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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

I think the only real opportunity he had to sort it was to make open selections pass at conference and he decided not to. Don't think a proper purge was doable otherwise. Labour is now facing a legal challenge as a result of expelling Corbyn for example

I suppose he could have enforced a three line whip on something and used that as an excuse the way Boris did

he had motherfuckers bringing the party into disrepute all the time so there definitely were ways to do it, but corbyn didn't want to because he was ultimately too much of a believer in the system to go ahead and do what needed to be done

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gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

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trying to imagine a tory MP going on the news to say "yeah the tories are awful don't vote for us"

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

90s Cringe Rock posted:

More on Jeremy Corbyn

Ex-Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn 'alarmed and distressed' after being spat at during COVID crisis
Labour antisemitism: Angela Rayner warns 'thousands and thousands' of members could be suspended
Jeremy Corbyn supporter spared jail after sending antisemitic abuse and threats to Labour MPs
Jeremy Corbyn: Labour's chief whip tells ex-leader to apologise 'unequivocally' for antisemitism remarks
Jeremy Corbyn told he will be barred from sitting as Labour MP for three months
Jeremy Corbyn 'must make full apology' before returning as Labour MP, says ex-PM Gordon Brown

what did he even say dear god

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/BBCWalesNews/status/1397135161821732868?s=20
https://twitter.com/AllyFogg/status/1397153480721244160?s=20

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Nice toe pick, now where's the MP?

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Wasn't it the Arizona party that got taken over by progressives and caused all the centrists to chuck the biggest wobbly and try to burn down the whole thing?

We're both wrong. It's Nevada. It was Harry Reid's machine that got taken over.

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 12:51 on May 25, 2021

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

an entire island of people who look like ham

Nuclear War
Nov 7, 2012

You're a pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty girl

euphronius posted:

what did he even say dear god

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

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Lightningproof posted:

this specific kind of chortling pastel oval office makes me wish i’d voted Leave

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

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Shot:
https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1397163088584007681

Chaser:
https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1397171985189425155

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



this is called leading by example and it used to be applauded

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
remember this hard hitting analysis on islamophobia in the tory party

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1101583952484225024?s=20

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


She was correct though, tory islamophobia is on a completely diff political scale from Corbyns antisemitism in just about every regard

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012



did the people vote for pain?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Ghost Leviathan posted:

Wasn't it the Arizona party that got taken over by progressives and caused all the centrists to chuck the biggest wobbly and try to burn down the whole thing?

Nevada, and the "takeover" consisted of the Dem leadership that is largely DSA-aligned in the county where almost all the Dems live taking over the statehouse via a very normal election. Lots of choice meltdowns about it, especially from insane Bernie hater Jon Ralston, but behind the scenes machinations were mostly the normal stuff of the old guard tearing out whatever copper they could in their time left to bolster their folks who are going to lose support under the socialists

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

this is an interesting blog post on how many of the suffragettes became fascists and how that informs the british feminists becoming terfs.

https://asaseresin.com/2021/02/11/lesbian-fascism-on-terf-island/

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

this is an interesting blog post on how many of the suffragettes became fascists and how that informs the british feminists becoming terfs.

https://asaseresin.com/2021/02/11/lesbian-fascism-on-terf-island/

Sylvia Pankhurst was the cool one because she wanted universal suffrage and actually helped working class women read and organised among them

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

this is an interesting blog post on how many of the suffragettes became fascists and how that informs the british feminists becoming terfs.

https://asaseresin.com/2021/02/11/lesbian-fascism-on-terf-island/

really interesting article thanks

i thought the ending conclusion is a little unconvincing though, "they just want to be miserable"
but the history is definitely interesting

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Jel Shaker posted:

i have to agree that it’s mental they’re still going on about corbyn, of course obviously there are tons of reasons why they are, but i’d have thought they’d have atleast come up with something to build their project around

i thought it was clear that their project is the complete and total discrediting of the left. their job is to contain the left.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Wasn't it the Arizona party that got taken over by progressives and caused all the centrists to chuck the biggest wobbly and try to burn down the whole thing?

it was nevada, which is both 1) a state whose dem party has been for decades a machine controlled by retired senator harry reid and 2) a very hispanic state that bernie won overwhelmingly in the primaries largely due to being the overwhelming favorite of minorities

earlier this year the bernie-aligned slate for state party leadership won the election decisively so the outgoing reid-aligned establishment party leadership transferred all the money in the state party treasury to bank accounts personally controlled by them, and every single state party staffer quit. it was an effort to destroy the official party apparatus as much as possible rather than let it fall into the wrong hands

e: the biggest way that the reid machine tried to put their thumbs on the scale against bernie during the primary that i can remember is that the dem party pushed messaging down through the political arms of the huge unions that represent vegas casino staffers that single payer would be bad for them because it would take away their union-negotiated employer healthcare plans

Cerebral Bore posted:

agreed, corbyn should have purged the labour right the first opportunity he got, but unfortunately he didn't

:hai:

Shear Modulus has issued a correction as of 21:17 on May 25, 2021

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

did the people vote for pain?

50% pain really

the rest was 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, and 100% reason to remember the name (Brexit)

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol the press have been bigging her up as one of the more impressive labour figures recently

https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1397472325591834629?s=19

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

this is an interesting blog post on how many of the suffragettes became fascists and how that informs the british feminists becoming terfs.

https://asaseresin.com/2021/02/11/lesbian-fascism-on-terf-island/

i love this poo poo, people are so weird sometimes. militant lesbian fascists sounds like something out of a rush limbaugh rant

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lmao so trump wanted to start a war at the beginning of the pandemic

https://twitter.com/adamboultonSKY/status/1397484303035027457?s=19

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I have a odd feeling that when the dust settles in 50 years we are going to find out that Carrie is the cleverest one out of the lot of them (low bar low bar). Using the dog distracted from the hand shaking gently caress up, and if the only thing they have on him is that she badly decorated a flat using other people’s money, when we know billions were given away to Tory mates, then someone has been shielding him well

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Jose posted:

Lol the press have been bigging her up as one of the more impressive labour figures recently

https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1397472325591834629?s=19

we've refrained from tearing chunks out of the government because it's not what people want to see

but we've been eating ourselves with wild abandon

seriously who the gently caress is going to vote for labour in the next general election if nothing changes because they have surely lost the "hold your nose and vote labour anyway" vote that even milliband could rely on

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol this has a good round up of the state of UK journalism as the pandemic was really kicking off here that Cummings is demolishing

https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1246081785634701312?s=19

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

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https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1397492999018385408?s=20

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
Cummings also defending Sunak somewhat saying that it was Boris that delayed the lockdowns for economic reasons and not Rishi.

Sunak is definitely going to run for PM. He comes out of this looking great for saving people's livlihoods with the furlough scheme and for wanting to enter lockdown sooner.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lol it's blatantly untrue and he was behind the eat out to help out that caused a huge spike

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


British reporters are so loving pathetic theyr begging for scraps from cummings

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

Jose posted:

Lol it's blatantly untrue and he was behind the eat out to help out that caused a huge spike

Absolutely. It'll be interesting to see where that discussion goes, but Sunak was noteable for being one of the few that Cummings didn't throw under the bus so far.

DrVenkman has issued a correction as of 11:30 on May 26, 2021

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
And of course, this aged well

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1239257257466122247?s=19

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
https://twitter.com/ayeshahazarika/status/1397489466797867009?s=19

loving loll shut the gently caress up you loving hipster

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lmao

https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1397501484842070021?s=19

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

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What was said about her?

e: https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1397499152024678400

e2: source: identified

gonadic io has issued a correction as of 11:40 on May 26, 2021

CactusWeasle
Aug 1, 2006
It's not a party until the bomb squad says it is
He sure does talk about memes a lot

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

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Dommok and Johnson at Tanagra

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:

CactusWeasle posted:

He sure does talk about memes a lot
it's important (funny) to remember that he's an internet Rationalist community freak

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
worth remembering that one of the reasons the government/establishment were incapable of handling this is because the coalition government completely gutted the civil service. it only started to get back to numbers even remotely close to what it was before the coalition because of brexit

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
this news also came out today. the judge ruled that lying in a public inquiry isn't actually breaking the law so there is no case to answer

https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1397487783380459521?s=20

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gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

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https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1397491339818852355

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1238927668604801025

gonadic io has issued a correction as of 14:39 on May 26, 2021

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