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Aramoro posted:Folk will say they're off to get the messages meaning going shopping. I was unware of this until my wife pointed out she had no idea what I meant by 'going to get the messages' She didnae ken messages?
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doing your messages is a NI thing as well "redding up" meaning tidying up seems to be more localised to the bit i'm from but is apparently also somehow a thing in pittsburgh, PA getting a skelf meaning a splinter, calling a woodlouse a slater. i could go on but it would most likely be very boring for everyone else
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May 24, 2021 16:33
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multijoe posted:Wonder if this is to be another case where all types of crazy poo poo comes out now the threat if libel is gone Well the Independent.co.uk’s report on his death only mentions him as being a F1 boss and nothing about all the fascist stuff. So they seem to be still afraid of his reputation.
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May 24, 2021 16:34
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I love British dialect discussion but i will never understand the strange words Englanders use for a simple bread roll
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May 24, 2021 16:35
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I'm not sure the specifics are very interesting, but it is interesting that everyone will have phrases that they use which they think are perfectly normal but is actually very regional to where they are. Like getting a jag.
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May 24, 2021 16:35
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in the north west of ireland you'll hear gee (pronounced like the indian butter) used for vagina and wab used for penis and for some reason i find both very funny
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OwlFancier posted:And nothing has ever made me hate poetry more except for the rime of the ancient mariner. Like one, that through a poetry slam Doth walk in fear and dread, And having once heard verse walks on, And turns no more his head; Because he knows, a frightful rhyme May suddenly be said
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May 24, 2021 16:38
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crispix posted:doing your messages is a NI thing as well Never heard it before, but "redding up" makes sense, from the Old English raede meaning "to arrange or prepare".
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May 24, 2021 16:38
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Now do squinnying and dinlo.
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May 24, 2021 16:39
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My favourites an old Scottish phrase my dad would say, ive never seen it written down but "stall yer man they jan the cant" which i believe meant "stop talking or you'll give yourself away" or :quiet down they can hear us" kinda thing
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May 24, 2021 16:44
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Total Meatlove posted:Now do squinnying and dinlo. Not from my area, but I'd guess squinnying to be either onomatopoeic for the sound of moaning/crying, or related to the word squint in the literal sense of doing that being the face you make when you cry or complain. Dinlo I have no idea. *googles* Apparently it's a Romani word meaning fool? but I cheated for that one so 0 points.
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May 24, 2021 16:46
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crispix posted:doing your messages is a NI thing as well South of Ireland too. "Gee" as vag was made clear to me when 8yo Imagineer started karate lessons and showed off my brand new gi (fight pyjamas) to my older brothers who shite themselves laughing  JollyBoyJohn posted:My favourites an old Scottish phrase my dad would say, ive never seen it written down but "stall yer man they jan the cant" which i believe meant "stop talking or you'll give yourself away" or :quiet down they can hear us" kinda thing Sounds similar to the Cork equivalent of "hold on there" - "stall the ball" or "stall the ball, Pope John Paul" if you're fancy Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 16:50 on May 24, 2021 |
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May 24, 2021 16:48
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Reveilled posted:I believe it's speculative, but messages as a term for groceries likely derives from the Old French "mes" meaning a small amount of food. This was borrowed into English as the term "mess", see "eton mess" and "mess hall", and also into Scottish English as "messages", with mess-age being the thing you would need to make mess. 
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Reveilled posted:I believe it's speculative, but messages as a term for groceries likely derives from the Old French "mes" meaning a small amount of food. This was borrowed into English as the term "mess", see "eton mess" and "mess hall", and also into Scottish English as "messages", with mess-age being the thing you would need to make mess. I had heard it was from going and getting things from messenger boys.
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May 24, 2021 17:01
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I really enjoy "Dinlo" It sounds like it's going to be some lovely schoolyard ableist term but it isn't and it's fun to say
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May 24, 2021 17:03
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Aramoro posted:Folk will say they're off to get the messages meaning going shopping. I was unware of this until my wife pointed out she had no idea what I meant by 'going to get the messages' I don't like to break this to you but your parents/caregivers were probably spies.
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May 24, 2021 17:17
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Reveilled posted:I know you're kidding, but it does actually rhyme! Haha yeah that was part of my poem-understanderer bit. I take your point, but I feel like flag shagger culture has unfortunately shown that it can absorb and coexist quite happily with realistic depictions of ww1, like call of duty wisely quoting various authors on the futility of war whilst still being absolute filth
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May 24, 2021 17:23
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Gats Akimbo posted:I'm old enough to have had Geoffrey Summerfield's Voices anthologies, which were fuckin' awesome. I think we had that for O-level Eng Lit (1974/5)
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May 24, 2021 17:30
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Aramoro posted:I had heard it was from going and getting things from messenger boys. Perhaps not impossible, but that seems more likely to be a folk etymology to me. If we're talking literal messenger boys (carrying written messages), it would have to be a cross-class borrowing since you could imagine a merchant or an officer having to get messages from messenger boys, but not so much Peggy from the Gorbals "getting the messages" in 19th-20th century Scotland. If we're talking messenger boys that are carrying "messages" in the sense of groceries, that just moves us back one step and we'd want to explain why the groceries the boys carried were called messages in the first place.
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May 24, 2021 17:34
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Guavanaut posted:a pot of message A mess of pottage. Originally something to do with lentils.
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Hmm. I think Amazon is on to me. 3 suggested books "25 times Britain was a bell end." "The Abolition of Britain. From Winston Churchill to Diana." "The politically incorrect guide to the British empire." Facebook however is not sure if I'm a lesbian or a Viking I need of hair trimming products. So I'm not doing to bad a job of screwing with the algorithm.
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Afternoon all. I'm very much a lurker on this thread and site overall but really could do with some help to solve a problem of my own making. I've been getting overpaid by work (NHS) for on-call duties since Feb 2020 (I stopped on-call duties in Jan 2020). For some reason I didn't say anything at the time, assuming they would notice and take it out of my next pay slip in March 2020. However they've carried on overpaying me and I've buried my head in the sand about it in case I got in trouble and now we're here and I need to get it fixed before I'm properly hosed. I spent ten minutes on the phone to payroll today with no answer. How do I fix this and what is going to happen to me? It's the best job I've ever had and I'm scared I may have totally hosed it. Any advice appreciated. (Not a begging thread - I could pay the money back tomorrow if I had to).
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document your efforts to get un-overpaid, continue making some efforts, and I am pretty sure you'll be fine
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I just wouldn't mention it and if they bring it up plead ignorance and offer to pay back the difference. It's a mistake on their end after all. This is quite possibly terrible advice though. The safe option is to do what you're doing and be very up front about how you're trying to get it sorted. I very much doubt there'll be much of an issue in terms of the job itself, it's essentially just a minor admin issue unless it looks like you've tried to deliberately make fraudulent claims or something. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:51 on May 24, 2021 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:A mess of pottage. I'm not sure if you go to the shops for just oatmeal it becomes merridges. Grey Hunter posted:"The politically incorrect guide to the British empire."   Why yes I did know that the British Empire ended the slave trade, they covered that one in school, could you tell me a bit more about who started it and what the Royal African Company was chartered to do? I swear the authors live in some alternate timeline where everyone born after 1975 just gets taught nothing but endless crimes of empire and the historical record needed nudging in the other direction, rather than this just being a reheated version of what most people got in school with more flags on top.
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I'm interested in the period when the UK stood alone against the combined forces of nazi Germany, fascist italy, imperial Japan and Soviet Russia, does anyone know when that was?
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Gambrinus posted:Afternoon all. If you're regulated, start making very detailed records of your attempts to correct this and maybe refer yourself if it's something payroll is likely to do.
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XMNN posted:I'm interested in the period when the UK stood alone against the combined forces of nazi Germany, fascist italy, imperial Japan and Soviet Russia, does anyone know when that was? Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 24, 2021 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's a good enough idea that I'd be very surprised if it's not already been covered from every possible angle. Might be a fun jumping off point for fiction though, if nothing else the coincidence of someone found dead in Stepney and someone else being murdered there the next year with people suspiciously dying in breweries and falling down stairs the same weeks, could be good for a Restoration Goodfellas. I started some historical detective stories back when I was writing, might need to start those up again.
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Reveilled posted:Like Shakespeare though, I think modern English lessons seriously damage appreciation the art, because we put some really great poems in front of kids who don't have the emotional experience to relate to them, and then ask them to read aloud stuff they can't relate to. I do hope that the pandemic forcing more technology into teaching will lead to teachers using videos of plays and poetry recitals instead of just having Steve, age 13 and a half, read a passage with the passion of a particularly boring accountant. I didn't understand any of Hamlet when I was forced to read it at school, nor the subtlety of any of the big memorable phrases we were told to memorise, nor the point of any of it because all of the videos we saw of it were the big, legs wide apart thespians roaring "OOOUH, tobeornottobethatisthe QUESTIYON." As much as people may rag on David Tennant's whole gurning shtick that was at it's worst in Doctor Who, he was a really interesting contemporary Hamlet in 2009's RSC production. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On14CIYwpyE The scene is really, really clearly laid out and set up and the way the lines are said is not completely natural (because it's Tennant) but everything from the gravedigger's accent to the moment of recognition tell you infinitely more than the usual, standing in a spotlight with a skull staging usually does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbuojia1zc crispix posted:getting a skelf meaning a splinter, calling a woodlouse a slater. i could go on but it would most likely be very boring for everyone else Apparently a lot of Geordie slang comes from viking and germanic roots which is why it's uniquely wedged between the celtic scots slang and latin-french english slang.
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XMNN posted:I'm interested in the period when the UK stood alone against the combined forces of nazi Germany, fascist italy, imperial Japan and Soviet Russia, does anyone know when that was? Well it can't have been before or during the Munich talks.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Around the North East woodlice are Slateybacks, and we have spelks for those annoying hair-thin bits of wood that catch on everything. If you tell a Geordie you have a splinter, you'd best have a small branch sticking out of your arm. yeah they have a lot of names  quote:"Jomits" (Cloneganna)
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Gambrinus posted:Afternoon all. I've been through this before. Firstly, that money is not yours. You have to pay it back, legally. Do not spend it - it is good that you say that you can pay it back tomorrow. Keep trying with payroll, send letters/emails so you have evidence, and wait. By all means put that money in a high-interest account or whatever to get the most out of it.
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Grey Hunter posted:Hmm. I think Amazon is on to me. 3 suggested books The only time I've ever been hurt by the algorithm is when Facebook tried to sell me t-shirts for D&D players with generalised anxiety disorder, that loving hurt to see
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EvilHawk posted:I've been through this before. Thanks. I'll get on the phone again tomorrow. Emailing them was useless. Thanks to everyone else as well. I've got form for burying my head in the sand.
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Gambrinus posted:Thanks. I'll get on the phone again tomorrow. Emailing them was useless. Thanks to everyone else as well. I've got form for burying my head in the sand. I would suggest keeping up with the emailing them every time you phone them, just so you have records.
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multijoe posted:The only time I've ever been hurt by the algorithm is when Facebook tried to sell me t-shirts for D&D players with generalised anxiety disorder, that loving hurt to see SYSTEMS ANALYST from APPLEBY MAGNA who was born in SMARCH and owns a LABRADOR RETRIEVER and a FLYMO LAWNMOWER 
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Gambrinus posted:Thanks. I'll get on the phone again tomorrow. Emailing them was useless. Thanks to everyone else as well. I've got form for burying my head in the sand. The emailing is just to keep a trail going. To be clear: they can't ask for more than what they've paid you back, so there's no danger of interest accruing or anything like that, and it's reasonable for you to agree to pay it back over x period of time. I'm surprised they're not chasing this more though, when it happened to me my company were hot on my heels as soon as I noticed.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Around the North East woodlice are Slateybacks, and we have spelks for those annoying hair-thin bits of wood that catch on everything. If you tell a Geordie you have a splinter, you'd best have a small branch sticking out of your arm. When I was growing up in rural Hampshire in the 80s you could still occasionally hear farmers call woodlice 'flumps'. I heard one ancient wizened stockman use the word 'dumbledore' years before JKR put pen to paper. They used words like 'aftershear' (consequences), they would 'bait' rather than stoke/tend a fire, call a fussy person a 'quiddler', accuse a braggard or show-off of being 'janty' and call young geese 'gulls' rather than goslings.
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The other day I was watching an Antipodean Twitch stream and learned they use the term "total weapon" to mean a solid lad and not a pranny like we do o'er here.
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