't imagine flying a 1b+ HAC into pvp.

I thought they were less now

Nyan Bread
Mar 17, 2006

Nothing wrong with wanting to fly fast Ikitursas and date Triglavian actresses

Scikar
Nov 20, 2005

5? Seriously?

rocketrobot posted:

I thought they were less now

It's like 800m for the hull and another 100m for the gun just to start with. The Veles guns are dropping in price though

Nyan Bread
Mar 17, 2006

So it looks like Ol' Papi's lost the critical mass of groomed pubbies needed for the 3 to 1 blob of the 1DQ constellation and many of their members are deciding to win Eve after the unopposed structure bash advertised by their leadership as the end-all of Goons. The most diehard Tapis are taking to Reddit to try and provoke an Imperium counter-offensive in hopes of riling up their dwindling ally playerbase into a resulting counterattack, but we seem to be holding fast in the face our enemy's crumbling morale.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Rutibex posted:

I never actually sold any, I just assumed I could for about half the rate that CCP does if I put some effort into it :shrug:

Assuming you could actually move the isk in large volume, not part and parcel it bit by bit, and you know- not get banned/wallet set negative'd.

CCP does a lot of things wrong, but the one thing they home the gently caress in on is people taking money from them. I made an extremely half-assed attempt at testing the waters for selling isk when I quit after the casino war, and it was waaaaaaay more loving effort than it was worth.




Edit: I'm semi-curious what dumb nonsense you said to get that av, but also, not, because that would imply delving through your post history.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 09:07 on May 24, 2021

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

If CCP can figure out RMT so easily that what the gently caress is stopping them from even making a passing attempt at going after bots?

Hell, just idling in Jita and nailing the spam that's obviously from scripts would help. Just do an IP ban after X amount of character bans.

Dik Hz
Feb 22, 2004

Fun with Science

Floppychop posted:

If CCP can figure out RMT so easily that what the gently caress is stopping them from even making a passing attempt at going after bots?

Hell, just idling in Jita and nailing the spam that's obviously from scripts would help. Just do an IP ban after X amount of character bans.
They have to be really, really careful not to ban legitimate people. If you ban a bot, they're back ASAP, even with IP ban. If you ban a legitimate person, you just nuked a customer for life, and potentially their friends and corp as well.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Xolve posted:

Assuming you could actually move the isk in large volume, not part and parcel it bit by bit, and you know- not get banned/wallet set negative'd.

CCP does a lot of things wrong, but the one thing they home the gently caress in on is people taking money from them. I made an extremely half-assed attempt at testing the waters for selling isk when I quit after the casino war, and it was waaaaaaay more loving effort than it was worth.

it cant be that hard i would just do one of those "reverse scams" where someone buys a lovely contract from me "accidentally"

Xolve posted:

Edit: I'm semi-curious what dumb nonsense you said to get that av, but also, not, because that would imply delving through your post history.

I'm really bad at Path of Exile and for some reason people take that very personally. you dont need to check my post history you can scope my rap sheet for the highlights of the PoE thread

Rutibex fucked around with this message at 13:03 on May 24, 2021

angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010

Scikar posted:

It's like 800m for the hull and another 100m for the gun just to start with. The Veles guns are dropping in price though

I make some of my isk from abyssals, I was making a lot of the BPCs just to make it easier to sell 1 ship rather than 900 of those trig mats that I'd constantly get undercut on

But now with the indy changes I'm pretty much just making the guns because I can't be bothered getting the other stuff (yet)

I imagine this is causing the non-ship trig stuff to come down in price because it's an easy way to cash out the abyssal loot

I have like 10 T2 heavy guns just waiting for veles BPC drops which will triple my money

I might go back to doing leshaks if the market settles

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

hey what was your "success" rate for "bumps" ? I've practiced the last couple of days and I've gotten it to around 50%

i think CCP is gonna have to fix this, it's incredibly consistent and busted

Brooks Cracktackle
Oct 17, 2008

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

hey what was your "success" rate for "bumps" ? I've practiced the last couple of days and I've gotten it to around 50%

i think CCP is gonna have to fix this, it's incredibly consistent and busted

yet another globby hotfix incoming

Loky11
Dec 12, 2006

Pull on the new flesh like borrowed gloves and burn your fingers once again

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

hey what was your "success" rate for "bumps" ? I've practiced the last couple of days and I've gotten it to around 50%

i think CCP is gonna have to fix this, it's incredibly consistent and busted

50% is pretty drat good. I watched some guy try it in Igno for hours and only got one.

My rate averaged around 55% so you’ve got it down.

We had that hot debate over it the other day and people are divided on it internally. I think it’s clever and since it’s chanced based I’m hoping it won’t get classed as an exploit.

Anias
Jun 3, 2010

It really is a lovely hat

Does succeeding murder big dumb ships? If so, leave it in.

Loky11
Dec 12, 2006

Pull on the new flesh like borrowed gloves and burn your fingers once again

Anias posted:

Does succeeding murder big dumb ships? If so, leave it in.

yes and big dumb pilots.

the easy counter is a bm inside the gate structure and pressing jump on land (or using autopilot thingy)

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Rutibex posted:

I'm really bad at Path of Exile and for some reason people take that very personally. you dont need to check my post history you can scope my rap sheet for the highlights of the PoE thread

GGG doesn't endorse scamming you donut, they just don't do anything about it.

Rutibex posted:

it cant be that hard i would just do one of those "reverse scams" where someone buys a lovely contract from me "accidentally"

Yeah, they see through that.

Typically, that person has been caught before. The only feasible way to move isk is to pull an elusive and sell within an organization that doesn't forbid that behavior, which also has to be large enough to support demand for however much you're trying to offload. Ideally, you want to dump as much as you can, as quickly as you can. Otherwise, a 3rd party website guy is going to call you at 3am for 3-5b, every day, for 5 months. Legit, not worth.

Xolve fucked around with this message at 16:36 on May 24, 2021

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Rutibex posted:

it cant be that hard i would just do one of those "reverse scams" where someone buys a lovely contract from me "accidentally"

it's easy to come up with a way that a one-off transaction doesn't seem suspicious. they all tend to fall apart when you ask how suspicious is it that it happened ten times.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Loky11 posted:

yes and big dumb pilots.

the easy counter is a bm inside the gate structure and pressing jump on land (or using autopilot thingy)

1) please add corporation "The Quick and the Get Head" to your blue list so i do not get bumped when going thru olettiers
2) why does the BM in the center of the gate work? aren't you still rolling the dice on how close to the gate you get?

TasogareNoKagi
Jul 11, 2013

Johnny Five-Jaces posted:

1) please add corporation "The Quick and the Get Head" to your blue list so i do not get bumped when going thru olettiers
2) why does the BM in the center of the gate work? aren't you still rolling the dice on how close to the gate you get?

The "sphere of uncertainty" of where you come out of warp for the BM is a lot smaller than if you warped to the gate, so if they're set up to bump people warping to the gate, they'll miss, or not bump you far enough, and you'll still be able to jump.

tl;dr :ccp:

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

evilweasel posted:

it's easy to come up with a way that a one-off transaction doesn't seem suspicious. they all tend to fall apart when you ask how suspicious is it that it happened ten times.

I always wondered why RMT couldn't be done through SRP.

Subscribe to Goonwaffe Plus and get an extra 50% on all SRP payouts. Only $15/month!

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
I can't imagine that would stay secret for very long.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Z the IVth posted:

I always wondered why RMT couldn't be done through SRP.

Subscribe to Goonwaffe Plus and get an extra 50% on all SRP payouts. Only $15/month!

alliances have gotten hammered before for alliance-run rmt so while i imagine their burden of proof is a little higher they still find and punish it

i'm sure it's easier to hide rmt transactions in an alliance wallet, but you probably accumulate enough suspicious ones over time anyway

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




don't sell isk to alliance members, that's way too risky. just charge them :10bux: to post on a forum.

:eng101:

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting
Sell isk to enemy alliances only. That's metagaming.

Lose one Theta to send a dozen papi's into collection on credit cards debt.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Bad Purchase posted:

don't sell isk to alliance members, that's way too risky. just charge them :10bux: to post on a forum.

:eng101:

fairly certain people have tried to go after goonfleet for this though

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




i've never seen mittens and lowtax in the same room, and isn't it suspicious how the forums were "sold" to jeffrey just as the current war started heating up :thunk:

follow the money

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Bad Purchase posted:

i've never seen mittens and lowtax in the same room, and isn't it suspicious how the forums were "sold" to jeffrey just as the current war started heating up :thunk:

follow the money

PEOPLE OF GOONS! You are being lied to!

RIP Roy :eng99:

Baculus
Oct 25, 2007

I DID A BIG CACA IN MY DRUG STORE DIAPER
So I actually read the write up and listened to like half of PGLs spiel and just what the actual Christ.

I genuinely hope we both wind up on the CSM together so I can take every opportunity to remind him of how badly broken his brain is. Like it’s genuine medically concerning levels of narrative inconsistency.

I can’t fault leaders for being exhausted a year into this loving war but that doesn’t mean you start doing meth and go all crazy brained in a town hall.

Idk maybe I’m just too high and it was actually not at all self-contradictory.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Baculus posted:

Idk maybe I’m just too high and it was actually not at all self-contradictory.

Why can't it be both?

Loky11
Dec 12, 2006

Pull on the new flesh like borrowed gloves and burn your fingers once again
https://zkillboard.com/related/30005008/202105241900/

we fed a little today.

also our dread fits are 7b now with the cool and good scarcity era or whatever we're calling it.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Loky11 posted:

https://zkillboard.com/related/30005008/202105241900/

we fed a little today.

also our dread fits are 7b now with the cool and good scarcity era or whatever we're calling it.

Team A (175 involved)
Team B (89 involved)

Loky11
Dec 12, 2006

Pull on the new flesh like borrowed gloves and burn your fingers once again

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

Team A (175 involved)
Team B (89 involved)

it's shadow cartel. there's years of bad blood between us and them so they max formed with some batphones. but they won't fight otherwise so to have some fun and pvp we had to bleed a little.

something something already replaced.

had fun and we watched a particularly odd russian streamer on youtube while we fed.

Drain 001
Nov 24, 2010

Dinosaur Gum

Solus posted:

Im apparently director of posting now - So i am here to post

The king is dead, long live the king lol.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Baculus posted:

So I actually read the write up and listened to like half of PGLs spiel and just what the actual Christ.

I genuinely hope we both wind up on the CSM together so I can take every opportunity to remind him of how badly broken his brain is. Like it’s genuine medically concerning levels of narrative inconsistency.

I can’t fault leaders for being exhausted a year into this loving war but that doesn’t mean you start doing meth and go all crazy brained in a town hall.

Idk maybe I’m just too high and it was actually not at all self-contradictory.

It's just unchecked narcissism.

I mean, yeah he's a broke-brain idiot, but most garden-variety idiots don't take to social media to pronounce that they're the best and most experienced FC in EVE: Online (unless he's talking about losing regions or number of times kicked directly the gently caress out of null- then yeah, maybe he has a point).

Nyan Bread
Mar 17, 2006

TAPI is a joke of an alliance who can't even protect its own krabbers not to mention the renters they planned to farm in Delve.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/93013505/

Floppychop
Mar 30, 2012

Whoever rats in a super in an active warzone deserves everything that comes to them.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Loky11 posted:

https://zkillboard.com/related/30005008/202105241900/

we fed a little today.

also our dread fits are 7b now with the cool and good scarcity era or whatever we're calling it.

you lost because your vindi's didn't both have abyssal webs. very shameful

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yoloer420
May 19, 2006

Dalael posted:

What if my preferred industrial is Gallente for an undisclosed reasons?

I did it in an itty V. The longest industrial is the best industrial.

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