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The Swiss are just Alp Danes.
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Carthag Tuek posted:i bet they still get purple hearts for especially bloody drone strikes And for being a bloody idiot.
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May 28, 2021 17:56
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Kennel posted:The Swiss are just Alp Danes. 
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May 28, 2021 17:57
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The swiss are coward alsatians.
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May 28, 2021 17:59
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Alhazred posted:Which may suggest that the fear of a bloody battle may have been a bit exaggerated. It was more than enough to cover Vietnam and have 30 more years of Purple Hearts, so I think they were expecting a lot.
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May 28, 2021 19:45
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Kennel posted:The Swiss are just Alp Danes. Nah. The Swiss are Alp Norwegians, weird mountain people with way too much money. The Germans are middle Europe's Swedes, the large industrious country with a poo poo, but bizarrely popular music scene. The Austrians are the Danes of the German-speaking countries, perverted and racist as all fuckery.
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May 28, 2021 20:10
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Cause of death for roman emperors: 20 died of natural causes. 23 was assassinated. 9 died in battle. 8 was probably assassinated. 5 committed suicide. 1 died in captivity.
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May 28, 2021 20:13
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KozmoNaut posted:Nah. 
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May 28, 2021 20:17
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Alhazred posted:Cause of death for roman emperors: larry_david_pretty_good.gif just read about the battle of Crécy in 1346. It's pretty much the same setup as Agincourt in 1415: The French outnumber the English 3 to 1, but the English are able to use the landscape to their advantage and deliver a devastating victory. I know history is written etc, but French sources don't disagree so I mean they should've learned a lesson for the latter one, no? wtf. Literally 1,542 French noblemen died.
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May 28, 2021 20:25
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They were basically expecting the Battle of Okinawa but all of Japan and even more fanatically defended. The initial invasion of Honshu alone was going to involve up to 40 divisions (D-Day was 12 by comparison). Half a million Purple Hearts seems like a safe bet when you're being that pessimistic.
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May 28, 2021 20:26
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Carthag Tuek posted:larry_david_pretty_good.gif But somehow Valois kept the throne and the royals who started the war failed and lost everything
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May 28, 2021 20:34
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My grandfather was on a support ship that was assigned to close beachhead support for the invasion of Japan. The captain told the crew all to make sure they settled their affairs and wrote home before they were going to sail off to join the invasion fleet. He said none of them expected to survive the first few days.
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May 28, 2021 20:39
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:They were basically expecting the Battle of Okinawa but all of Japan and even more fanatically defended. The initial invasion of Honshu alone was going to involve up to 40 divisions (D-Day was 12 by comparison). And that was after they expected to invade and occupy part of Kyushu with a sizeable invasion force for several months, and never mind all the kamikaze attacks on the fleet itself, where Allied intelligence on the number of planes and boats and everything the Japanese had (And the fuel available for them) was a good bit below what they actually had. Operation Downfall would have been a bloodbath. EDIT: For those interested, there’s a very good book called Hell to Pay about the whole subject. fartknocker has a new favorite as of 20:43 on May 28, 2021 |
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May 28, 2021 20:40
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:But somehow Valois kept the throne and the royals who started the war failed and lost everything sure, but i was speaking to like military strategy. 70 years is a lot of time to absorb a lesson, but there must at least have been a bunch of intervening battles that skewed the lesson of archers being a winning strategy back to mounted knights. also i guess chivalry was a thing
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May 28, 2021 20:55
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e2: also re: staying in power, it might be good for the king if the nobles are culled regularly "through no fault of his own", it prevents them from creating too tight alliances and consolidating too much power
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May 28, 2021 20:57
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fartknocker posted:And that was after they expected to invade and occupy part of Kyushu with a sizeable invasion force for several months, and never mind all the kamikaze attacks on the fleet itself, where Allied intelligence on the number of planes and boats and everything the Japanese had (And the fuel available for them) was a good bit below what they actually had. Operation Downfall would have been a bloodbath. Imma set a reminder to check that out from the library, I finally got around to watching The Pacific last month and holy hell oh god I'm getting into WWII stuff I'm turning into a Dad and I don't even have kids
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May 28, 2021 21:03
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Phy posted:Imma set a reminder to check that out from the library, I finally got around to watching The Pacific last month and holy hell Just remember as you fall down the hole that nazi tanks were actually hilarious trash fires, not marvels of precise german engineering
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May 29, 2021 00:48
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Nazi tanks are in fact the archetype of German engineering. Just don’t misunderstand what German engineering is.
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May 29, 2021 00:50
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Phy posted:Imma set a reminder to check that out from the library, I finally got around to watching The Pacific last month and holy hell If you need other recommendations or questions, feel free to check the excellent MilHist thread. If you watched The Pacific, at some point read Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors about the battle of Samar, which is all sorts of  and 
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Just remember as you fall down the hole that nazi tanks were actually hilarious trash fires, not marvels of precise german engineering Was this the thread that had the great effort post about how lovely Nazi uniforms were?
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May 29, 2021 01:09
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Probably the milhist thread
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May 29, 2021 01:10
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Carthag Tuek posted:i bet they still get purple hearts for especially bloody drone strikes A drone operator gets carpal tunnel syndrome in the line of duty, he gets a Purple Heart.
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May 29, 2021 01:12
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It was the previous iteration of the Milhist thread. Starts partway down Cessna’s first page of posts.
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May 29, 2021 01:12
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SPEAKING OF NAZIS, my grandfather was a malgré-nous (alsatian drafted into wehrmacht service) and I have a bunch of his diaries. One of these days I'll translate and post them. Some standout bits include pissing on his own hands to keep warm and getting penal duty just off the front because he hadn't shaved.
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May 29, 2021 01:31
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Ever read a novel set in historical times(or at least with characters from historical times) and see some odd terminology used that you have no idea what it means, usually when I see that kind of thing a quick Google search is enough to find what I need to know, today I am defeated, was finishing up a reread of Poul Anderson's classic The High Crusade and three different terms I have never heard of before or could find via Google were in one paragraph, I figure maybe someone here could help me figure it out, these are the troublesome words in question; Quirling Vosheny Golarice All I know is that they were used in the context of an alien character describing lesser sins that they and their race were susceptible to committing
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May 29, 2021 02:17
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Source4Leko posted:My grandfather was on a support ship that was assigned to close beachhead support for the invasion of Japan. The captain told the crew all to make sure they settled their affairs and wrote home before they were going to sail off to join the invasion fleet. He said none of them expected to survive the first few days. Kind of like the US forces in Korea plan of hopefully those of us not killed in the first hours of the war can set up stuff enough for follow on forces to utilize.
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May 29, 2021 02:20
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drrockso20 posted:Ever read a novel set in historical times(or at least with characters from historical times) and see some odd terminology used that you have no idea what it means, usually when I see that kind of thing a quick Google search is enough to find what I need to know, today I am defeated, was finishing up a reread of Poul Anderson's classic The High Crusade and three different terms I have never heard of before or could find via Google were in one paragraph, I figure maybe someone here could help me figure it out, these are the troublesome words in question; If you're near a library check and see if they have access to the Oxford English Dictionary, they maintain I believe the largest historical dictionary of English words
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May 29, 2021 02:29
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drrockso20 posted:Ever read a novel set in historical times(or at least with characters from historical times) and see some odd terminology used that you have no idea what it means, usually when I see that kind of thing a quick Google search is enough to find what I need to know, today I am defeated, was finishing up a reread of Poul Anderson's classic The High Crusade and three different terms I have never heard of before or could find via Google were in one paragraph, I figure maybe someone here could help me figure it out, these are the troublesome words in question; They're made-up words. e: And no-one loving dare burts in Fishmeching with Wikipedias akimbo how all words are made up.
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May 29, 2021 02:39
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I first read “Quirling” as “Quisling” and thought “oh that guy. Norwegian. Turned coat for the Nazis. His name was a byword for ‘traitor’ for decades thereafter.” Now I see your word has an ‘r’ and not an ‘s’, but I really don’t turn up much for “quirling” besides as an uncommon surname in its own right. Is it possible that it’s a typographical error? Does ‘traitor’ work in context? Platystemon has a new favorite as of 02:53 on May 29, 2021 |
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Oh they’re space aliens. I tend to agree with the milk supervisor that the author made them up on the spot and they’re supposed to be mysterious. 
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May 29, 2021 02:44
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Platystemon posted:Oh they’re space aliens. Yeah when dictionary searches and BingTM give you nothing, you do some corpus searches and if the only hit is the text you're reading, it's a decent bet that the author made the words up. It's one of the things I really loving hate about fantasy writers.
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May 29, 2021 02:48
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Making up your own words is fine in my opinion, as long as you provide enough context! If after an entire book the reader doesn't understand, then the author has failed.
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May 29, 2021 03:00
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https://archive.org/details/cataloguedesliv05vallgoog This is the only text I can find Golarice in. Rendered as Fingolaricé 3D Megadoodoo posted:Yeah when dictionary searches and BingTM give you nothing, you do some corpus searches and if the only hit is the text you're reading, it's a decent bet that the author made the words up. It's one of the things I really loving hate about fantasy writers. My dude have you read Gene Wolfe? Gaius Marius has a new favorite as of 03:08 on May 29, 2021 |
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May 29, 2021 03:00
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Carthag Tuek posted:also i guess chivalry was a thing Not really. Chivalry was some rules for combat to make sure knights were mostly killing peasants instead of each other, and some rules to say "for the love of God, stop robbing and raping every person you see." Armies at the time would try to raid loot as much as possible and besiege helpless cities, but fighting other armies was a waste of blood and money. Crécy and Agincourt started the same way - a French army finally caught up with an English army that had been raiding their towns and farms, and tried to kill them. It's a couple hundred years later, but I loved Hey Guns' description of a 17th-century army: "Like a Gathering of the Juggalos, but drunker and less heavily armed."
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May 29, 2021 03:06
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The Juggalos are committed antifa these days, they are very well organized
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May 29, 2021 03:15
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A fun historical regional sports fact. In 1916 WW1 was still raging. And even though we are very far away, Australia still sucks the dick of the British Empire, so we were well involved. Moreso back then. But Melbournians couldn't let a little thing like a world war stop what was important, i.e. the footy season. But due to rationing, austerity, and the general lack of money, and able bodied young men etc. instead of fielding a full league, in 1916 only 4 teams competed in the VFL, (the Victorian Football League), the state and the countries finest football competition. Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond and Fitzroy. They still ran a full 12 round season, the teams just played each other over and over again. Anyway, at the end of the season Fitzroy were last, earning them the wooden spoon. But because it is footy, there still needed to be a finals series. So all 4 teams made the finals. Which Fitzroy won. Making them both Premiers and Wooden Spooners in the same year. In a season where they finished the regular season winning 2 out of 12 games. Today the Fitzroy Football Club does not exist at the top level. They merged with Brisbane in 1996.
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May 29, 2021 03:20
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Gaius Marius posted:My dude have you read Gene Wolfe? No.
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May 29, 2021 03:21
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He's pretty good. And he just uses archaic and foreign words in his fantasy instead of nonsense words. It works out really well
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May 29, 2021 03:24
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Chamale posted:Not really. Chivalry was some rules for combat to make sure knights were mostly killing peasants instead of each other, and some rules to say "for the love of God, stop robbing and raping every person you see." Armies at the time would try to raid loot as much as possible and besiege helpless cities, but fighting other armies was a waste of blood and money. Crécy and Agincourt started the same way - a French army finally caught up with an English army that had been raiding their towns and farms, and tried to kill them. yea but bushido was totally real so chivalry was also totally real. makes sense, historically
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you might know him as Øjvind Ølv
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