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Mr. Nice! posted:awful app lied to me and made me think this page was full. are you trying to page snipe on mobile? lol
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Mr. Nice! posted:awful app lied to me and made me think this page was full. Off by one error strikes again
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May 26, 2021 15:26
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akadajet posted:are you trying to page snipe on mobile? lol tried and failed  there were 39 posts and I knew it was a new page. i envisioned that as post count ending in a multiple of 39 when in reality it was at a 38. gotta have 40 unread posts on a page to get an app snype.
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May 26, 2021 15:27
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As they say, the two most common programming mistakes are off-by-one errors
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May 26, 2021 15:55
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Mr. Nice! posted:awful app lied to me and made me think this page was full. it is. full of poo poo!
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May 26, 2021 16:23
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My company deployed teams this week. pros: it's not Skype for business. cons: click on tab.... wait... wait... tab fully loads. is it like this everywhere or is my corporate spyware making GBS threads it up
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May 26, 2021 21:15
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the teams client is a huge piece of poo poo in every way, but no, it shouldn't be that unresponsive
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May 26, 2021 21:17
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Lol it spikes my CPU to 20% for a couple seconds to change a ui element
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May 26, 2021 21:21
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it will randomly stop rendering elements, maybe restarting the client will fix it, maybe not it will, given enough time, use up all available memory and cause the system to hang depending on the laptop there are a number of ways for it to somehow lock up the webcam driver such that the computer has to be rebooted to re-initialize it it can just refuse to allow you to enter credentials at all, making it impossible to even sign in but generally it's not terribly slow
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May 26, 2021 21:21
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Jenny Agutter posted:My company deployed teams this week. pros: it's not Skype for business. cons: click on tab.... wait... wait... tab fully loads. is it like this everywhere or is my corporate spyware making GBS threads it up its all server side so its laggy as poo poo but it shouldn’t be any worse than switching tabs
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May 26, 2021 21:21
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Jenny Agutter posted:Lol it spikes my CPU to 20% for a couple seconds to change a ui element that's electron for you
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May 26, 2021 21:21
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Jenny Agutter posted:My company deployed teams this week. pros: it's not Skype for business. cons: click on tab.... wait... wait... tab fully loads. is it like this everywhere or is my corporate spyware making GBS threads it up gonna go out on a limb here and say: "it's DNS".
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May 26, 2021 21:23
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it's always DNS when it comes to microsoft 365 issues
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May 26, 2021 21:24
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oh and the teams outlook plugin is so buggy that outlook will inevitably prevent it from loading because it has crashed too frequently, necessitating setting a GPO to explicitly override that
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May 26, 2021 21:26
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after removing our lovely-rear end Genband software phones and replacing that with Skype for Business, it now sounds like they're removing S4B in favour of Teams, which has the brilliant side effect of rendering people unable to make or receive calls if Teams has problems, so they have to use their personal cells lmao
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May 27, 2021 00:22
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the teams client sucks so bad because of all the javascript but the call and video stuff usually works well. the chat is almost unusable tho
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May 27, 2021 02:46
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Jenny Agutter posted:My company deployed teams this week. pros: it's not Skype for business. cons: click on tab.... wait... wait... tab fully loads. is it like this everywhere or is my corporate spyware making GBS threads it up yes. thats called electron and its a huge piece of poo poo
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May 27, 2021 02:47
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teams mostly works ok for me but yeah it takes an atrocious amount of ram
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May 27, 2021 03:26
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lol owned if you have to use teams
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May 27, 2021 06:30
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all the companies I have to do meetings with here all use teams. joining via edge is ok, works without hassle.
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May 27, 2021 10:55
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yeah, can understand that it is annoying clunk in regular use, but i use it a couple of times a week for contact with various other organizations, and it is mostly just fine. actually the by far most annoying thing about it for me is that it is apparently underpinned by the usual microsoft stack of disparate configurable policies and settings, so every organization has some random subset of the features disabled or working in a slightly different way.
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May 27, 2021 10:58
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wish i could hide my ugly face in Teams calls
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May 27, 2021 11:34
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video is optional (unless there's a gpo for forcing it enabled and your org uses it, in which case, double lmfao wtf)
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May 27, 2021 11:49
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if you gotta use video, turning off your own video tile is a pro move
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May 27, 2021 12:02
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i tried to use teams to meet with some external collaborators, the linux client installed and opened fine it needed me to sign in to join a video meeting?? then i signed in with a microsoft account that i apparently had (according to keep rear end), and "[my] organization needs to enable teams"? wtf??? we just used zoom, it actually worked
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May 27, 2021 13:58
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Lysidas posted:i tried to use teams to meet with some external collaborators, the linux client installed and opened fine see this is precisely the kind of poo poo i am talking about. the defaults in teams (unless something has changed super-recently) are such that if you are invited to a meeting you don't need an account and you get video and so on. rather i expect that what caused this issue was some random nest of policies on the side of the external collaborators, requiring something of your account which makes no sense outside their domain.
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May 27, 2021 14:50
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:see this is precisely the kind of poo poo i am talking about. the defaults in teams (unless something has changed super-recently) are such that if you are invited to a meeting you don't need an account and you get video and so on. rather i expect that what caused this issue was some random nest of policies on the side of the external collaborators, requiring something of your account which makes no sense outside their domain. yep it's probably this we don't really lock down or mess with poo poo in teams with gpo afaik and my team has had zero problems inviting external collaborators to meetings
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May 27, 2021 14:55
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for quite a while there were policies and configuration for teams dial-in endpoints that could only be managed through the old skype for business control center. then, for a while, they removed access to the skype for business control center, because it was depreciated, but they didn't move the configuration for those teams dependencies to the teams control center
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Gentle Autist posted:if you gotta use video, turning off your own video tile is a pro move
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jesus WEP posted:i want to know if im unconsciously doing some weird poo poo if you're wondering, you are
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May 27, 2021 15:06
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:yeah, can understand that it is annoying clunk in regular use, but i use it a couple of times a week for contact with various other organizations, and it is mostly just fine. v cool that my organization is deprecating skype for business so we'll have to use teams for messaging. sounds like it's an rear end load of gently caress
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May 27, 2021 15:07
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:see this is precisely the kind of poo poo i am talking about. the defaults in teams (unless something has changed super-recently) are such that if you are invited to a meeting you don't need an account and you get video and so on. rather i expect that what caused this issue was some random nest of policies on the side of the external collaborators, requiring something of your account which makes no sense outside their domain. yeah the defaults are pretty wide open and i had to unfuck the policies someone created in an attempt to "lock things down".
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May 27, 2021 15:09
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Jenny Agutter posted:v cool that my organization is deprecating skype for business so we'll have to use teams for messaging. sounds like it's an rear end load of gently caress skype 4 biz is going away so there isnt a choice, but also skype 4 biz is the only chat client worse than teams
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infernal machines posted:for quite a while there were policies and configuration for teams dial-in endpoints that could only be managed through the old skype for business control center. then, for a while, they removed access to the skype for business control center, because it was depreciated, but they didn't move the configuration for those teams dependencies to the teams control center i had hoped this meant the removal of dials ins from teams which would have put an end to the most egregious boomer calls, but i guess no such luck
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May 27, 2021 15:11
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im eternally thankful my company requisitions laptops that dont have cameras and as such our norms during covid never developed to have video chats
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May 27, 2021 15:13
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Shaggar posted:skype 4 biz is going away so there isnt a choice, but also skype 4 biz is the only chat client worse than teams a decade down the line and sametime is still the best chat client my company ever deployed
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May 27, 2021 15:14
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we still have sametime installed for some staff because the teams client is too bloated to run on remote desktop session hosts.
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May 27, 2021 15:20
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Shaggar posted:i had hoped this meant the removal of dials ins from teams which would have put an end to the most egregious boomer calls, but i guess no such luck no such luck. conference bridges still exist, and you can even mostly manage them from the teams control center now
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May 27, 2021 15:31
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time to read the last 5 pages to determine if the thread title is sarcastic or genuine before posting about my terrible, terrible antics
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Chris Knight posted:after removing our lovely-rear end Genband software phones and replacing that with Skype for Business, it now sounds like they're removing S4B in favour of Teams, which has the brilliant side effect of rendering people unable to make or receive calls if Teams has problems, so they have to use their personal cells lmao https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/direct-routing-survivable-branch-appliance you can still make phone calls if internet goes out with a certified SBC and phones which are not too old
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