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I might need some context for understanding why that is objectionable as I have not heard of the IMWS Or are halal chicken shops in general antisemitic?
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il_cornuto posted:https://twitter.com/BrokenHardie/status/1398200504887414784?s=20 the replies are insane, but I especially like this one https://twitter.com/tony_como/status/1397989124972363776?s=19 uwu poor little puppy Israel being bullied by the mean nazi Labour party
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OwlFancier posted:I might need some context for understanding why that is objectionable. Because anything other than uncritical support for the Israeli regime is anti-semitic.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:No, I think the person who's post you were responding to is the kind to see things like 'young people use plastics' and assume that it's a choice young people made rather than one they had foisted on them, like the whole 'participation trophies poo poo. Oh sorry, I misunderstood. Its a sort of yes. The person I had this conversation with was a bit of a surprise when I saw them share the image. Participation trophies and the like they don't really care about, (they'd probably encourage that specific thing I think as they're usually the first to make a point of asking kids "ok you didn't win, but you had fun playing right?" at events. Good egg there). I think it was a case of they felt personally attacked by the rhetoric of all "olds" have hosed everything and we're mad about it, and they were fed up with it. But yes the majority of people I've seen sharing that image fit the profile you've outlined.
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OwlFancier posted:I might need some context for understanding why that is objectionable as I have not heard of the IMWS the t-shirts have an abstract map of the entire territory on them not sure the raised fist element would have been quite so obvious if it was superimposed on a map of Gaza plus area A and maybe B of the west bank
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May 28, 2021 18:30
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No fisting the nation of israel then, gotcha.
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May 28, 2021 18:31
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Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:I think it was a case of they felt personally attacked by the rhetoric of all "olds" have hosed everything and we're mad about it, and they were fed up with it. But yes the majority of people I've seen sharing that image fit the profile you've outlined. I feel like it's like 'white privelage,' where some people are able to accept that they are part of a generation that happened to be born with a massive advantage, and some other people see it as a personal accusation over their personal behaviour.
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May 28, 2021 18:44
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They're just utterly incompetent. A hand picked politcal newbie and they don't have someone sat on her all day every day to rubber stamp everything? How does something like this get the green light. Regardless of how ludicrous it is to be called anti semitic for supporting a charity to get food to starving kids, anything involving israel and palestine is a lightning rod for loving idiots and would do nothing but generate negative press. Who the gently caress is in charge of this. Seriously?
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Borrovan posted:Just for clarity, as an academic I don't want to go on record as saying that regulatory law is a satisfactory way of achieving environmental justice. You can regulate consumer behaviour, but regulatory law is a poo poo way of policing businesses, because it invariably results in the regulators needing to play nice with the businesses in order for the businesses to co-operate enough for them to be able to do anything, and also lol meaningful sanctions for business aren't real, they'll just either pay the fines out of the big bucket of cash they made breaking the law, or the individuals concerned get a big bonus for making a bunch of money & then retire before anyone notices it was illegal. I've posted about it before but the most effective way of policing businesses for environmental stuff seems to actually be private enforcement via NIMBYs, which is also poo poo for obvious reasons. I used to enjoy environmental law, but I couldn't study it for a living because there are no solutions, only problems. Surely the most effective strategy is 
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In my opinion politicians should condemn Israeli war crimes
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OwlFancier posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1398266910110851075 I wonder if the CLP are having their fundshare from the members in their own areas suspended from HQ too? Not a single thing I've seen makes me regret leaving the party shortly after GE2019. Today I had an email from Unite asking for members in the Labour Party to go to more meetings to try to influence policy. There's not a chance in hell of them being able to do this. anti-semitic t-shirts - thank god I'm signed out of twitter, fighting myself not to sign in and start ranting. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:59 on May 28, 2021 |
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Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:I think I've discussed this in the UKMT before and Jaeluni mentioned having seen the same thing too. Prior to Covid, when Extinction Rebellion were a bigger deal and bringing traffic to a grinding halt in major cities for a few weekends, a long read image rant was being shared on Facebook. The image was a rant directed at today's youth (which given the way it was written, could be anybody under 30). It was a lengthy "In my day!" screed of electric milk floats, placing empty glass milk bottles on your doorstep for collection the following morning, paper bags for groceries, bottle banks outside supermarkets, learning to repair clothes rather than today's culture of disposable cheap clothing etc. All this and more, followed by a stern "You've all got plastic stuff now so stop telling ME I'm destroying the planet and should go green!" We've definitely improved at some things and got worse at others (and still need to fix the loving housing stock in a ton of places). Borrovan posted:My dad did energy efficiency stuff at a big commercial dairy for years, the reason they switched from reusable glass milk bottles to plastic ones is because it actually consumes more energy to sterilise the bottles than it does to just make new ones. You can actually kind of rely on capitalists to make the more energy efficient choice when energy is one of their biggest expenses.  ) or we can find some better way of dealing with all the plastic, becauseOwlFancier posted:A lot of single use plastics are quite efficient if you ignore the externalities and have a lot of inertia behind them, so yeah if you want to go sustainable you have to legislate. Which is why plastic to oil (to make more plastic) is probably a good investment at the social level at present, despite its problems, because plastics to poor countries (because gently caress you) cannot go on. Borrovan posted:Incidentally, the reason we don't sell milk in bags that consumers put into a reusable jug like some countries do is because no fucker buys them. They trialled that for a few years, the Waitrose crowd bought a few but it just wasn't economical to keep the machines running. 
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crispix posted:you know how some milkmen did yoghurts and orange juice and stuff as well? well apparently in NI some milkmen functioned as runners for paramilitaries I always wondered why that man and son were killed in their milk float thing I read on wiki a while back.
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May 28, 2021 19:19
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Imagine if they banned milk bottles and you had to get it in a bag. The "the bins!" crowd would go absolutely apeshit. I'd vote for it
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May 28, 2021 19:26
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I have come to the conclusion the humanity was created by the lowest bidder.
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May 28, 2021 19:31
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Crossposting this because it made me laugh Actually the first line in his wikipedia article. Desperately want it to be added to many other public figures.
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May 28, 2021 20:00
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Good luck! And don't forget the survival kit in a tobacco tin (or mints tin). He seems really keen on lubricants.
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May 28, 2021 20:04
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Borrovan posted:
I'm surprised those fridges are still in use, all the ones here have glass doors on them, presumably to waste less energy. Seems a pretty easy change to make with no real downsides (other than buying new fridges).
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May 28, 2021 20:13
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That depends on whether or not you would lose money from people having trouble accessing them (also in the sense of making restocking take longer and having to hire more people to do it) and from furious old people screaming about how it's a conspiracy to stop them shopping or something. Enough to offset the electric bill.
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May 28, 2021 20:18
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I doubt you would. About 20 years ago Cadburys introduced fridge shelves for keeping their chocolate bars from melting in summer. They lasted maybe a year, either because noone gave a poo poo either way, or else it coincided with Kraft buying them out and replacing all the perishable ingredients with petroleum byproducts
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May 28, 2021 20:21
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I think some of the shops I've worked in have shelf kit that is older than I am so "new fridges" is probably an unthinkable luxury.
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May 28, 2021 20:23
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Jesus this has triggered ye olde flashbacks. They were still going when I was a kid but we never really used them as they were in a bit expensive for so little. We used to call lemonade 'millern' as it was our baby talk on 'Maine', think my brother says it still sometimes.
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OwlFancier posted:That depends on whether or not you would lose money from people having trouble accessing them (also in the sense of making restocking take longer and having to hire more people to do it) and from furious old people screaming about how it's a conspiracy to stop them shopping or something. Enough to offset the electric bill. What self-respecting, letters-to-the-council-writing, red-faced old fart is buying supermarket sandwiches rather than doing them themselves like they did in the Blitz? Do Tesco even do prepackaged corned beef and piccalilli sandwiches?
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big scary monsters posted:What self-respecting, letters-to-the-council-writing, red-faced old fart is buying supermarket sandwiches rather than doing them themselves like they did in the Blitz? Do Tesco even do prepackaged corned beef and piccalilli sandwiches? I don't know if it is different in other parts of the country but up here everything chilled in the supermarket is sold from open fridges. As is some of the frozen, they have the open trench freezers. The only shop I have ever been in that has fridges with doors on was a newer build co-op. But the sandwich fridge is just the same as the other ones, runs off the same giant fridge loop with the big compressor that pisses coolant every couple of weeks.
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Although I guess they wouldn't let never buying the sandwiches themselves stop them complaining, so maybe you're right.OwlFancier posted:I don't know if it is different in other parts of the country but up here everything chilled in the supermarket is sold from open fridges. I think I've just been away from my beloved homeland too long because while now I think about it that does sound right, it also seems very strange and wrong to me these days. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 28, 2021 |
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I'm still trying to decide what the Labour mascot would be. I think it'd be a whippet (to appeal to the Red Wall ©) with a Butcher's Apron around its neck as a kerchief (to appeal to the racists). Labour would want to make it female to appeal to women, but when that doesn't focus group well the message from central command is to avoid gendering the dog. Consequentially MPs alternatively refer to it as "he" and "she", resulting in the mail accusing Labour of having a trans pet mascot. The Tories gain three points.
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big scary monsters posted:I think I've just been away from my beloved homeland too long because while now I think about it that does sound right, it also seems very strange and wrong to me these days. I have not ventured to the land of waitrose and john lewis that is the southern realms, so I do not know if they therein have ensconced their deli meat packages in a crystal prison.
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happyhippy posted:Jesus this has triggered ye olde flashbacks. As I said earlier. They are still going and will deliver to your door and collect the bottles. My wife has a childhood love of Pineappleade and I have become fond of the Cloudy Limeade
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serious gaylord posted:They're just utterly incompetent. A hand picked politcal newbie and they don't have someone sat on her all day every day to rubber stamp everything? politicians supporting Palestine is actually cool and good, hth
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Just Another Lurker posted:I have come to the conclusion the humanity was created by the lowest bidder. I don't know about 'created'. More a 'race to the bottom'. Remaking ourselves to be as cheap and nasty and easily breaking down as possible. Someone's probably making a lot of God/AlienMoney off us. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 21:06 on May 28, 2021 |
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Bloodly posted:I don't know about 'created'. More a 'race to the bottom'. Remaking ourselves to be as cheap and nasty and easily breaking down as possible. Someone's probably making a lot of God/AlienMoney off us. GodeCoin
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Julio Cruz posted:politicians supporting Palestine is actually cool and good, hth Not op, and I agree with you, but I doubt the Labour leadership want her posting stuff like this at all. It would be quite funny if the Labour party inadvertently propped up a socialist they thought would just be some wet behind the ears centrist they could easily control.
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winegums posted:Not op, and I agree with you, but I doubt the Labour leadership want her posting stuff like this at all. luckily I don't give one single poo poo what the Labour leadership want rn
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OwlFancier posted:The ideal solution, of course, is milk plumbing. I will not be taking further questions at this time. Mike Wozniak has entered the chat
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May 28, 2021 22:06
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Julio Cruz posted:politicians supporting Palestine is actually cool and good, hth Of course it is, but its going to get exactly the same reaction this did and with Starmers 'strong against antisemitism' shite thats why its so baffling to me that shes allowed to do this. They are just useless.
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Julio Cruz posted:luckily I don't give one single poo poo what the Labour leadership want rn The point, really, is their incompetence. They are meant to be the sensible adults who can win elections and yet they're letting poo poo like this happen. They're just larping as the poo poo but sort of effective authoritarian Blairites.
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Aphex- posted:Mike Wozniak has entered the chat The eyeball out of Monsters Inc.?
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