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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Top Gear has kept its dedicated thread going for quite a while over in the car forum. Maybe we need to take the Taskmaster thread to

... uh, DIY?

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Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



For some strange reason i've decided to rewatch kid's cult TV classic gameshow Knightmare from beginning to end.

It's still as good as I remember, but christ some of the early teams were thick. No wonder nobody won in the first series.

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

You had to love that the first team to beat Knightmare became minor celebrities for a time.

I'm not sure you could get away with having a children's gameshow that is that hard nowadays.

Mickolution
Oct 1, 2005

Ballers...I put numbers on the boards
Partridge live tickets secured. Jackanackanory!

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Dell_Zincht posted:

For some strange reason i've decided to rewatch kid's cult TV classic gameshow Knightmare from beginning to end.

It's still as good as I remember, but christ some of the early teams were thick. No wonder nobody won in the first series.

How can you prepare for a game like Knightmare though.
In an age where kids shows were running about and jumping into ball pits, sitting around a TV screen and telling a near blind kid where to go must have felt like school.
Am surpised the helmet kid didn't take it off every 30 seconds going 'but I cant see the dragon!'.

Limmy should do a new version of Knightmare with his Falconhoof character. For adults.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Kill Falconhoof.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



happyhippy posted:

How can you prepare for a game like Knightmare though.
In an age where kids shows were running about and jumping into ball pits, sitting around a TV screen and telling a near blind kid where to go must have felt like school.
Am surpised the helmet kid didn't take it off every 30 seconds going 'but I cant see the dragon!'.

Limmy should do a new version of Knightmare with his Falconhoof character. For adults.

Eh? This was the late 80s/early 90s, pretty much all of the kids who went on it were D&D nerds or religiously read CYOA books. I certainly was one of the latter.

Plus before they started filming all teams were given a copy of "The Adventurer's Code" by the production team, basically a list of bullet points of how best to not die. Taking weapons unless specifically told to was a big no-no, and if there's a choice of doors and no indication which way to go, taking the right-most door would be the safest.

At least 70% of the teams ignored this advice.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Dell_Zincht posted:

Eh? This was the late 80s/early 90s, pretty much all of the kids who went on it were D&D nerds or religiously read CYOA books. I certainly was one of the latter.

Plus before they started filming all teams were given a copy of "The Adventurer's Code" by the production team, basically a list of bullet points of how best to not die. Taking weapons unless specifically told to was a big no-no, and if there's a choice of doors and no indication which way to go, taking the right-most door would be the safest.

At least 70% of the teams ignored this advice.

You mean they were given homework, and then didn't do it. Sounds like school to me.

Edit: And I was the same back then with D&D and computers, I still have a really battered copy of The Citadel of Chaos sitting around somewhere here.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 16:12 on May 27, 2021

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



happyhippy posted:

You mean they were given homework, and then didn't do it. Sounds like school to me.

The kids who went on Knightmare were the sort of kids who loved school, though

Mr Beens
Dec 2, 2006

happyhippy posted:

How can you prepare for a game like Knightmare though.
In an age where kids shows were running about and jumping into ball pits, sitting around a TV screen and telling a near blind kid where to go must have felt like school.
Am surpised the helmet kid didn't take it off every 30 seconds going 'but I cant see the dragon!'.

Limmy should do a new version of Knightmare with his Falconhoof character. For adults.

They actually do Knightmare Live at conventions, Edingburgh festival and stuff - https://www.knightmarelive.com/index.html

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo
Excellent

https://twitter.com/misssusannahf/status/1397323199772250112?s=21

Bogmonster
Oct 17, 2007

The Bogey is a philosopher who knows

SeanBeansShako posted:

Kill Falconhoof.

Was there ever anything real that was like Limmy's Adventure Call? Or was it just a weird mashup of Knightmare and those cheap astrology call in shows that used to be on daytime telly?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Bogmonster posted:

Was there ever anything real that was like Limmy's Adventure Call? Or was it just a weird mashup of Knightmare and those cheap astrology call in shows that used to be on daytime telly?

Doubt it. Before late night TV got infested with casino games they would have simple trivia games only. Some prob still do, but when I get to see TV these days its usually still roulette or poker. poo poo that be easily fixed.
They were there to make money, from drunks just getting in from the pub and thinking they were smart knowing the capital of France to win £500.
And not reading the small print for the avalanche of spam texts you will get for years after.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Here's an example of how one works. This dude is in Czech Republic but apparently it cropped up in a ton of European countries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVlWch9LzY8

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Bogmonster posted:

Was there ever anything real that was like Limmy's Adventure Call? Or was it just a weird mashup of Knightmare and those cheap astrology call in shows that used to be on daytime telly?

The closest I can think of is probably Hugo in that there was some kind of a video game narrative about saving Hugo's family and the viewer communicated with Hugo (I think, it's been ages). But instead of a text adventure, it was just primitive two-button minigames.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Also vaguely on subject, remember when SKY Digital had those games you could play on it.

I played Battleship a bit.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



SeanBeansShako posted:

Also vaguely on subject, remember when SKY Digital had those games you could play on it.

I played Battleship a bit.

AFAIK they're still there. I used to love the bumblebee one.

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures
I think it's hard to deny that Adventure Call would have been an absolute goldmine as a real show, and that we're truly blessed that Limmy had the integrity to give us the hilarious version instead.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

stev posted:

AFAIK they're still there. I used to love the bumblebee one.

I look forward to poking around with those things for nostalgia sake.

Undead Hippo
Jun 2, 2013

happyhippy posted:

Limmy should do a new version of Knightmare with his Falconhoof character. For adults.

Limmy attempted to get various forms of a Falconhoof show off the ground following "Limmy's show", and got absolutely no traction. He gave a faintly horrifying description of an 8 hour train journey stewing in anxiety, followed by a late starting and cut short pitch meeting with an exec who blatantly wasn't really paying attention, followed by an 8 hour trip back to Glasgow feeling hollowed out.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Dell_Zincht posted:

The kids who went on Knightmare were the sort of kids who loved school, though

The kids that went on knightmare were the sort of kids that got mercilessly bullied and loving HATED school. I dunno how you can be nerdy/autistic in the UK and have any other sort of experience really!

My favourite episode of knightmare is still the one with the kids from Yorkshire where they pronounce soap in a pretty old fashioned way and say it loving loads. It's amazing. I remember being a kid and being shocked at people speaking kinda like me on TV, it was great. I do kinda feel like it's the sort of show that wouldn't get made in the modern TV environment because it's too risky and weird which is a real shame.

Taear fucked around with this message at 22:15 on May 27, 2021

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Undead Hippo posted:

Limmy attempted to get various forms of a Falconhoof show off the ground following "Limmy's show", and got absolutely no traction. He gave a faintly horrifying description of an 8 hour train journey stewing in anxiety, followed by a late starting and cut short pitch meeting with an exec who blatantly wasn't really paying attention, followed by an 8 hour trip back to Glasgow feeling hollowed out.

Now that he's a full-time twitch streamer, he could probably do it on his own terms, if he wanted to. I doubt he wants to, as he's perfectly fine playing video games and doing occasional improv, but it could work great as a charity stream one day.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
Al Murray trying and failing to explain Paul Chaudry on the Taskmaster podcast is a wondrous thing.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
Re: Taskmaster discussion: a new thread.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Taear posted:

The kids that went on knightmare were the sort of kids that got mercilessly bullied and loving HATED school. I dunno how you can be nerdy/autistic in the UK and have any other sort of experience really!

My favourite episode of knightmare is still the one with the kids from Yorkshire where they pronounce soap in a pretty old fashioned way and say it loving loads. It's amazing. I remember being a kid and being shocked at people speaking kinda like me on TV, it was great. I do kinda feel like it's the sort of show that wouldn't get made in the modern TV environment because it's too risky and weird which is a real shame.

We obviously went to very different schools, because nearly every kid in my school wanted to be on Knightmare or Fun House.

As a Yorkshireman myself, it was pretty cool to see kids on there talking like me as well.

"Tekk the surrrrrrp"

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.


Now there was a show that looked like a whole lot of fun with prizes to be won. A real crazy show where anything goes.

The one memory of fun house that has stuck in my head for years is during the final question at the end. They get asked the question "name three pieces on a chess board" to which one of the kids immediately blurts out "Rook, Knight, Castle". This causes the other kid to just glare at the first knowing that he just lost them the star prize.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Dell_Zincht posted:

We obviously went to very different schools, because nearly every kid in my school wanted to be on Knightmare or Fun House.

As a Yorkshireman myself, it was pretty cool to see kids on there talking like me as well.

"Tekk the surrrrrrp"
This is also my experience, growing up in Yorkshire! Everyone wanted to be on it.

My dad is a southerner and I somehow ended up with his accent, though, despite growing up in Scarborough. Weirdly.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Tsietisin posted:

Now there was a show that looked like a whole lot of fun with prizes to be won. A real crazy show where anything goes.

The one memory of fun house that has stuck in my head for years is during the final question at the end. They get asked the question "name three pieces on a chess board" to which one of the kids immediately blurts out "Rook, Knight, Castle". This causes the other kid to just glare at the first knowing that he just lost them the star prize.

As a kid I wanted to drive those go-karts soooooo much.

The best "Star Prize" fail were the kids who had to name 3 emergency services.

They said Police, Ambulance, and........The AA.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



I had Jungle Run and Raven growing up which were fun in their own way but it's a shame there wasn't anything with gimmicks as cool as Knightmare.

There was also To Me To You which I don't recall anyone ever winning.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



stev posted:

I had Jungle Run and Raven growing up which were fun in their own way but it's a shame there wasn't anything with gimmicks as cool as Knightmare.

There was also To Me To You which I don't recall anyone ever winning.

The thing about Knightmare was it was FAR too ahead of it's time. It was constantly hampered by technology restraints, you can see by Series 8 they'd done all they could do with it, VR wouldn't be commercially feasible for another good few years.

To Me To You was a bizarre programme. It seemed like it would be common sense to give The Chuckle Brothers their own gameshow, but often the rules didn't make any sense and the comedy interactions with contestants was a bit awkward.

Now Terror Towers, there's a good programme!

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.

Undead Hippo posted:

Limmy attempted to get various forms of a Falconhoof show off the ground following "Limmy's show", and got absolutely no traction. He gave a faintly horrifying description of an 8 hour train journey stewing in anxiety, followed by a late starting and cut short pitch meeting with an exec who blatantly wasn't really paying attention, followed by an 8 hour trip back to Glasgow feeling hollowed out.

From the stories he's told it really does seem like making TV was slowly killing him. There's one he told about getting the news that he was going to make another series and he had a moment of very brief elation followed by complete dread and anxiety at the thought of having to sit there and come up with it. I think the way he saw it was being successful took the joy away from it.

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures

Tsietisin posted:

Now there was a show that looked like a whole lot of fun with prizes to be won. A real crazy show where anything goes.

The one memory of fun house that has stuck in my head for years is during the final question at the end. They get asked the question "name three pieces on a chess board" to which one of the kids immediately blurts out "Rook, Knight, Castle". This causes the other kid to just glare at the first knowing that he just lost them the star prize.
One of my fav Adam Buxton bits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cd2TLIbhMg

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Haha, I love it.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






I once saw Pat Sharp in Toys r Us when I was a kid when he had the full mullet. It was beautiful.

Anyway, credit to him, hes actually sort of followed on from that clip by writing an autobiography which is mostly fictional as well. A friend of mine compared it very favourably to Alan Partridge's book.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011
If we're talking Fun House, did you know that the Funhouse Twins put out an album in Japan? Shampoo were a bigger success in Japan than they were, well, anywhere else and Avex were looking for a similar group.

In fact I've just discovered a live video of them doing the their title track on CITV which is weird as the album was Japan only? Anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_-y_miNiQo

You can actually buy their album digitally in the UK now https://www.amazon.co.uk/Twin-Thing-ATT/dp/B00L5RQYTS but it's missing 2 Japan exclusive tracks (also you can get the Japanese album for under 100 yen + shipping, huge price difference)

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



ookiimarukochan posted:

If we're talking Fun House, did you know that the Funhouse Twins put out an album in Japan? Shampoo were a bigger success in Japan than they were, well, anywhere else and Avex were looking for a similar group.

In fact I've just discovered a live video of them doing the their title track on CITV which is weird as the album was Japan only? Anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_-y_miNiQo

You can actually buy their album digitally in the UK now https://www.amazon.co.uk/Twin-Thing-ATT/dp/B00L5RQYTS but it's missing 2 Japan exclusive tracks (also you can get the Japanese album for under 100 yen + shipping, huge price difference)

They were also both in Tim Burton's Batman.

No, really.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Dell_Zincht posted:

They were also both in Tim Burton's Batman.

No, really.

I wouldn't take their word for it.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I thought they might be the Smilex girls, but no. I have to imagine they might be extras in the Joker parade scene.

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



The_Doctor posted:

I thought they might be the Smilex girls, but no. I have to imagine they might be extras in the Joker parade scene.

Pretty much all of Batman (1989) was filmed in England so it's not entirely unlikely they were extras.

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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
my descent into a bitter and repressed husk of a man who spends his weekends writing Strongly Worded Letters can be traced back to not getting to go on Fun House :manning:

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