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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
All the talk about lovely autism stereotypes in the Shane Black Predator, and no one mentioned the movie's reveal that the Predators are here to steal our autism because it's the next stage of human evolution.

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Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Eternals teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVDKZJkGlY

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Whoa. That looks awesome.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
On the other hand I think it looks bad!

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
It looks interesting.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
Look better than I thought it would as I've never really cared for the eternals.

Predator chat: P2 also brought us this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxQmFw565_8

mikeraskol
May 3, 2006

Oh yeah. I was killing you.

Seems like it's going to be a really good looking movie.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Mr Hootington posted:

On the other hand I think it looks bad!
Yeah that does nothing for me

Drakyn
Dec 26, 2012

FilthyImp posted:

The successor films fail because it's not some unknowable thing anymore, and you count the minutes till It Does The Thing with the disc, or javelin, or takes the mask off, or...
I think it might be easier to count the number of films based around a novel creature/monster/alien/animal that DON'T fall into this trap. Aliens that reproduce through parasitism; invisible alien big-game hunters; super-clever revived dinosaurs... a lot of the power of that first depiction is being surprised by what the hell they are, what they can do. Holy poo poo, it's not a weird horseshoe crab gribbly, it's a weird multistage lifeform with acid blood; holy poo poo, there's something hunting these guys like deer and it has a laser gun; holy poo poo these things are smart enough to plan ambushes and open doors.
And then you make a sequel and even if you're taping on new stuff (queens! throwing discuses! they communicate vocally!) that initial total ignorance can never reemerge. You're dealing with a completely different kind of experience: presenting a known quantity whose initial widespread appeal was greatly based in it being unknown and shocking.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Desperado Bones posted:

Yeah, at the end the kid is making eye contact, smiling and laughing and poo poo like that. I think he even hugs a person? I dunno, the movie was dripping in ableism and it was cringy


My mind had erased that. *screams*

That’s because they reshot the ending so many times I don’t think anyone really gave a poo poo. In the movie his autism isn’t “cured”.

One ending they shot had the pod open up and Ripley or Newt was inside. Yes really. There’s photos of this.

No one knew what the heck to do because they reshot the entire last act.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

FilthyImp posted:

Just find a way to adapt the loving AvP arcade game story where cybernetic Arnold and Android Asian assassin Girl pair up with 2 preds for the ultimate hunt that happens to be Weyland-Yutani's fault.

The whole of Predator is kind of a slasher complete with Arnold being a very buff final girl! (Yeah, I know, I'm not letting what's her name get in the way of a good and dumb analogy.)

Seriously, I don't like that I know that the Predators' race are called 'Yautja.' That feels unnecessary.

The first AvP Dark Horse mini series would also have been a good source to adapt. Asian female lead (so we could get ScarJo on board), crazy set pieces like Predators and xenomorphs fighting during a giant stampede of space cattle. It'd be great.

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
Predator was actually scary to me as a kid. You got some nice gore and A LOT of suspense and atmosphere. What the newer movies lack is this suspense and atmosphere. They're about as scary as a marvel film too

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Sgt. Politeness posted:

I saw 4 in the theater and this is the only part I remember. And Lambert's terrible hair.

I saw 4 in the theater with a girl who had never seen a single Highlander film or episode of the TV series. She claimed to have "liked it", something neither myself nor my friend who actually knew what the gently caress was going on could say

FilthyImp posted:

That's because of a few novelties of the original:
* the twist once the predator comes into play

First time I saw Predator was on HBO circa 1990 and we completely missed the very beginning with the spaceship. We knew nothing about it beforehand, so when our super cool Arnold killing bad dudes movie suddenly became a weird alien hunter movie, our 11 year old brains were all :supaburn:

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



They should cut that opening space ship shot out of every future release and destroy the footage. It fucks up the entire movie.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.

FilthyImp posted:

The writeup I read leaned really, really hard into "Native warrior woman" poo poo so I'm already kind of doubtful.

Maybe they'll Apocalypto it and have her survive only to deal with the scourge of the White Man, which might be enough to save it.

I get your wariness but at the same time, the original always did give of a strong vibe that maybe in an earlier draft Billy was actually the focal character only to be sidelined and killed off screen once Arnie signs on and does his thing. It would have cool if the final act was Dutch getting killed unexpectedly and it’s left to Billy to fight it alone. If this remake is more in tune with that it could be neat.

Related, apparently the Second Unit shot all the rebel camp stuff and McTiernan and his team were horrified at it being so unashamedly gently caress Yeah! slaughter porn by Dutch’s team but the shooting conditions were awful and they didn’t wan to do it all over again so it stayed. But the original intention was to have it be far less explodey and actually depict them as the specialist rescue team Dutch indicated they were.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Eternals looks gorgeous.

Also Robb and Jon Stark are gonna have the same love interest.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

It looks good as in visually, but i hope at some point they tell us what it's actually about

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.

CelticPredator posted:

One ending they shot had the pod open up and Ripley or Newt was inside. Yes really. There’s photos of this.
:psyduck:

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


The teaser looks really nice, yeah, it just doesn't give a whole lot of meat to chew on. The laugh line at the end falls totally flat due to complete lack of context.

I did see some praise for it on Twitter as a Marvel movie that actually has a wide range of color and doesn't crush its blacks.

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
Eternals looks gorgeous but that trailer did nothing to introduce the dozen characters.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Yeah, I've been figuring Harrington is gonna be the way in, as the everyday guy who finds the threat and learns about the Eternals so the audience can too, but that had no hint of that

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

Arist posted:

The teaser looks really nice, yeah, it just doesn't give a whole lot of meat to chew on. The laugh line at the end falls totally flat due to complete lack of context.

I did see some praise for it on Twitter as a Marvel movie that actually has a wide range of color and doesn't crush its blacks.

Most marvel movies milk up their blacks, but your point still stands.

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.

Cythereal posted:

All the talk about lovely autism stereotypes in the Shane Black Predator, and no one mentioned the movie's reveal that the Predators are here to steal our autism because it's the next stage of human evolution.

Yeah, it was trying real hard to be like "Actually, Autism is a good thing" which, while I'm sure is offensive in its own way, is at least trying to make a positive statement.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
I'm not a huge fan of Kit Harrington but Dane Whitman is one of my top five favorite Marvel characters (i know) so I'm absolutely there on day one.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



site posted:

It looks good as in visually, but i hope at some point they tell us what it's actually about
They’ll get back to you in October

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Rhyno posted:

I'm not a huge fan of Kit Harrington but Dane Whitman is one of my top five favorite Marvel characters (i know) so I'm absolutely there on day one.

I'm not familiar with Kit really but Dane is one of my favorites too. I tend to like the overlooked or smaller characters and I got into Avengers when both and Sersi were fixtures of the team.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
As long as Zhao had Harrington play to his range, it'll be fine, but he's not the most versatile actor.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

X-O posted:

I'm not familiar with Kit really but Dane is one of my favorites too. I tend to like the overlooked or smaller characters and I got into Avengers when both and Sersi were fixtures of the team.

Same! The Gathering is terrible but Dane was great. I even followed him over to Ultraforce and then not too long after that the Heroes for Hire series where he got a new sword and a pegasus.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Arist posted:

The teaser looks really nice, yeah, it just doesn't give a whole lot of meat to chew on. The laugh line at the end falls totally flat due to complete lack of context.
"Hey looks like Cap America is out of action, Tony Stark is dead and who the gently caress knows what happened to Thor... should we"

'Let Wakands handle it, we'll chill in our walled garden state'

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Rhyno posted:

I even followed him over to Ultraforce

We don't talk about that.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

X-O posted:

We don't talk about that.

YES WE DO THE ULTRAVERSE WAS GOOD

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

During the time around The Crossing/Leather Jackets era of Avengers the Dane/Sersi/Crystal love triangle was one of the few engaging things about the book.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Rhyno posted:

YES WE DO THE ULTRAVERSE WAS GOOD

:mods:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Dawgstar posted:

During the time around The Crossing/Leather Jackets era of Avengers the Dane/Sersi/Crystal love triangle was one of the few engaging things about the book.

I was a big fan of Hercules saying "by my beard" BUT YOU SHAVED IT OFF HERC, YOU SHAVED IT OFF

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe
I get that it's only supposed to be a teaser and all, but I feel like I now know less about The Eternals after having watched that.

BrianWilly
Apr 24, 2007

There is no homosexual terrorist Johnny Silverhand
Heh, I think this two-minute trailer does a pretty good job of succinctly paring down the basics of this total X-list comic book property in such a way that is immediately understandable to absolutely everyone.

Strange definition of "not interfering," though. She literally just said they were guiding people, which is...y'know, absolutely interfering. :sweatdrop: I hope this doesn't fall into the recent Marvel trap of spouting a buncha smart-sounding dialogue that doesn't actually make any sense when you think about it for more than a sec.

Sgt. Politeness
Sep 29, 2003

I've seen shit you people wouldn't believe. Cop cars on fire off the shoulder of I-94. I watched search lights glitter in the dark near the Ambassador Bridge. All those moments will be lost in time, like piss in the drain. Time to retch.
It really looks like someone at Marvel's answer to the Snyderverse. Like they heard all the talk about cinematography and gods and symbolism and decided to "do it right". Like weird Avengers reference aside they got an up and coming oscar winning director known for their visual style to make a deep thoughts movie about (actual) gods. Now it's still possible Marvel Studios buffed the edges out and it'll be more of their samey house style but after Marvel beat DC to the inevitable Thanos/Darkseid problem they were probably feeling cocky. I hope I'm right and they really nail every note Snyder attempted in his DC movies just to see how the fans respond.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Sgt. Politeness posted:

It really looks like someone at Marvel's answer to the Snyderverse. Like they heard all the talk about cinematography and gods and symbolism and decided to "do it right". Like weird Avengers reference aside they got an up and coming oscar winning director known for their visual style to make a deep thoughts movie about (actual) gods. Now it's still possible Marvel Studios buffed the edges out and it'll be more of their samey house style but after Marvel beat DC to the inevitable Thanos/Darkseid problem they were probably feeling cocky. I hope I'm right and they really nail every note Snyder attempted in his DC movies just to see how the fans respond.

They even cribbed the "accomplish wonders" bit from Man of Steel.

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


Gonna thank the random internet person for putting a quick who is who summary:
https://twitter.com/marvel_shots/status/1396830658933231620?s=19

Eternals is as unknown as GoG was, for me.

Also hoping they do have a rad Bollywood dance scene.

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SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
I'm happy to see lots of PoC. Never enough of that. I know nothing about Eternals as comic characters. I at least had an inkling of the Guardians. We shall see.

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