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Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Ohh, nice!

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Doctor Zaius
Jul 30, 2010

I say.

quote:

During its design process, FIGG had available model results with nodal region demands that exceeded those acting on the bridge at the time of collapse, but neglected to use them

This sounds pretty damning.

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004


jousting aint what it used to be

waffle iron
Jan 16, 2004

SpaceCadetBob posted:

Is the NTSB masters of passive voice or something?

Id probably have gone with “the negligence of the EOR is tantamount to premeditated murder and should be punished accordingly”

Speaking of. Did FIGG or the EOR face any actual consequences?

The law says that NTSB reports of cause are inadmissible in court. It's a way to make sure that there is no reason for someone in the agency to put their thumb on the scale to get a specific outcome in court.

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


Blyat!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnsc8QjREO0

nomad2020
Jan 30, 2007

Had a hard time picking which thread to put this in, but it meshes well with all of the dam collapse videos I've been watching so this one gets it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psi62O-NHRQ

Followup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdrNAQeGLNM

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Jet Jaguar posted:

Design brief must have been, "What if we made the front of the bus as dangerous to pedestrians as possible without putting actual spikes on the vehicle?"


They don't let you do that no more. by Phanatic, on Flickr

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1398855606291812352

Well that ain't good

"Numerous people trapped inside burning oil refinery in West Virginia

#Newell l #WV

Fire and EMS personnel are responding to several callers who are trapped inside Ergon Oil Refinery. Witnesses report large ongoing explosions."

Video mirror here in case the tweet is deleted.

Apparently that's not the first time that refinery has been on fire this year.

20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017
drat that totally ruins the whole fun of being at an oil refinery on saturday night

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


nomad2020 posted:

Had a hard time picking which thread to put this in, but it meshes well with all of the dam collapse videos I've been watching so this one gets it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psi62O-NHRQ

Followup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdrNAQeGLNM

This is like cookie clicker for geomorphologists thank you

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
thhe fact this dude was not stranded in a super horrorshow scenario is not totally surprising to me. because if he died it would have not been uploaded. But still, jfc

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



nomad2020 posted:

Had a hard time picking which thread to put this in, but it meshes well with all of the dam collapse videos I've been watching so this one gets it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psi62O-NHRQ

Followup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdrNAQeGLNM

This is loving radical.

MatteusTheCorrupt
Nov 1, 2010

waffle iron posted:

The law says that NTSB reports of cause are inadmissible in court. It's a way to make sure that there is no reason for someone in the agency to put their thumb on the scale to get a specific outcome in court.

That and to encourage people to speak about things they or others might have done wrong, by ensuring that their statements won't lead to criminal charges.

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


NTSB: we found the issue to be that the brisge was designed intentionally wrong, as a funny joke, in order to amuse some members of the design team who quoted saying it was “hilarious”.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Certain Poly Bridge players are more qualified than the clowns at Figg.

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


waffle iron posted:

The law says that NTSB reports of cause are inadmissible in court. It's a way to make sure that there is no reason for someone in the agency to put their thumb on the scale to get a specific outcome in court.

So when there is a court case do they look at the report then go and look at the same things the report looked and make a new report that just repeats it?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Flannelette posted:

So when there is a court case do they look at the report then go and look at the same things the report looked and make a new report that just repeats it?

It’s complicated.

quote:

In a civil trial, the admissibility of these NTSB reports under Rule 803 (8)(C) is specifically circumscribed by the federal “exclusionary rule,” 49 U.S.C.A. § 1554 (b), which provides that “no part of a report of the Board, related to an accident or investigation of an accident, may be admitted into evidence or used in a civil action for damages resulting from a matter mentioned in the report.” See Andrew J. Harakas, Litigating the Aviation Case, From Pre-Trial to Closing Argument 390–96 (American Bar Association, 3d ed. 2008). The case law reflects a split in precedent with many courts holding that the exclusionary rule prohibits admission only of NTSB opinions and conclusions, while allowing admission of factual findings.

That’s for federal court, states would have to have their own exclusionary rules, but almost all aviation incidents would be “removable” to federal court anyway (e.g. because the airline you’re suing is based in Delaware and you’re not). So some circuits allow parts of NTSB reports. Others allow nothing. Theoretically SCOTUS should sort this out at some point.

If someone is quoted in the report as saying something interesting, they would be subpoenaed and forced to testify unless they themselves are potentially at fault in the incident and can plead the fifth. Subpoena the investigators, too.

It’s like kids learn in school these days. You can’t cite Wikipedia, but you can go to Wikipedia’s sources and cite those.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Memento posted:

https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1398855606291812352

Well that ain't good

"Numerous people trapped inside burning oil refinery in West Virginia

#Newell l #WV

Fire and EMS personnel are responding to several callers who are trapped inside Ergon Oil Refinery. Witnesses report large ongoing explosions."

Video mirror here in case the tweet is deleted.

Apparently that's not the first time that refinery has been on fire this year.

Welp, all those people hoarding gas in plastic bags are laughing at us now as the price spikes due to a 15 minute interruption in supply.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*




Holy loving poo poo, is that a real car? I remember as a kid reading Spirou & Fantasio comic books and I swear to god they had this specific thing in one of them, and I was obsessed with wanting that car one day.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_t62W_0fs4

This is almost like a cartoon in how much bad poo poo gets avoided.

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010





Thank god it took out a car and not a cyclist or motorbike jeeze

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

`Nemesis posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Catastroph...utm_name=iossmf


Passenger ferry on fire off the coast of indonesia, video is from someone in the water, life rafts out, people in the water, also jumping off the deck into the water.

All 195 on board were rescued, so that's good.


https://www.chron.com/news/article/Indonesia-ferry-catches-fire-at-sea-no-casualties-16212124.php

That is kind of amazing. If that many people go into the water, almost always someone will drown. I guess the local fishing boats were very close.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


https://i.imgur.com/1Fjpkj1.mp4

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


chitoryu12 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_t62W_0fs4

This is almost like a cartoon in how much bad poo poo gets avoided.

Is this guy narcoleptic or epileptic or something? Driver cams are relatively rare so I’m wondering if he’s anticipated this exact thing and instead of not driving at all he set up a cam to avoid liability somehow

dobbymoodge
Mar 8, 2005

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

Is this guy narcoleptic or epileptic or something? Driver cams are relatively rare so I’m wondering if he’s anticipated this exact thing and instead of not driving at all he set up a cam to avoid liability somehow

Previously unknown medical condition: https://youtu.be/lssmh4GH188

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

https://va.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_qogerifIoh1vhygcq.mp4

Absolutely safe :colbert:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

dobbymoodge posted:

Previously unknown medical condition: https://youtu.be/lssmh4GH188

quote:

My insurance company found a way to get out of paying any claims on the car, so I paid out of pocket for the tools and supplies and did it myself. My health insurance also paid very little for my medical expenses.

Oof.

TontoCorazon
Aug 18, 2007


dobbymoodge posted:

Previously unknown medical condition: https://youtu.be/lssmh4GH188

Is there any OSHA regulations for looking like your perpetually stuck in the 70s

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

nomad2020 posted:

Had a hard time picking which thread to put this in, but it meshes well with all of the dam collapse videos I've been watching so this one gets it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psi62O-NHRQ

Followup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdrNAQeGLNM

I hope that river doesn’t flood the ocean too badly.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Kibayasu posted:

I hope that river doesn’t flood the ocean too badly.

If the sea rises enough then it might submerge the river :ohdear:

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Capitalism is OSHA as gently caress :smith:

Vakal
May 11, 2008

Don't pump nozzles have a break-away design for just this occasion?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

Holy loving poo poo, is that a real car?

It was a concept car, yeah. The pointy bits were actually radomes for collision avoidance. But they'd still have killed the poo poo out of pedestrians.

https://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z4873/cadillac-cyclone-xp-74-concept.aspx

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Vakal posted:

Don't pump nozzles have a break-away design for just this occasion?

Normally, yes. That's the metal swivel that sits up top of where the hose goes into the pump.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Vakal posted:

Don't pump nozzles have a break-away design for just this occasion?

Those cost extra, surely no one is stupid enough to drive off with the nozzle still in their car. We'll just take the regular hoses.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Cross post from the Cursed Thread.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

It’s got red stability, it’s fine as long as you don’t extend it one more block.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

darkwasthenight posted:

Cross post from the Cursed Thread.

Oh gently caress, that makes me so incredibly uncomfortable.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I assume those are cantilevered beams at the bottom of the railing. What’s holding the facade on the bottom is a bigger concern to me than whether the balcony is gonna fall off.

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zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Cojawfee posted:

Those cost extra, surely no one is stupid enough to drive off with the nozzle still in their car. We'll just take the regular hoses.
I don't think you can not get them on an original installation. Instead its usually like someone drove away once and the mechanic comes out without a replacement and just pipes it back straight in because what are the chances it happens twice on the same pump?

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