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Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense




This was interesting but made some of these people sound very pedantic. Like climbing one of the worlds tallest mountains means nothing if you didn’t touch the absolute apex. It seems really irresponsible to discredit almost all climbs because they didn’t do some batshit crazy thing to get that last couple meters. Get ready for even more dumb deaths.

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simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


"Your pollution is harming the town residents"
*$20m later*
"What town? What residents?"

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210511-how-coal-pollution-dismantled-a-town

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/AngelicaOung/status/1393447303894032386

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Lord Zedd-Repulsa posted:

WSJ right now but I see NYT and WaPo walls relatively often when dealing with long reads.

For the New York Times, set your browser to disallow JavaScript on that site. Hey presto!

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

It's a 30+ year old genre isn't it? I would be surprised if a significant portion of its listeners weren't old men sitting in big chairs with tumblers of brandy (wearing black t-shirts)
Sigurd Wongraven of Satyricon is a middle-aged bourgeoise socialite with his own brand of wine etc now

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/jeffbercovici/status/1393928948686360576

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/AlexBartik/status/1394131641866522626

Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




I just read this one about everyone's favorite mellow PBS painter and the people that now control his empire, and I have come to one conclusion: Bob Ross was by no means perfect (there's a lot of stuff here that I hadn't seen in previous articles about him), but gently caress the Kowalskis.

Sex, Deceit, and Scandal: The Ugly War Over Bob Ross’ Ghost

It also answers the question of whatever became of Bob's son Steve.

Male Tiers
Dec 27, 2012

Why don't you just lay down your weapons now?
Very convincing and detailed article on why Covid-19 more likely originated from a lab escape than animal transmission. https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the...ApA5TjKmtixXn9k

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Male Tears posted:

Very convincing and detailed article on why Covid-19 more likely originated from a lab escape than animal transmission. https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the...ApA5TjKmtixXn9k

Bulletin of Atomic Scientists is a decent publication, but this is not a great article. It criticizes labelling the idea of lab origin as a conspiracy, which is exactly what it is, then claims scientists are in a conspiracy to hide the true origin, to protect their lucrative work. It says that evolution of more than single amino acids is unlikely, which is false. It claims that since sequences in the virus have not been documented before, they're novel constructs resulting from secret research rather than indications of how few viruses we're studied. My virology and molecular evolution is rusty, but this is just what I found.

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

nonathlon posted:

Bulletin of Atomic Scientists is a decent publication, but this is not a great article. It criticizes labelling the idea of lab origin as a conspiracy, which is exactly what it is, then claims scientists are in a conspiracy to hide the true origin, to protect their lucrative work. It says that evolution of more than single amino acids is unlikely, which is false. It claims that since sequences in the virus have not been documented before, they're novel constructs resulting from secret research rather than indications of how few viruses we're studied. My virology and molecular evolution is rusty, but this is just what I found.


I think the article that came out in January was a much better-written version of the BAS article.

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang

nonathlon posted:

Bulletin of Atomic Scientists is a decent publication, but this is not a great article. It criticizes labelling the idea of lab origin as a conspiracy, which is exactly what it is, then claims scientists are in a conspiracy to hide the true origin, to protect their lucrative work. It says that evolution of more than single amino acids is unlikely, which is false. It claims that since sequences in the virus have not been documented before, they're novel constructs resulting from secret research rather than indications of how few viruses we're studied. My virology and molecular evolution is rusty, but this is just what I found.

I can't question your virology claims but the "conspiracy" claim is simple. Many, many bad things have been created systemically that resemble conspiracies but don't require anyone to actually conspire, because the disparate group of people involved have material interests that coincide with the bad thing happening. This is not conspiracy.

Unless you consider to be a conspiracy, for example, the continued existence of an inefficient but extremely profitable privatized healthcare system in America that majorities of every demographic, left and right, do not prefer. Or the way that social media has cooked boomer brains in its particular way. Those aren't the design of some cabal but the unwitting result of systems that reward certain things.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1394266722325118978?s=21

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Deep Glove Bruno posted:

I can't question your virology claims but the "conspiracy" claim is simple. Many, many bad things have been created systemically that resemble conspiracies but don't require anyone to actually conspire, because the disparate group of people involved have material interests that coincide with the bad thing happening. This is not conspiracy.

No, I'm with you. Chomsky made this point a long time ago - the alignment of media with the rich and powerful doesn't require cooperation and doesn't have to be a conspiracy if that just the way things work.

But in the article, the author says that people are trying to label the lab origin story as a conspiracy, in order to discredit it. To my eye, it's a stretch to describe the lab origin story as anything else, whether it's true or not. A lab conducted secret research, released a virus and now the powers that be and experts across the world are hushing that up. For it to work, it requires secrecy and cooperation. And it's frankly ludicrous to expect just about every virologist and molecular evolutionist in every lab or university anywhere to sit on their hands and tow the party line. Academics are disorganised, petty and indicative. The idea that they'd all globally and independently decide "it's in my best interest not to say anything about this" is a stretch, even in the conspiracy community.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I think the article said the gain of function research was publicly known due to grants?

Male Tiers
Dec 27, 2012

Why don't you just lay down your weapons now?

nonathlon posted:

No, I'm with you. Chomsky made this point a long time ago - the alignment of media with the rich and powerful doesn't require cooperation and doesn't have to be a conspiracy if that just the way things work.

But in the article, the author says that people are trying to label the lab origin story as a conspiracy, in order to discredit it. To my eye, it's a stretch to describe the lab origin story as anything else, whether it's true or not. A lab conducted secret research, released a virus and now the powers that be and experts across the world are hushing that up. For it to work, it requires secrecy and cooperation. And it's frankly ludicrous to expect just about every virologist and molecular evolutionist in every lab or university anywhere to sit on their hands and tow the party line. Academics are disorganised, petty and indicative. The idea that they'd all globally and independently decide "it's in my best interest not to say anything about this" is a stretch, even in the conspiracy community.

Did you read the article? The author wasn't suggesting it was intentionally released. The lab was publicly known to be conducting gain-of-function research on coronaviruses using significantly less stringent safety standards than recommended. There was nothing secret about it.

bowser
Apr 7, 2007

Are there any good longform articles on the 2001 Nepanese Royal Massacre and its aftermath? Seems like a fascinating event and a punctuation mark in Nepalese history but most of the writing I've come across is pretty shallow.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...
So, that article about the supposed lab origin of SARS-COVID? Massive problems, starting with the author who has had "interesting" ideas before:

https://twitter.com/MoNscience/status/1396240581651742724

(To give a quick summary - there's no evidence in favour of it being a lab construct or accidental escape and some evidence against. Nothing conclusive but ..)

On a lighter note, here's an article on a seemingly impossible magic trick and the story behind it: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/23/style/berglas-effect-card-trick.html?smid=url-share There's a few pieces about it on the web, including a 75 page manuscript that supposedly details how it is done

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


nonathlon posted:

On a lighter note, here's an article on a seemingly impossible magic trick and the story behind it: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/23/style/berglas-effect-card-trick.html?smid=url-share There's a few pieces about it on the web, including a 75 page manuscript that supposedly details how it is done

I read that NYT story the other day and would appreciate a link to the 75-page manuscript, which I submit is also appropriate for this thread as an extremely, extremely longform article

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Porfiriato posted:

I read that NYT story the other day and would appreciate a link to the 75-page manuscript, which I submit is also appropriate for this thread as an extremely, extremely longform article

This thread refers to it: https://www.metafilter.com/191585/Time-began-to-slow-down with the attribution:

quote:

In 2011, Richard Kaufman wrote a book called The Berglas Effects with the participation of Berglas himself in which his version of ACAAN is explained at length. ... There are 75 pages devoted to [Berglas's version].

with a summary from someone who's read it. It's apparently available via :filez: as well

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


nonathlon posted:

This thread refers to it: https://www.metafilter.com/191585/Time-began-to-slow-down with the attribution:
with a summary from someone who's read it. It's apparently available via :filez: as well

Thanks, it was pretty easy to find via google with that info. It's very interesting that someone (apparently an amateur magician) in the Metafilter thread mentions that understanding psychology and that people tend to guess the same things makes tricks like that a lot easier.

The NYT guy, when prompted by Berglas to pick any card any suit, chose the 7 of diamonds. The author of the book, in his introduction to the trick, mentions that the first time Berglas performed it for him, asked him to pick any card any suit...and he chose the 7 of diamonds.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...
Crazy, isn't it? I was crazy for magic when I was a kid and one of the key things I learnt was predictable people were and how easy it was to nudge them into particular decisions.

Mind, the improvisational aspect of the trick are amazing too. The magician is ready for nearly everything could spend a lot of time & effort maneuvering the trick together.

I Miss Snausages
Mar 8, 2005
Volvorific!

Porfiriato posted:

Thanks, it was pretty easy to find via google with that info. It's very interesting that someone (apparently an amateur magician) in the Metafilter thread mentions that understanding psychology and that people tend to guess the same things makes tricks like that a lot easier.

The NYT guy, when prompted by Berglas to pick any card any suit, chose the 7 of diamonds. The author of the book, in his introduction to the trick, mentions that the first time Berglas performed it for him, asked him to pick any card any suit...and he chose the 7 of diamonds.

When I was at a magic show in Vegas a few years ago, I got asked for a card and number. I said Three of Clubs and card number two. The magician shook his finger at me and said naughty-naughty, made a joke and went to another person. I think that statistically most people choose a number in the 30s and 40s, and above the number 6.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Toupee Groupie posted:

When I was at a magic show in Vegas a few years ago, I got asked for a card and number. I said Three of Clubs and card number two. The magician shook his finger at me and said naughty-naughty, made a joke and went to another person. I think that statistically most people choose a number in the 30s and 40s, and above the number 6.

Three of Clubs is penn and teller's signature card for showing a trick was forced, so I can get why that particular one he wouldn't like you to pick.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/1397677890003771396

I Miss Snausages
Mar 8, 2005
Volvorific!

Tunicate posted:

Three of Clubs is penn and teller's signature card for showing a trick was forced, so I can get why that particular one he wouldn't like you to pick.

I did not know that about Penn and Teller. I just never had heard someone ask for such a low card or numbers, so I thought I would try it.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


(PDF)NTSB report on investigation of the Florida pedestrian bridge that collapsed. Do not miss the section on a back-of-the-envelope calculation the architects should have made that is displayed against the back of an envelope.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...
A discussion about QAnon lead me to this very interesting and very readable academic paper "Organised Psuedolegal Commercial Arguments as Magic and Ceremony", in which the author tries to make sense of the various arguments mounted by sovereign citizens, Freeman on the land, and other parties engaging in 'otherlaw':

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321936848_Organized_Pseudolegal_Commercial_Arguments_OPCA_as_Magic_and_Ceremony

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


If we're doing papers, I recently found a very nice philosophy paper on why scientists commit fraud. If it were written for a lay audience it would go into a little more detail about how scientific funding works, but I don't think that's really essential to understanding the main message.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Arsenic Lupin posted:

(PDF)NTSB report on investigation of the Florida pedestrian bridge that collapsed. Do not miss the section on a back-of-the-envelope calculation the architects should have made that is displayed against the back of an envelope.

This is an absolutely infuriating read.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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https://twitter.com/redrawnoxen/status/1399415984495251456

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

I always liked Tim.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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The Untold Story of Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard’s Secret Pact With Nazi Propagandist Leni Riefenstahl

Flossie
Nov 8, 2008

nonathlon posted:

A discussion about QAnon lead me to this very interesting and very readable academic paper "Organised Psuedolegal Commercial Arguments as Magic and Ceremony", in which the author tries to make sense of the various arguments mounted by sovereign citizens, Freeman on the land, and other parties engaging in 'otherlaw':

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321936848_Organized_Pseudolegal_Commercial_Arguments_OPCA_as_Magic_and_Ceremony

Fantastic read, really enjoyed it. Thanks for this.

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
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Muldoon

nonathlon posted:

A discussion about QAnon lead me to this very interesting and very readable academic paper "Organised Psuedolegal Commercial Arguments as Magic and Ceremony", in which the author tries to make sense of the various arguments mounted by sovereign citizens, Freeman on the land, and other parties engaging in 'otherlaw':

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321936848_Organized_Pseudolegal_Commercial_Arguments_OPCA_as_Magic_and_Ceremony

This looks like it draws heavily on Meads v Meads (https://freemandelusion.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/meads-v-meads.pdf), which is a truly entertaining legal decision.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

lifg posted:

This looks like it draws heavily on Meads v Meads (https://freemandelusion.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/meads-v-meads.pdf), which is a truly entertaining legal decision.

Wow. 188 pages ... interesting though. It appears that the judge involved doesn't believe the plaintiff is sincere, which is a point picked up in the other article: there may be a significant number of people practicing psuedolaw, who simply don't believe it, but find it a useful tactic.

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
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Muldoon

nonathlon posted:

Wow. 188 pages ... interesting though. It appears that the judge involved doesn't believe the plaintiff is sincere, which is a point picked up in the other article: there may be a significant number of people practicing psuedolaw, who simply don't believe it, but find it a useful tactic.

It’s long but better written than some books I’ve read. And it features sentences like, “However, why anyone would believe that American commercial legislation would apply in Canada is baffling.”

Male Tiers
Dec 27, 2012

Why don't you just lay down your weapons now?
Interesting article in the NY Times today about how Amazon's automated HR processes are churning through warehouse workers at an astonishing rate. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/06/15/us/amazon-workers.html

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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How Slavery Inspired Modern Business Management

ultrafilter has a new favorite as of 19:17 on Jun 19, 2021

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Aug 23, 2007

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https://twitter.com/thedalstonyears/status/1406166205468221440

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