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It's basically just asking if there's much difference between someone who is openly denying reality in bad faith vs someone who is openly denying reality in good faith. I got my first dose and my arm was only sore for half a day. I feel robbed, where's my full vaccine experience?
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Argas posted:It's basically just asking if there's much difference between someone who is openly denying reality in bad faith vs someone who is openly denying reality in good faith. Oh, you have to take a nap first so your body can do a system update and get the latest firmware.
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May 27, 2021 17:57
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Murgos posted:I should have guessed that the details of the conspiracy would be even more absurd than I could imagine.
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May 27, 2021 18:23
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The real Manchurian candidate is wooly Willy
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May 27, 2021 19:39
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Ambitious Spider posted:The real Manchurian candidate is wooly Willy That's just Ted Cruz's lovely beard
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May 27, 2021 19:49
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Argas posted:It's basically just asking if there's much difference between someone who is openly denying reality in bad faith vs someone who is openly denying reality in good faith. It's the second dose which you can feel, apparently.
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May 27, 2021 23:16
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A while ago people were freaking about about "shedding" viral spike protein after the vaccination, as in they learnt the word "shed" for the first time after people who were worried that SARS-CoV-2 is dangerous were using the word properly.
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May 27, 2021 23:43
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exmachina posted:It's the second dose which you can feel, apparently. The second dose did knock me out for about a day but it was less a fever type sickness and more physical exhaustion and some kind of mild total pain response. Went away the night of the next day after the vaccine. Some coworkers of mine had it better some had it worse.
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May 28, 2021 13:43
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Guavanaut posted:You can do some cool things like make a microscopic worm curl up with a magnet but that's about where science is at. The more developed sibling-science of optogenetics got big in the news recently as a gene therapy that restored some limited sight to a blind person using gene therapy, but phrases like "the magnetogenetic control of neuronal activity" are catnip to tinfoil hatters so the vaccine is simultaneously an advanced gene therapy that places magnetogenetic proteins in your neurons so that you can be controlled at will by the Zionist 5G towers and also a ferrofluid nanoparticle that you can test for with a fridge magnet, because of a secretive phenomenon known as the 'loving idiot sphere'. Eh I mean we can do cool stuff with magnetism like making frogs hover, MRI machines, or the opposite of MRI which is magnetically stimulating nerves. Sci Fi uses those techniques as a basis for speculative brain-computer-interfaces. So in the context of all the other Q ideas the nanoparticles aren't much more insane than adrenochrome lizards or quantum finance
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May 28, 2021 23:14
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Lord Stimperor posted:Eh I mean we can do cool stuff with magnetism like making frogs hover, MRI machines, or the opposite of MRI which is magnetically stimulating nerves. Sci Fi uses those techniques as a basis for speculative brain-computer-interfaces. So in the context of all the other Q ideas the nanoparticles aren't much more insane than adrenochrome lizards or quantum finance Yeah, on the crazy scale magnetic nanoparticles are probably more believable than a drug made from the blood of terrified children. Or other fluids.
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May 28, 2021 23:57
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It's the specific overlap of cutting edge "secret magnetogenetics is decades ahead of where They want you to think it is, and the mRNA vaccine is a gene therapy that will make your neurons magnetogenetic to be controlled by the electromagnetic fields from 5G" and the kitchen science "and you can prove this with a fridge magnet" that makes it Q crazy, but yes, not much different to "they're making an easily synthesized clotting agent out of tunnels full of trafficked children for evil reasons" in terms of wrongness.
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May 29, 2021 00:08
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So, a conspiracy that requires every bank teller in the world to be in on it? Like, don't these people know any bank workers? This is drifting, no hurtling, in the direction of what Robert Anton Wilson called a strange loop - a conspiracy so vast and pervasive that anything could be true. Like the old style wingnut ideas that every dentist was in cahoots, or that all women were witches.
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May 29, 2021 08:32
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ron watkin' proof that adrenochrome is real was because some chinese lab published some study of adrenal corticosteroids corticosteroids are not adrenaline, and is not oxidized adrenaline aka "adrenochrome". corticosteroids are what they gave donald trump when he got sicc from covid yet another reminder that q people are stupid as poo poo
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May 29, 2021 09:27
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nonathlon posted:So, a conspiracy that requires every bank teller in the world to be in on it? Like, don't these people know any bank workers? I think the banks have weaponized Q idiocy to make some money or it's a truly magnificent troll intended to saddle these idiots with a lifetime of debt. Apparently it evolved from this known scam : https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/...pace-alien.html
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nonathlon posted:So, a conspiracy that requires every (((bank teller)) in the world to be in on it? Like, don't these people know any (((bank workers)))? I hth op
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May 29, 2021 12:24
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Operation Warp Speed was a Trump initiative to fund multiple COVID vaccines at a high enough rate to accelerate their test and certification process to bring at least one to market as fast as possible. But it’s a democrat conspiracy to control people through invisible super secret technology.
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May 29, 2021 12:57
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Morningwoodpecker posted:I think the banks have weaponized Q idiocy to make some money or it's a truly magnificent troll intended to saddle these idiots with a lifetime of debt. That link has lead in turn to this "Organised Psuedolegal Commercial Arguments as Magic and Ceremony", an academic paper on the arguements mounted by various sovereign citizens, Freeman on the land, etc. Real interesting: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321936848_Organized_Pseudolegal_Commercial_Arguments_OPCA_as_Magic_and_Ceremony
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May 29, 2021 13:57
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If trump had won in 2020, would he have encouraged people to get vaccinated with the vaccines that he ordered, or would he have told people covid wasn’t real and that the vaccine was a conspiracy?
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May 29, 2021 15:54
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Probably both E: possibly in the same sentence
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May 29, 2021 15:58
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I dont think he ever would have brought up covid again, tbh.
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May 29, 2021 16:02
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Martian posted:Probably both Indeed. He would have told a long, rambling anecdote of big, strong, manly men who had never cried in their lives coming up to him with tears in their eyes, saying, "Sir, thank you for the vaccine," and then in the very next breath denying the virus existed at all or if it did was a liberal hoax and no worse than the common cold.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:If trump had won in 2020, would he have encouraged people to get vaccinated with the vaccines that he ordered, or would he have told people covid wasn’t real and that the vaccine was a conspiracy? He would have called them the greatest, most incredible and quickly developed vaccines in all of history where many people are saying they've never seen anything like it before and the fake news media won't report it. Then he probably was about 50/50 to claim he personally invented the vaccine and deny ever calling it a hoax.
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May 29, 2021 17:53
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BiggerBoat posted:He would have called them the greatest, most incredible and quickly developed vaccines in all of history where many people are saying they've never seen anything like it before and the fake news media won't report it. Then he probably was about 50/50 to claim he personally invented the vaccine and deny ever calling it a hoax. This is almost right, but so wrong, because in the next sentence he would've said it was a Chinese bioweapon, and then gone on to say it was a hoax. And then he would've come up with some breathtakingly stupid non-sequitur that none of us could imagine. And probably written an executive order requiring all states to stop testing for the virus, and then declared the virus fixed (not cured).
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I am honestly surprised he didn't just have vials of vitamin b-12 shipped across the country and just called it a vaccine.
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Also he would have made at least one Executive Order banning "Vaccine passports" that would be vague and toothless
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May 29, 2021 20:49
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Or simply made a tweet decreeing that he had banned them but never having drafted any sort of actual EO, comprehensible or otherwise.
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May 30, 2021 00:29
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There's got to be some good news against QAnon this month... I'm gonna need some evidence that the FBI et al is doing their damndest to bring the 1/6ers to justice and contain the rest.
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May 30, 2021 00:34
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nonathlon posted:That link has lead in turn to this "Organised Psuedolegal Commercial Arguments as Magic and Ceremony", an academic paper on the arguements mounted by various sovereign citizens, Freeman on the land, etc. Real interesting: What an great read - thanks for this! I'll share this quote from that article because I think it does a nice job of describing the internet-age conspiracy theorist: Donald Netolitzky posted:Political scientist Michael Barkun argues conspiracy and politically extreme thoughts can be divided into two categories. Traditional conspiracy theory begins with an organizing theme, such as that the Catholic Church represents a secret menace, or that a secret society such as the Illuminati exert broad and concealed influence.
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May 30, 2021 01:43
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Lucasar posted:What an great read - thanks for this! I'll share this quote from that article because I think it does a nice job of describing the internet-age conspiracy theorist: I like that we've moved on from: quote:The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence quote:The absence of evidence is evidence of presence
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Yeah. We have a serious mental illness problem in this country, and on top of that, I believe with all my heart that the American populace, as a whole, and I mean when you look at the average from top to bottom, is more stupid today than at any time in previous American history. And more stupid than the average populace of a lot of other countries.
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May 30, 2021 06:26
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Grouchio posted:There's got to be some good news against QAnon this month... I like the way they keep us in the loop on that. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
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May 30, 2021 06:57
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When I heard the Republicans in the Senate blocked the investigation into the 1/6 attempted coup, I was thinking about how this actually plays into the Qanon conspiracy theorists pretty perfectly. "Antifa and BLM were behind the false flag attacks, and the liberal establishment GOP is in league with the Democrats and don't want that truth to be known to the public because it would show how corrupt they all are."
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MrMojok posted:Yeah. We have a serious mental illness problem in this country, and on top of that, I believe with all my heart that the American populace, as a whole, and I mean when you look at the average from top to bottom, is more stupid today than at any time in previous American history. And more stupid than the average populace of a lot of other countries. I'm not sure about more stupid than before, but I think less humble, less secure, more invested, and more visible.
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We are just as stupid as we always were, but there's far more misinformation getting pumped into people's brains. Getting educated makes you realize how much you don't know and how much complexity there is in the world; that results in being skeptical of simple solutions to complex problems laid out in some ten minute YouTube video. Uneducated people think Alex Jones can know more than scientists. pthighs fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 30, 2021 |
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May 30, 2021 18:16
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indiscriminately posted:I'm not sure about more stupid than before, but I think less humble, less secure, more invested, and more visible. Yeah I think there is a difference between knowledge and information that people largely don't respect. Knowledge is cultivated where as information is merely gathered or collected (or invented). Contemporary Americans have so much information due to high levels of basic literacy and the internet - but they aren't necessarily smarter because of that access. Just repeating "facts" you've encountered is so often tough to distinguish from knowing what you're talking about. It isn't that people are stupider; it's that they don't realize they aren't smarter.
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How scary would you compare Qanon now compared to the last year of Trump's term? (not 1/6 itself I mean the Trump admin in 2020)
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Violent mentally ill far right types with firearms have always and will always be dangerous. Qanon isn't doing that to them it just gives them an excuse currently.
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Grouchio posted:How scary would you compare Qanon now compared to the last year of Trump's term? (not 1/6 itself I mean the Trump admin in 2020) It seems to be transforming into a longer term 'grassroots' thing in local/state politics. From the outside (I'm Australian) it's pretty terrifying that they are apparently slowly but steadily taking over the Republican party despite having just launched a (clear) attack on your democracy (as opposed to the subtle tearing down McConnell style). I mean, hopefully it dooms the Republican party to a permanent opposition, but I have a lot of faith in how poo poo your democratic system is that they've got every chance of coming back into power with either Trump or some much scarier nutcase at the fore.
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Chadzok posted:It seems to be transforming into a longer term 'grassroots' thing in local/state politics. From the outside (I'm Australian) it's pretty terrifying that they are apparently slowly but steadily taking over the Republican party despite having just launched a (clear) attack on your democracy (as opposed to the subtle tearing down McConnell style). I mean, hopefully it dooms the Republican party to a permanent opposition, but I have a lot of faith in how poo poo your democratic system is that they've got every chance of coming back into power with either Trump or some much scarier nutcase at the fore. Every democracy in the Americas that based its constitution on the US constitution collapsed during the 20th century. You might say that’s because the US hosed with them, but the US is now weak enough that some foreign powers can gently caress with us. If regional firefights start involving armed militias here, I fully expect somebody out there to arm them and give them money—maybe even a nonstate actor like Peter Thiel or the Mercers. C21 is getting wild in the remnants of the imperial core.
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I don't pretend to know what's what anymore beyond the whole "this poo poo is certifiably crazy" stuff, but I'll tell you guys this much (and this is going out to the SA/CIA deep cover ops that Glen Beck uncovered WAY back in the day before we proved Obama was a Muslim): 13 years later after volunteering for Obama, knocking on doors and for all the posting I've done and protests I've attended since, to this day not one loving Soros Buck. Some loving bullshit you ask me. PM me for details on where to get my checks because I'm up against a few things at the moment and could use someone on the inside who knows what's up. I'm beginning to think that all this talk about a secretly funded BLM/Antifa coup and all the work I did rigging elections by voting 5 times and the fake rioting I did fueled by all that adrenochrome may not pay off. I'm losing faith, times are deperate and would appreciate someone pointing me towards the right path here.
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