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Sakurazuka posted:Spending 30 hours a week looking for jobs is what you are officially made to agree to Yes, imagine earnestly trying to do that (and still being yelled at)
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I can perhaps imagine it might be possible in london but anywhere else there aren't enough jobs to keep you going for more than a few hours.
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Boomers: Jernoman Crobny is an evil communist trying to take are houses, socialism and communism must be fought at every turn Also Boomers: Whatever happened to the values of society and community eh? Makes u think
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Question for more knowledgeable folks itt, what's the law on lockpicking tools in the UK again? I've been considering getting some for when I lock myself out etc. (the front lock in our shared house is super lovely), but I'm not sure in how much trouble would that get me?
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May 25, 2021 15:09
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Sakurazuka posted:Spending 30 hours a week looking for jobs is what you are officially made to agree to I live in Lincolnshire. Not only are there few jobs, but there are so few jobs available that I can actually see which companies have a high turnover by virtue of familiarity with the job titles and companies on offer. There are three factories and two retailers in particular whose positions are in and out indeed like a yo-yo.
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May 25, 2021 15:10
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OwlFancier posted:I can perhaps imagine it might be possible in london but anywhere else there aren't enough jobs to keep you going for more than a few hours. And that's if you're applying to every single job. The jobcentre is uniquely awful at what should be its primary function - getting people into work they're personally and professionally suited to and have the right qualifications for. The expectation to apply for jobs you have zero experience in or are wildly under/overqualified for, and as a result have no chance in hell of getting, is kinda the point. It's not about getting anyone into employment, it's about ritual humiliation. Private Speech posted:Question for more knowledgeable folks itt, what's the law on lockpicking tools in the UK again? I've been considering getting some for when I lock myself out etc. (the front lock in our shared house is super lovely), but I'm not sure in how much trouble would that get me? I very much doubt there's any legal barrier to possession and even if there is I can't imagine anyone gives enough of a poo poo to kick your door down in the night for them.
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Sakurazuka posted:Spending 30 hours a week looking for jobs is what you are officially made to agree to The worst part for me about this is that the UK has one of the lowest levels of unemployment in Europe, there's very little need to punish people so severely even if you follow the (publicly stated) Tory logic.
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May 25, 2021 15:12
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Private Speech posted:Question for more knowledgeable folks itt, what's the law on lockpicking tools in the UK again? I've been considering getting some for when I lock myself out etc. (the front lock in our shared house is super lovely), but I'm not sure in how much trouble would that get me?
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May 25, 2021 15:17
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Guavanaut posted:It's easy to admire the values of the past when you can just make them up. They want free speech to be racist and classist, not to criticise the establishment that's ridiculous.
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May 25, 2021 15:30
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Having had a "proper job" in their eyes before hitting the dole has shown me the way that it's two tier. Out of uni: "you have not applied for your mandatory weekly 15 jobs. this is your last warning" Today, just now: "oh don't worry about that you're clearly looking for real, heck, I'd hire you!!"
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May 25, 2021 15:49
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Tesseraction posted:Having had a "proper job" in their eyes before hitting the dole has shown me the way that it's two tier. I've posted about this in multiple iterations of the thread, but having an advisor who sees you as honestly trying (and probably "the right sort") makes a huge difference. On the couple of instances she was out of the office on holiday I had an absolute by-the-books excuse of a human who would gleefully threaten a sanction whenever I suggested, for instance, that I would probably be wasting my time in applying for the £140k Director role at HSBC just because I had worked in a financial services company in the past. So I applied, and now I'm earning £140k at HSBC! No, sorry, I mean 'So I applied, and heard nothing, for obvious reasons'.
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May 25, 2021 16:06
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ThomasPaine posted:
This is exactly my experience. I went dressed to any "interview" as I would in the office, treated it like a "work meeting" with vendors and had years of experience of computer touching. It was so easy to say the words they wanted to hear, and spent at most an hour a week filling out the nonsense forms etc to tick all the boxes. I could hear the disdain and aggression from other "work coaches" to people sat across from me, and then the change of tone and attitude to "Oh, but you're okay. Can't find job? Don't worry, it'll be okay." The fully armoured guards who take your work books and call your name, just set the tone for "we're expecting trouble, and we will finish it."
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100% but it would also be helpful if there were more resources emphasising how easy it is to just lie about almost everything so it takes a few minutes out of your day rather than a few hours.* I've always felt that the entire system is built to be very easy to game if you're a cynical, well presented, articulate middle-class type familiar with bureaucracy and able to performatively go through the etiquette etc, but almost unbearably oppressive if you try to play it earnestly and honestly and aren't used to paperwork, particularly if you struggle to adapt your mannerisms and appearance and especially if you openly get frustrated and aggressive (and that's without even getting into race etc). So with a few exceptions, the people who genuinely need the money the most find it hardest to avoid sanctions and are often told it's their fault for being so unreasonable when they're struggling to feed their kids, while those with an education and a few grand savings in the bank can get by relatively unmolested. It's transparently cruel and tbh just naked class warfare.
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Tesseraction posted:Having had a "proper job" in their eyes before hitting the dole has shown me the way that it's two tier. This is partly because they are overloaded. Back when I was unemployed, with a computer degree, I would have to wait sometimes to get seen, and told like you 'ah sure you will get one soon' My younger brother was a few years ago told to check in once every month as they divided the names from a-n m-z to lighten the load on them. Not sure if its the same now though.
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May 25, 2021 16:10
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Does anyone remember a UK videogame and i think general technology show that was mostly voiced over clips without a real presenter but had an intro with a robot with a tv on its chest or head possibly. I hope someone knows what im talking about here!
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May 25, 2021 16:16
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ThomasPaine posted::Screams in historian: There's a reason all these people hate modern academia. Trying to re-evaluate history is tantamount to actually traveling back in time and ruining the utopic idyll (even though historians have always been doing that kind of thing, they just weren't paying attention).
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May 25, 2021 16:18
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Barry Shitpeas posted:Yeah basically what I was getting at was that the OP video sounds more natural and conversational because that's how he was performing it. The accent might be more authentic but it seems pretty unlikely that it would have actually performed like that originally. But this in turn is asking for authenticity by asking for the "original performance". We are never going to be able to reach that because the gulf of years kind of prevents it. Also, having done history and worked in customer service at a historic "attraction" I can tell you for nowt that an awful lot of people want their own views regurgitated to them like a baby bird screaming at mum. Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 16:24 on May 25, 2021 |
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May 25, 2021 16:21
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Does anyone remember a UK videogame and i think general technology show that was mostly voiced over clips without a real presenter but had an intro with a robot with a tv on its chest or head possibly. I remember that. It was on ITV late at night, as in 2am-4am. Was is Cyber-something? CYBERNET! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1FBTeccMoI Man, I used to stay up just to watch this. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 16:25 on May 25, 2021 |
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May 25, 2021 16:22
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Does anyone remember a UK videogame and i think general technology show that was mostly voiced over clips without a real presenter but had an intro with a robot with a tv on its chest or head possibly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movies,_Games_and_Videos ?
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The difference in attitude between the staff in various centres and in various eras was incredible. First time I was unemployed it was a year after uni in a small, rich town (Winchester). This was back in the mid 2000s, so Blair's new deal had had a while to settle in. The area had less than 1% unemployment statistically (though of that 1%, around 75% were male). The staff were genuinely nice as long as I filled in the sheet to say I had jobsearched a few times a week, and even had an SEN co-ordinator who basically just gave me the right to refuse certain jobs. I lived comfortably enough to find a quiet office job that suited me. Next time was living back with my parents in the late 2000s. The staff there were absolutely hardened and had decided that everyone was to be treat as though they were trying to cheat the system. I had to bring in proof of at least one search per day and proof of three applications per week. Whereas Winchester used to let me refuse jobs because of [at the time misdiagnosed] dyspraxia, the Whitley Bay office made me justify any refusal of jobs they sent me at appointment. I did not live comfortably, I was a neurotic wreck exhausting myself jumping through their hoops, and the only reason I got out of it was because I was able to move back to Winchester for a bit, where friends were able to get me a job at the uni kitchens and shout me rent for the first month. Third time was living in Oxfordshire in the early 2010s, but in a lovely little town called Didcot which is culturally and architecturally still very much stuck in the 70s. The jobcentre staff were psychotic and we were fully into the tory hostile atmosphere by that point. They didn't want to hear about the RSI I had by that point, or the [still misdiagnosed] dyspraxia, or the severe anxiety I was on medication for. They didn't care that I couldn't drive and frequently suggested jobs with a two hour commute and then openly threatened me with sanctions if I even looked doubtful about applying. The bloke I saw regularly was called Wayne and he looked absolutely exhausted and demoralised. A family friend who ran an undertaker gave me a job (which was it's own stressful nightmare) but by the time I lost that job, I was married and in a similar situation to Tsietisen where they said I would only get the basic rate of something like £50 a month because my wife works over 16 hours a week. So I registered as self employed so that they'd leave me alone. In theory the only income I get now in terms of welfare is £300ish a year from a married tax break where I sort of dump my tax free allowance onto my wife's. E: I'm also bricking it at the probability of getting turned over to ATOS now I have an autism diagnosis, and having my professional diagnosis overturned by someone who did a week's training and thinks I don't 'look' disabled. So I'm not claiming benefits and am wracked with anxiety over my wife supporting us solo, which just makes my anxiety spiral even harder. Even such as these experiences have been, I can't help but feel that I've been in a much better place because I don't have a strong regional accent and have an ingrained inability to challenge authority figures on their bullshit. I would be interested to hear more from other people who have had long term experience of how the welfare system has changed over the years. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 25, 2021 |
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Ah poo poo it was cybernet but man that movies games and videos intro is familiar too!
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happyhippy posted:This is partly because they are overloaded. After I finished my first post-doc contract I was on the scratcher for a couple of months, and I had a good time going to the meetings at the dole office, which were basically like the Simpsons parent education class - "milk goes in the refrigerator, or failing that a cool, wet sack". They'd spend 30 mins explaining what a CV was to the room, then I'd tell them that I was waiting to hear back on my grant proposal for developing a novel high-throughput antibody screening platform, at which point they would  and I'd go back to doodling on the supplied worksheets
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if they give you any grief just ask them if they know who your fuckin da is imo 
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crispix posted:if they give you any grief just ask them if they know who your fuckin da is imo I'd be mortified if they knew who my dad is, that man is a complete knob
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quote:videogame tv chat I videotaped what I believed was a late night Channel 4 show in presumably 2000 and it had that early b-roll showcase of Gamecube demos, a preview of Majora's Mask, and a preview of American McGee's Alice. It was mostly footage of the games with some interconnecting footage with a guy, a girl, and maybe someone else, and during the Alice part they also had a toy rabbit in a vice squeaking covered in fake blood. Who remembers that.
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crispix posted:if they give you any grief just ask them if they know who your fuckin da is imo Better not pull that one with Corbyn
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I know this thread has a lot of people knowledgeable about UK infrastructure. My broadband is slowly getting shitter. I’ve had a few back and forths with my provider but while doing that, I traced back the wiring outside of the house (because there was a tree touching the cable from the pole to building and I wondered if it was that). On the outside of the building is this: https://imgur.com/a/TtyLJpJ Now out of all that mess, there is only a single wire connected on the cable that enters the building where our phone socket is, so I’m assuming that’s our phone line. But I’m surprised it works at all with a single wire, which makes me wonder if it is our line at all. Is that even possible?
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Have you tested it with a landline phone? The UK hasn't done one wire (earth return) telephony in a very long time, but there's a strange failure mode where ADSL will work (badly) over a single wire because of the frequency, but a phone definitely will not, so testing it by plugging a phone straight in would test that.
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I don’t have one, I’ll see if I can get hold of one. This is exactly the info I thought someone would have (the ADSL single wire failure mode) 
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Szmitten posted:I videotaped what I believed was a late night Channel 4 show in presumably 2000 and it had that early b-roll showcase of Gamecube demos, a preview of Majora's Mask, and a preview of American McGee's Alice. It was mostly footage of the games with some interconnecting footage with a guy, a girl, and maybe someone else, and during the Alice part they also had a toy rabbit in a vice squeaking covered in fake blood. A long dormant, cobweb covered part of my brain would like you to know that it's pretty sure that was Thumb Bandits.
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:I know this thread has a lot of people knowledgeable about UK infrastructure.  First of all - if you do *not* have Virgin, skip to the end. Guava is correct that in theory at least DSL-based products *might* work with just a single wire but I'd be absolutely astonished if they did if the single wire was in that condition. I assume you actually have a fibre-based product (Virgin only intermittently provide DSL services, either in areas where they have no fibre coverage or where the head-end is particularly ancient and difficult to replace) - the existence of a fibre splitter and a Virgin-branded junction box (instead of NTL/Telewest/ancient 80s provider) very strongly suggests that you're on their fibre network. Now I know basically gently caress all about DOCSIS and its wily ways, but I've seen enough shittily-installed fibre (in the same way [REDACTED] has seen a lot of dead hookers) to recognise it when I see it. Even *before* the junction box opened up and let it swing in the wind, that unsecured splitter and improperly-secured fibre would have allowed the fibre to move around, something it's really not supposed to do - microfractures building up in it would definitely explain steadily-decreasing performance. It's also possible that that's *not* your line, and your line actually goes through the junction box next to it, or a completely different one, but Spooky Scary Junction Box is letting water into the conduit which is what's decreasing your performance. Regardless of the specific technical reasons, junction boxes are not supposed to look like that, so I'd give them a call and tell them to come sort their poo poo out. Now if you don't have Virgin then that's not your line (but I'd still call them to come sort their poo poo out) and it's back to just banging your head against your provider's support to sort poo poo out.
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Lmao I think you need to get that sorted out mate
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That's a coax splitter isn't it? i assume there's fiber to whatever cabinet is feeding those various messes, but it looks like one Virgin coax, and a separate 4 wire phone cable. I know Virgin used to run both coax and phone back to their cabinets not unlike that, but all their telephony stuff is done inside the modem now, so if it's Virgin the problem is that the wall box has gone to poo poo, and that phone cable probably isn't even active, and if it's anything you plug into a phone socket the problem is probably that the phone wire has gone half off.
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Failed Imagineer posted:After I finished my first post-doc contract I was on the scratcher for a couple of months, and I had a good time going to the meetings at the dole office, which were basically like the Simpsons parent education class - "milk goes in the refrigerator, or failing that a cool, wet sack". I had the same. After 6 months they placed me on the same thing, a CV refresher course. Granted there was a few who did need this, never having none or touched a computer. I spent my time with a mechanic called Stanley chatting poo poo
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We did originally have virgin but switched away last year - we have been on ADSL via phone line since then. It was pretty solid at first but has slowly been getting worse. I’m wondering if Virgin hosed it up when they disconnected last year, and it’s slowly been getting worse by being exposed? I’m fairly certain the exposed wires are our phone line. There are 2 cables which go up the side of the building, and enter through the wall where our master BT socket is (and also the Virgin cable socket - but that’s not connected to anything now). One is from that old junction box, and the other is the exposed wires, which seem to eventually trace back to the telephone pole. Currently dealing with Vodafone support (no it’s not a WiFi issue). Edit: it’s hard to see but the phone cable (top right) connects via those exposed segments, into the cable that is running underneath the second virgin box. That cable runs back to the telephone pole. The cables coming in from the bottom (including the coax) come from underground and seem to be unconnected to anything. Pantsmaster Bill fucked around with this message at 18:26 on May 25, 2021 |
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I think you're even odds on whether or not that thing actually connects to the street or whether it's just an arcane rune that channels your internet from hell.
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:I’m wondering if Virgin hosed it up when they disconnected last year, and it’s slowly been getting worse by being exposed? Pantsmaster Bill posted:I’m fairly certain the exposed wires are our phone line. There are 2 cables which go up the side of the building, and enter through the wall where our master BT socket is (and also the Virgin cable socket - but that’s not connected to anything now). One is from that old junction box, and the other is the exposed wires, which seem to eventually trace back to the telephone pole.  Unfortunately it does that by falling back to older modes and losing speed. Openreach (or whoever that has been made the job of now. Serco or Tesco or Oliver Dowden's cousin's mate's dog) really ought to replace the whole thing and put a proper junction box on. OwlFancier posted:I think you're even odds on whether or not that thing actually connects to the street or whether it's just an arcane rune that channels your internet from hell. Pantsmaster Bill posted:Vodafone 
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:We did originally have virgin but switched away last year - we have been on ADSL via phone line since then. It was pretty solid at first but has slowly been getting worse. I’m wondering if Virgin hosed it up when they disconnected last year, and it’s slowly been getting worse by being exposed? Openreach wouldn't normally use the Virgin junction box or any part of their kit or wiring, really pretty much for this reason - they'll have their own completely separate path. The (unbroken) white wire coming out of that green junction box is definitely heading into the Virgin conduit through that insulating tape. I mean it's *possible* an incredibly lazy OR installer might have done that if they were unable to find the BT path and it was a particularly ancient Virgin install with an SMPF path back to the street cabinet, I suppose. Just to clarify - you mean the thinner of the three cables going off to the bottom-right goes to the telephone pole? e: I've also never seen multipair cable with a colour scheme like that (it's not impossible that the white sides are all perfectly lined up with the camera though) ee: Apparently cheap non-certified UTP *does* come in colour/white pairs but I still can't see Openreach using it instead of the massive reels of GPO they have in the vans. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 25, 2021 |
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:
Ah I didn't even notice that one tucked under there. Also the orange cable obviously *does* have some current running through it, assuming that green blob at the end of it is verdigris and not a really conveniently-placed bird poo poo. If it were me I'd be getting the multimeter out and tracing poo poo, but I think just tweeting that pic at VF, cc Openreach, would probably get a shitload more done.
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