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Australia (and I think NZ) is more urbanised than the UK and USA and most of europe. Australia also has state borders that were shut down which was a decision at the state level of government and the state premiers generally cooperated and they had strict lockdowns. Victoria was having an outbreak which was looking worse than all of the UK but with strict lock downs they brought it under control. Saying that Australia is an island and everyone lives in the outback and hand waving away what was achieved only serves as a fig leaf to countries that hosed up (like the UK, which is also an island...)
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Automatic Slim posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57101248 Sheng-Ji Yang would approve.
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May 26, 2021 04:21
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Australia "contained" it by just shutting up shop every time there was a outbreak, just: "hey there's some new cases here yesterday or day before so we're just going to shut down most things here and close the state border for a few days or maybe months starting 5pm today" that and mostly closing your international border is all it takes to reduce the spread enough to stop being over loaded apparently. UK was doing ok until they decided to just stop doing this, all reports from china seem to say they clamped down harder and got it very under control. Taiwan was doing great with this then they got slack and it bit them in rear end straight away and for some reason they decided to give the virus a head start after the new cases appeared. edit: Fojar38 posted:r/sino is a goldmine/septic tank of insanity I don't understand what "Well Tienanmen square was actually good" is supposed to prove in response to here's some photos of homelessness to prove it exists. Flannelette fucked around with this message at 05:24 on May 26, 2021 |
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May 26, 2021 04:30
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OMGVBFLOL posted:
Can't believe I'd forgotten about this image. Would have come in handy the last couple times I had to argue with tankies.
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May 26, 2021 04:36
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Flannelette posted:Taiwan was doing great with this then they got slack and it bit them in rear end straight away and for some reason they decided to give the virus a head start after the new cases appeared. Without fact checking myself worth a drat, I feel like part of the problem with Taiwan's lockdown is we have specific thresholds in place, which is good in a way because it would stop any fuckery or hesitation to lockdown. But I feel like the thresholds were set too early and with some level of assumption that COVID would be present at least to some extent in smallish amounts. What they should have done, once they completely eliminated domestic spread, was made those thresholds super low. Like China did where for resurgences once they got even a couple of cases they started shutting areas down. The other factor was that the big initial cluster was basically the worst case scenario; literally a tour group going around the country, including hitting up prostitution/sexual services. So not only did they go all over, but everyone involved actively avoided reporting their symptoms because they didn't want to get in to why/how it started. And now here we are.
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LimburgLimbo posted:lol I love the slingshot people have done between "wow look at those authoritarian assholes literally locking people in their homes, putting guards at every street corner, and tracking every store you go to! Typical China haha" early in the pandemic to "it's literally impossible that China stopped COVID!" now lol at thinking that China...china party failsons were competent enough to stop a virus while at the same time having to met their quotas. Look into yourself if you know China, did they do the hard work of containing the virus or did they just make a huge show of "stopping it" and they just say they did.
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May 26, 2021 09:29
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Honestly, I think China actually pulled finger on this one and took the virus seriously, and thus have it fairly well contained. After all, the higher-ups in the party could catch it.
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Automatic Slim posted:https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-57101248 quote:IPVM also claimed to have found marketing material from Chinese firm Hikvision advertising a Uyghur-detecting AI camera, and a patent for software developed by Dahua, another tech giant, which could also identify Uyghurs. the ai that identifies ethnic minorities is called hick vision lmao
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May 26, 2021 09:36
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Dongsturm posted:Aus and New Zealand have low density cities, bad public transport and very high rates of car ownership. A cursory Google suggests Australasia has about twice the urban population density of America. Hawaii has a higher urban population density than average for the USA but still much lower than the antipodes. Also Australia is about the size of the contiguous United States. If people want to consider that an island well ok.
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Tormented posted:lol at thinking that China...china party failsons were competent enough to stop a virus while at the same time having to met their quotas. their security apparatus is actually really good at stomping dissent, it just happens you can use the same tools against a disease, I see no problem in this it's like not believing stalin was able to do all those purges because communism "makes you lazy", maybe they just pretended to send people to siberia Vesi fucked around with this message at 11:15 on May 26, 2021 |
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May 26, 2021 10:49
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Weka posted:A cursory Google suggests Australasia has about twice the urban population density of America. Hawaii has a higher urban population density than average for the USA but still much lower than the antipodes. AUSTRALIA -n. A country lying in the South Sea, whose industrial and commercial development has been unspeakably retarded by an unfortunate dispute among geographers as to whether it is a continent or an island.
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May 26, 2021 10:58
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She'll be right is our version of chabuduo
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May 26, 2021 11:03
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Can New Zealand be Taiwan?
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May 26, 2021 11:17
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It is amusing when people insist, information-free, that China must be dealing with / covering up massive coronavirus infections, in the tone that they do. Really underscores that the hatred is the point. China is already engaged in so many different flavours of horrifying activities, why the struggle to make up more to add on the pile? Unless, of course, the presentation of information is secondary.
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May 26, 2021 12:27
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OMGVBFLOL posted:the ai that identifies ethnic minorities is called hick vision lmao
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May 26, 2021 12:31
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China called Australia white trash or something. I laughed.
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May 26, 2021 12:40
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Re: John Cena bowing down and apologizing for daring to mention that Taiwan exists. There is still an ex-WWE Champion that will stand up for #1 China. https://twitter.com/cmpunk/status/1397299736600793093?s=21 
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BrigadierSensible posted:Re: John Cena bowing down and apologizing for daring to mention that Taiwan exists. a cult of personality we can get behind
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May 26, 2021 13:21
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Xu Xiaodong and CM Punk tag team when
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May 26, 2021 13:29
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IMO it's rude to call Taiwan a seperate country to the PRC if they won't do it themselves.
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May 26, 2021 14:58
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My wife's remote, mostly Miao village in Hunan got zero cases of Covid. Her sister in Guangzhou says life is more or less back to normal. China can control its population, the USA can't.
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It's also important to remember that "back to normal" in China is not the same as in a country with civil liberties
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May 26, 2021 15:51
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The conspiracy theory talk doesn't make you sound smart. Did China cook its numbers? I'm sure they did, that's what happens with negative data there. But China's own experience is all the proof you should need that they're not covering up some sort of massive covid outbreak. Because... they already did that. At the beginning. And anyone paying attention to China knew there was an outbreak being covered up because there were whistleblower doctors sounding the alarm and regular people posting their experiences. China does its best to control information but they can't. It's not North Korea. It's not that hard for information to get in and out. They put up barriers, and that's enough to stop the vast majority of people from getting unapproved information since most people are lazy and don't really care that much anyway, so if they have to go through a bunch of hoops to access it few will. But they're still connected to the world. When serious poo poo goes down, word gets out quick. You don't have to believe the Chinese government to think covid is under control. If it weren't, the people would let you know. Like they did before, during the initial outbreak. Even info about the SARS coverup got out right away and back in 2003 there was very little internet access in China.
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May 26, 2021 16:28
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hick vision. i can't get over that. lmao what a world
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May 26, 2021 16:33
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Not to mention the Chinese diaspora is everywhere, and people talk to their family back home.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:hick vision. i can't get over that. lmao what a world it gets better mobile app is called hick connect source: electronic security employee in alabama 
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https://twitter.com/SpokespersonCHN/status/1397167519148888065 Shes getting ripped to shreds in the replies.
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May 26, 2021 19:12
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It's like they told the foreign ministry to emulate Darth Putin / Soviet Sergey / Ambo Yakovenko without understanding they're parody accounts.
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May 26, 2021 19:15
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Weka posted:IMO it's rude to call Taiwan a seperate country to the PRC if they won't do it themselves. Right? I mean, technically its all taiwan and the prc are an occupying force.
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Grand Fromage posted:The conspiracy theory talk doesn't make you sound smart. I recall that the doctor doctor who posted his experience was arrested and then died, apparently from covid. A good lesson for medical staff who would like to continue their career. Or continue their breathing. Not sure if your post is about me, but I don't believe there is a conspiracy to hide the collapse of civilisation. But there also isn't the glowing healthy situation that the authoritarian appreciation club posts in here. I'm looking at graphs like this : https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Average-Population-Densities-in-Built-up-Areas-in-49-Metropolitan-Areas_fig3_45131759 Transmission rates depend heavily on population density, and cities with similar population density are going to have similar problems. You can change that a lot with social controls but it's not going to zero. And it's sad that China isn't publishing good numbers because there is some really good science that could be done here.
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Pharohman777 posted:https://twitter.com/SpokespersonCHN/status/1397167519148888065 Hello yes Vietnam here I would like to speak with your manager
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May 26, 2021 20:28
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Come to think of it doesn't China have more ongoing territorial disputes than any other great power? It has to be up there.
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My Spirit Otter posted:Right? I mean, technically its all taiwan and the prc are an occupying force. iirc taiwan's rescinded their claim to the mainland, and even if they hadn't, it'd be just as much of a delusion as the PRC's claim to taiwan
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stellers bae posted:I actually love posts like that because it’s like a shibboleth for “never leaves the house” stellers bae posted:i'm literally in the US and I don't 'see' evidence of covid either? lmao
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Have you not seen a single person wearing a mask in the last 18 months, you loving stupid oval office, to name just the most blatantly obvious example of covids effects on society?
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Fojar38 posted:Come to think of it doesn't China have more ongoing territorial disputes than any other great power? It has to be up there. China borders the most countries and as far as I know has border disputes with all of them, plus the South China Sea nonsense. E: Looks like they might not have current disputes with Russia or the Central Asian countries they border. Taiwan may actually have more disputes than China because they still technically claim all of Qing territory, but for obvious reasons they don't really pursue any of them other than the Senkakus. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 26, 2021 |
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May 26, 2021 22:22
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Hell I will say it. I friggin love China!
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Grand Fromage posted:China borders the most countries and as far as I know has border disputes with all of them, plus the South China Sea nonsense. Hey, no disputes over here! I don't dispute that I own this land. Always did. This 'dispute' sounds kind of like a you problem tbh.
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Dandywalken posted:Hell I will say it. I friggin love China! Yeah Taiwan is pretty loving awesome. Shame about the PRC though
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