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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
because this is what i'm here for, i've learned about a previously unfamiliar music genre: belarusian military eurobeat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVnpn-Vz2dQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPi8280-qS8

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 07:22 on May 26, 2021

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Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


i say swears online posted:

the newsguy on bbc world service says a software engineer has come forward saying he designed a program that determines if suspected criminals are guilty and they're using it to replace courts in xinjiang

can't find an article on it yet but lol

Ah yeah, didn't Huawei get in trouble for having a "Uyghur / not Uyghur" flag in their facial recognition software. Phrenology is back and Big Tech.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

indigi posted:

wouldn't these be almost hopelessly outdated? or is it just the shell that's the design and they're stuffed full of smart microwaves in the galley and poo poo. idk anything about military technology

The Soviets built and launched the Riga in 1988. It was renamed to the Varyag in 1990. After the USSR collapsed in 1991, the government of the Ukraine put up the uncompleted hulk for sale - the PLAN bought it in 1998 and towed it all the way to Dalian, China.

They studied it, worked on it, and completed it, and recommissioned it as the Liaoning in 2012. It was reportedly "battle-ready" as of 2016, though it was being used as a training ship well into 2018.

I wouldn't call it "hopelessly outdated" - it doesn't carry as many planes as an American Nimitz-class carrier (the Liaoning's full complement is supposed to be 26 fighter planes and 14 helicopters), but then it was never intended to compete with those in the first place. As BrutalistMcDonalds said, it's still useful to get the PLAN used to the idea of conducting aircraft carrier operations as a matter of, well, praxis, even if you don't necessarily expect the thing to be used in a shooting war.

Indeed, the PLAN learned enough from the Liaoning that the second Chinese carrier, the Shandong, was built completely as a domestic endeavour - laid down in March 2015, completed in April 2018, commissioned in December 2019. It can even reportedly carry slightly more planes than the Liaoning, given some improvements in the design.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
They are capable ships in their own right, but they carry about half the aircraft that a Nimitz can. The J-15, which is based on the SU-33, should be comparable to a F-18. That said, pretty much all of the combat systems on them have been replaced including the radar/weaponry.

That said, China is clearly building supercarriers that should stand toe to toe with an American carrier.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

i say swears online posted:

the newsguy on bbc world service says a software engineer has come forward saying he designed a program that determines if suspected criminals are guilty and they're using it to replace courts in xinjiang

can't find an article on it yet but lol

here we go:

https://twitter.com/katecrawford/status/1397370626734661633

quote:

A software engineer claimed to have installed such systems in police stations in the province.

A human rights advocate who was shown the evidence described it as shocking.

...

The evidence was shown to Sophie Richardson, China director of Human Rights Watch.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

truly the chinese are weaponizing the technology weve long lived in terror of a robot with the awesome psychic powers of counselor deanna troi

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/rapplerdotcom/status/1397501496162463750

My current phone is a Xiaomi, and we also have an air fryer from them, so this is cool.

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 11:42 on May 26, 2021

Ferrinus
Jun 19, 2003

i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

indigi posted:

lmao I wonder what their software thinks of nonwhites, women, the neurodivergent, etc

just check its post history in the marxism thread

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Looks like some random posts on russian twitter are complaining that flights are being delayed or cancelled entirely. Because they are not getting approval for the new flight plans that bypass Belarus.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
are they bypassing it out of principle or because they’re worried more nazis will get arrested

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Its an effort to make Belarus even more of a pariah to the west.

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

https://twitter.com/SamSacks/status/1397596677750525954

Russiagate was a bad thing because it escalated tensions with Russia, which is why we have to escalate tensions with China over this fully manufactured controversy

Also amazing to watch Krystal Ball declare that a lab leak is "probably what happened" based on weak circumstantial evidence

e: haha oh my god

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1397596921305391108

Red and Black has issued a correction as of 18:17 on May 26, 2021

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

indigi posted:

are they bypassing it out of principle or because they’re worried more nazis will get arrested

EU sanctioned Belarus by preventing all of the European airlines from flying to Belarus.

Or something like that.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/24/eu-leaders-agree-belarus-sanctions-after-journalists-arrest

Honestly not keeping up with the exact details.

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Red and Black posted:

https://twitter.com/SamSacks/status/1397596677750525954

Russiagate was a bad thing because it escalated tensions with Russia, which is why we have to escalate tensions with China over this fully manufactured controversy

Also amazing to watch Krystal Ball declare that a lab leak is "probably what happened" based on weak circumstantial evidence

e: haha oh my god

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1397596921305391108

So, they have to be saying that China made the virus too, right? Otherwise it's a virus that existed out in the wild that they were studying in lab conditions, which then escaped, which means that it could have crossed the barrier at any point anyway and there would be no way of ever knowing? Like, I know that the whole point of this is to gin up sinophobia for political reasons, but if you think about what they are saying it only makes sense if you throw a bunch of assumptions that they refuse to add themselves because they are nonsense.

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

TeenageArchipelago posted:

So, they have to be saying that China made the virus too, right? Otherwise it's a virus that existed out in the wild that they were studying in lab conditions, which then escaped, which means that it could have crossed the barrier at any point anyway and there would be no way of ever knowing? Like, I know that the whole point of this is to gin up sinophobia for political reasons, but if you think about what they are saying it only makes sense if you throw a bunch of assumptions that they refuse to add themselves because they are nonsense.

It's the latter. The idea is that the virus was biologically engineered has been decisively disproven so they're going the unfalsifiable route

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Carriers are useless in a parity conflict because they'll just get sunk by submarines, if they're not knocked out by ship to ship missiles. China can already take on the United States in the Pacific where it counts: which is the South China Sea. If you're in range of missiles and submarines then your surface fleet isn't worth dogshit. China's carriers are mostly just showboats that'll only ever get used if they need to call in some debts.

President Xi standing on the deck of a carrier with a banner that reads 任务完成 behind him. China has finally regained control over the Diaoyu Islands

wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019
lmao at people now accepting "China Virus" now that Trump isn't the one pushing it

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
ruh roh

https://twitter.com/Volod_Ishchenko/status/1397544714916835329

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 23:05 on May 26, 2021

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Vasukhani posted:

lmao at people now accepting "China Virus" now that Trump isn't the one pushing it

scientific orientalism

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Just because he is an embedded reporter with nazis doesn't make him a nazi.

Leftist propaganda, smh.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

No wait, hold on.

[img]https://strana.ua/img/forall/u/0/92/0fc55ac4499bce3a15d0587b107b8585[1].jpg[/img]

Man was defacing Lenin's statue.

Whatever Batko is doing to him, it's not enough.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Lmfao no wonder all the bellingcat turds were pissed about him.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
would like to take a sledgehammer to that nazis face

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
"Taiwan isn't a country because it was founded by Marxists leninists."

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

Mr Hootington posted:

"Taiwan isn't a country because it was founded by Marxists leninists."

yah

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/samkimasia/status/1397096306896637953

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

got 'em

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Moon's US visit got a lot of good stuff back home. The Koreans use buikding new fab plant in the to US to exchange for making Moderna vaccine inside Korea.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

i disagree the main thing the liberals have been bragging about locally is the increase in the missile limit which absolutely no one cares about

they are pushing hard on moon is the greatest leader ever because he had a photo op with biden and its genuinely making me ill i actually get angry whenever i see one of those godawful banners

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
why do people care that the don met with one of his capos

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGSAmuOEzWc

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

Holy poo poo I thought this was a parody at first lmao. Just incredible.

strange feelings re Daisy has issued a correction as of 06:46 on May 27, 2021

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/biannagolodryga/status/1397610356185387012

digging the implication that forcing down planes with heads of state on them to arrest a person is actually less controversial than forcing down regular planes

Trash Ops
Jun 19, 2012

im having fun, isnt everyone else?

new xi land

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i think it works in chinese too because new zealand already kinda sounds like that

新西兰

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Some Guy TT posted:

digging the implication that forcing down planes with heads of state on them to arrest a person is actually less controversial than forcing down regular planes

also the implication that a non-commercial flight is less important than a commercial flight, it all comes down to money baby!

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Some Guy TT posted:

i disagree the main thing the liberals have been bragging about locally is the increase in the missile limit which absolutely no one cares about

they are pushing hard on moon is the greatest leader ever because he had a photo op with biden and its genuinely making me ill i actually get angry whenever i see one of those godawful banners

Moon might as well be. He has done very well in the pendemic IMO. Korea is making 2 different vaccines locally, they will get out of the pendamic in no time.

Compare to Choi Eng-wen the fake doctor who has absolutely done pathetic in the pandemic. She has gotten zero vaccine for Taiwan and still refuse to accept any Chinese brand Pfizer vaccine despite Taiwan is in the middle of a giant wave!

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

stephenthinkpad posted:

Moon might as well be. He has done very well in the pendemic IMO. Korea is making 2 different vaccines locally, they will get out of the pendamic in no time.

Compare to Choi Eng-wen the fake doctor who has absolutely done pathetic in the pandemic. She has gotten zero vaccine for Taiwan and still refuse to accept any Chinese brand Pfizer vaccine despite Taiwan is in the middle of a giant wave!

annoying your right-wing base by accepting communist GMO is more dangerous for your political future than murdering everyone equally. praxis

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/tutby/status/1397781924182122496

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lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
bit weird but hell

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