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Spacebump posted:Reading those power level descriptions, I can't wait to hear the reason where they were in Infinity War/Endgame. "Well, it's not like any of us thought that scrotum-chinned purple goober could actually do it or anything. Oops our bad?"
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Martytoof posted:MODOK wasn’t great but I’ll still watch whatever they pump out. I laughed a few times but had a hard time getting over what was basically a bigger budget Robot Chicken which I historically didn’t enjoy at all. Yea it was fine. I will give it for a show probably not getting a 2nd season that was a hell of an ending.
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Oh wait, is all of MODOK out on Hulu already? I’m watching it on D+ and I only have the first episode. I figured they’d just dump the whole thing at the same rate but I guess not.
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Martytoof posted:Oh wait, is all of MODOK out on Hulu already? I’m watching it on D+ and I only have the first episode. I figured they’d just dump the whole thing at the same rate but I guess not. Yeah, the whole thing is on Hulu.
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Martytoof posted:Oh wait, is all of MODOK out on Hulu already? I’m watching it on D+ and I only have the first episode. I figured they’d just dump the whole thing at the same rate but I guess not. Yeah, us D+ people are getting dicked over. It’s probably done as a ‘this will hold them over till Loki’ measure.
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The_Doctor posted:Yeah, us D+ people are getting dicked over. It’s probably done as a ‘this will hold them over till Loki’ measure. How do you even get D+ without getting Hulu? I thought it just came as a package deal these days.
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pik_d posted:How do you even get D+ without getting Hulu? I thought it just came as a package deal these days. In Europe (which is were I suppose The_Doctor is from) and Latin America Hulu doesn't exist. Europe got instead Star+, my country is getting it until around August. It was supposed to go live next month but I guess Disney is trying to snatch back as many licenses as possible.
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I don't know anything about the Eternals and nothing about that trailer made me care. Also thanks for helping out when six infinity stones showed up on Earth and somebody annihilated half of all life?
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May 25, 2021 03:57
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It's funny: with maybe one or two exceptions, every single one of the character bios for the Eternals reads like they are secretly a bad guy that is going to betray the others.
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May 25, 2021 04:05
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In It For The Tank posted:It's funny: with maybe one or two exceptions, every single one of the character bios for the Eternals reads like they are secretly a bad guy that is going to betray the others. "HE IS THE STRONGEST ETERNAL" one para later "HE IS THE MOST POWERFUL ETERNAL" one para later "SHE IS THE LEADER OF THE ETERNALS" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsTeL8-ornA
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The leader of the Avengers joke was so obviously tacked on it almost ruined the whole trailer for me. It was very transparently an attempt to remind the audience it's definitely an MCU movie please watch it for continuity, when the film is obviously an attempt at a standalone story.
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BurritoJustice posted:The leader of the Avengers joke was so obviously tacked on it almost ruined the whole trailer for me. It was very transparently an attempt to remind the audience it's definitely an MCU movie please watch it for continuity, when the film is obviously an attempt at a standalone story. Yeah, that really came out of nowhere.
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I've been watching MODOK the last couple of days. I liked Robot Chicken, so the humor is okay for me, and the animation looks great. I also love stories where the protagonist has to pick themselves up from the bottom. But the only joke that made laugh out loud was the whole bit with the Asgardian goats, Fainty and Screamy, but even then it felt like it could've been shortened. And any show that has Angar the Screamer and Armadillo yelling that he has to go back with his wife shows that at least they tried to include the less known stuff. In It For The Tank posted:It's funny: with maybe one or two exceptions, every single one of the character bios for the Eternals reads like they are secretly a bad guy that is going to betray the others. I got big vibes that Angelina Jolie is gonna end up being the big bad. And I know nothing about the Eternals.
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Spacebump posted:Reading those power level descriptions, I can't wait to hear the reason where they were in Infinity War/Endgame. Infinity War: the big Earth based battle took place over a few hours, in a secret African kingdom. To join in you would need to be in the immediate vicinity. Endgame: The big Earth based fight scene takes place over less than an hour. Both sides teleport in, and to join in you need to befriend a wizard. I think them not intervening in the gap between the movies to help in rebuilding is covered adequately by their worldview. And the same applies to almost every other MCU movie. Certainly the ones set on Earth, with non-human foes(e.g. Thor 2; Dr Strange; Avengers). The threat is a flashpoint, defeated before anyone not on the scene could possibly respond.
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Undead Hippo posted:Infinity War: the big Earth based battle took place over a few hours, in a secret African kingdom. To join in you would need to be in the immediate vicinity. https://twitter.com/marvel_shots/status/1396831569831251969 "Makkari is the fastest woman in the universe. She uses her cosmically powered super-speed to scout planets for the Eternals, and as the only deaf Eternal, the sonic boom that accompanies her cosmic running does not affect her." She can run fast enough to scout out other planets. At the very least, Makkari easily could have gotten to either battle. Super speed on that level is absurd. I can understand missing the first battle. However, looking at their descriptions, there is no way they wouldn't be prepared for the second Thanos battle. He erased half of existence. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 09:23 on May 25, 2021 |
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pik_d posted:How do you even get D+ without getting Hulu? I thought it just came as a package deal these days. There's no Hulu in Australia, so D+ is its own subscription.
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May 25, 2021 09:28
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BurritoJustice posted:The leader of the Avengers joke was so obviously tacked on it almost ruined the whole trailer for me. It was very transparently an attempt to remind the audience it's definitely an MCU movie please watch it for continuity, when the film is obviously an attempt at a standalone story. It's interesting in a "Why would an eternal god want to lead a bunch of humans" way, which is probably why they all laughed at him for saying it. Of course Ikaris could lead the Avengers, he's basically Superman but it'd be like if someone said they were gonna lead a troop of gorillas.
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Martytoof posted:MODOK wasn’t great but I’ll still watch whatever they pump out. I laughed a few times but had a hard time getting over what was basically a bigger budget Robot Chicken which I historically didn’t enjoy at all. It was a sort bland with smatterings of funny thrown in. The whole flying goat scene "Hmm should I switch goats? No! I don't have time to keep switching goats, gotta commit" *goats fly away* Or him putting on shades and saying "Looks like my teenage daughter is going to help me get laid" LegoMan fucked around with this message at 10:40 on May 25, 2021 |
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live with fruit posted:but it'd be like if someone said they were gonna lead a troop of gorillas.
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Spacebump posted:https://twitter.com/marvel_shots/status/1396831569831251969 "Makkari is the fastest woman in the universe. She uses her cosmically powered super-speed to scout planets for the Eternals, and as the only deaf Eternal, the sonic boom that accompanies her cosmic running does not affect her." She can run fast enough to scout out other planets. At the very least, Makkari easily could have gotten to either battle. Super speed on that level is absurd. I can understand missing the first battle. However, looking at their descriptions, there is no way they wouldn't be prepared for the second Thanos battle. He erased half of existence. In Endgame there are no cutaways from the action scene, so it's presumably playing out in real time. This is the timeline: On a random day, 5 years after the Snap, and years after Thanos is killed, the Avengers are doing secret time shenanigans in their base. They succeed and the Hulk snap happens, bringing everyone back. This presumably plunges the entire universe into chaos, although we don't see it on screen. A teleportation portal is opened up moments later bringing in Thanos's army. The Avengers fight desperately to survive for 15 minutes alone. Then the wizard portals open and with reinforcements they clash for another 15 minutes. Finally at pretty much exactly the half hour mark the Iron Man snap obliterates the enemy forces. The timeframe of the final battle is lightning fast, with forces literally appearing out of thin air, no advance warning at all. If nobody knows who you are, nobody is going to fetch you. And no matter how fast you can move, you need to know where to go.
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Undead Hippo posted:In Endgame there are no cutaways from the action scene, so it's presumably playing out in real time. This is the timeline: On a random day, 5 years after the Snap, and years after Thanos is killed, the Avengers are doing secret time shenanigans in their base. They succeed and the Hulk snap happens, bringing everyone back. This presumably plunges the entire universe into chaos, although we don't see it on screen. A teleportation portal is opened up moments later bringing in Thanos's army. The Avengers fight desperately to survive for 15 minutes alone. Then the wizard portals open and with reinforcements they clash for another 15 minutes. Finally at pretty much exactly the half hour mark the Iron Man snap obliterates the enemy forces. Carol managed to get there from presumably deep space.
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live with fruit posted:Carol managed to get there from presumably deep space. She was probably called by the team doing secret time shenanigans, it's not like they didn't have her number
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LegoMan posted:go on... There's a certain romanticism to it but also it's crazy. live with fruit fucked around with this message at 11:34 on May 25, 2021 |
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It’d be real boring if every future MCU project is either another origin story or has to explain why it’s heroes weren’t fighting Thanos. I’d be fine if they don’t mention it at all. Also that Avengers discussion bit definitely felt at odds with the rest of the footage, I wonder if it was specific filmed for the trailer
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All comics solved this problem decades ago, and the answer is "don't think about it"
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gey muckle mowser posted:It’d be real boring if every future MCU project is either another origin story or has to explain why it’s heroes weren’t fighting Thanos. I’d be fine if they don’t mention it at all. Even if they wanted to explain it it'd be as simple as having Thanos portals open elsewhere as well, or supervillains getting uppity. Howard the Duck and Man-Thing couldn't make it cause they were fighting chitauri in the Everglades.
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Argue posted:All comics solved this problem decades ago, and the answer is "don't think about it" Desperately trying to reconcile the comics continuity has given us some of the greatest moments in comic history. Like, when they tried to explain how Magneto was a holocaust survivor and also only 40 years old in the early 2000's and they decided that Magneto has control of the full electromagnetic spectrum - including sunlight radiation - and he has kept sunlight from touching his skin to preserve it and uses his powers of magnetism to rearrange metal in his blood and cells to constantly repair themselves by controlling individual blood vessels and mitochondria. Then, later on, he was abducted by aliens and they gave him magic juice.
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BurritoJustice posted:The leader of the Avengers joke was so obviously tacked on it almost ruined the whole trailer for me. It was very transparently an attempt to remind the audience it's definitely an MCU movie please watch it for continuity, when the film is obviously an attempt at a standalone story. It looks like they copied the falafel scene from the first Avengers movie to add a bit of “see this is related to the other stuff you like” flavor. Whether it works or if it just sticks out like a sore thumb…
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One of the rumors is that they all have amnesia and don't realize that they're Eternals until something snaps them out of it, probably one of the snaps.
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gey muckle mowser posted:It’d be real boring if every future MCU project is either another origin story or has to explain why it’s heroes weren’t fighting Thanos. I’d be fine if they don’t mention it at all. It's probably less "they mentioned the Avengers" and more "it's a scene that's allowed to play out of the characters in a mundane situation talking casually without a dramatic score". Almost anything they said or did in that kind of tone would feel different to the rest of the trailer because the rest of the trailer is a trailer i.e. quick cuts of the cast in action with dramatic music and only a snippet of conversation here or there. I'm also not really sure why people seem to have a problem with the scene to be honest. The Eternals as a concept exist as part of the greater Marvel universe and were always envisioned to be so, both as a property in general and as part of the MCU in particular. Chloe Zhao did not take the project with the idea that she'd be making something stand alone, only for Kevin Feige to pop his head round the door at the last minute and go "actually, make it part of the MCU". It was always the plan, and it was always going to tie into the MCU in some fashion. Which means either other MCU characters or core concepts were going to be showing up and/or the characters of the film were going to discuss those characters or concepts. The apparent thrust of the film is establishing why the Eternals as a group have chosen not to interfere in the direction of human society despite living as part of it, and them being aware of and discussing that society only makes sense in that context. Them discussing the death of someone majorly relevant in society is no more weird in that context than one of them wanting to be a Bollywood actor as an example. It's just the characters showing they are connected to society even if they chose not to affect it. As is, them discussing the Avengers is probably more natural to the story being told than them interacting with someone from the MCU personally, and also takes away focus less and so seems like the better option. Also, a large part of the film is not just going to be explaining their origin but specifically explaining why they have chosen non-intervention. Which will probably explain Thanos on it's own. Most heroes going forward aren't going to be in that situation though, since Kate Bishop, Jennifer Walters etc. might have existed at the time, but did not have super powers so there'd be no reason for them to want to go help even assuming they knew anything was going on. The Eternals as a group are rather unique in that fashion, because by nature they pre-exist this conflict. The film doesn't have to address Thanos specifically to establish that. It might, but explaining why they don't intervene with humanity, at least explicitly, and instead only live alongside them, will explain why they didn't show up to fight Thanos by default really. tsob fucked around with this message at 14:33 on May 25, 2021 |
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Azhais posted:Even if they wanted to explain it it'd be as simple as having Thanos portals open elsewhere as well, or supervillains getting uppity. howard the duck was there (in endgame at least, not infinity war) 
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This raises the question of whether or not Strange knows about the Eternals. Presumably he knew about everyone who came through a portal, which is how Wong even knew to get them, and if the Eternals are super powerful and prefer to exist in the shadows, it could be that they stayed out of his line of sight and just weren't invited.
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We really can't keep doing this every time a new hero is added to the MCU. Where were the Eternals during Endgame? Where was Shang-Chi? Where was the Fantastic Four? Where was Deadpool? Where was Mephisto? They weren't there because their movies came after. Deal with it.
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Zero One posted:We really can't keep doing this every time a new hero is added to the MCU. Adherence to the sacred canon and continuity has been a nerd value forever. People used to mail VHS tapes to Paramount in the 80's to point out continuity issues in Star Trek.
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Zero One posted:Where were the Eternals during Endgame? Where was Shang-Chi? Where was the Fantastic Four? Where was Deadpool? Where was Mephisto? Orgy, couldn't be bothered
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It doesn't really matter where Shang-Chi was because he's a martial artist who was on Rumspringa. Superman and the Flash are difference makers in a fight against space armies so they'll talk about where they were, like they make a point of getting Carol away from the action and explaining why Strange isn't chipping in.
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