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Castaign
Apr 4, 2011

And now I knew that while my body sat safe in the cheerful little church, he had been hunting my soul in the Court of the Dragon.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Doomposting? I was reminding people who recovered from covid that they should go and get a vaccine as well because the combo gives much higher protection.

Also you're a dumbass if you think the megalottery statistics are in any way relevant to the situation under discussion
Here's a study of 434,000 patients who previously tested positive to covid-19. 1,601 of them caught a second infection (after more than 90 days from the first) and 54 of the re-infected people died within 21 days.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/covid-19-reinfection-rate-around-0-4-epic-data-suggests.html

That'd give odds of reinfection at 1 in 270 and odds of reinfection + dying at 1 in 8000.

I was serious when I said that I wasn't accusing you of doomposting; I know you're not a doomer, and I really just wanted to mention "doomposting" and your user name in the same sentence. That fell flat I'm afraid.

My point with the lottery links wasn't to indicate parity between the odds of winning the lottery and the odds of dying from reinfection, but rather to note that frequently the juxtaposition of "link to how unlikely something is" with "link to example of that unlikely thing happening" seems to wrongly indicate that the latter casts doubt on the accuracy of the former. That obviously wasn't your intent with this, but that's how it looks at a casual glance.

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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Yeh I’m fully vaccinated now and oh my god after the Kent variant I’m going to spend the time being happy that able to go the supermarkets again, while worrying about my 17 year old and the Indian variant.

At least I know that as the only unvaccinated person in the house we won’t be bringing anything back to her.

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008
A woman (with a defect) started leaking cerebrospinal fluid after getting a nose swab for covid
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ninashapiro/2020/10/05/covid-19-nasal-swab-test-led-to-spinal-fluid-leak/

I'm probably being paranoid cause it's a rare defect but I've had a metallic/salty taste in the back of my throat since I got covid/got tested for it. Am I just being paranoid

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

The Fattest PI posted:

A woman (with a defect) started leaking cerebrospinal fluid after getting a nose swab for covid
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ninashapiro/2020/10/05/covid-19-nasal-swab-test-led-to-spinal-fluid-leak/

I'm probably being paranoid cause it's a rare defect but I've had a metallic/salty taste in the back of my throat since I got covid/got tested for it. Am I just being paranoid

The virus fucks with taste and metallic/salty tastes are common for when your sense of taste is hosed with. Hell, I’ve had the metallic taste when I’ve been an IV pinchusion for medic students and they slam saline too hard.

The Fattest PI
Mar 4, 2008
Okay thank you. I guess I'll follow up on it if it never goes away.

On sort of a side note, I was describing the taste to my girlfriend, and as a point of reference I mentioned that it was similar to when you whack your head real hard and get a weird taste in your mouth, or if something happens and you get a huge adrenaline dump into your system and you get the weird adrenaline taste in your mouth.
She had zero idea what I was talking about in either case.

Does anyone else get that orrr

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t
Has anyone else developed a temporary cough from the vaccine? I had Covid in February and then received my first shot in April and my second a few weeks ago (Moderna). For both shots I developed a fever and general mild flu like symptoms about 24 hours later which was expected. About 28 hours after each shot I took some tylenol, and both times after the medicine kicked in and broke the fever ~ 30 minutes after taking it, I developed a very covid like cough the lasted for about 12 hours and left me with a kind of sore, wheezy upper chest for the next day. After the first shot I thought it was odd, but that it could have been random, but the feel and duration and timing were identical after both shots. I have not seen anything mentioning that happening :shrug:.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



My weird side effect is I've been cured of my seasonal allergies. It's really weird, because I've had annoying seasonal allergies all year round, indoor and outdoor, every other year of my life. The spring allergies had even started to spin up when I got my shots in April but I've since stopped taking any meds and I just wake up in the morning every morning able to breathe easily through my nose. Which suggests that I'm not reacting to dog hair anymore either, come to think of it.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I heard about people with the dog hair thing as well.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

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learnincurve posted:

I heard about people with the dog hair thing as well.

People are growing dog hair after the vaccine? Troubling

Castaign
Apr 4, 2011

And now I knew that while my body sat safe in the cheerful little church, he had been hunting my soul in the Court of the Dragon.

poverty goat posted:

My weird side effect is I've been cured of my seasonal allergies. It's really weird, because I've had annoying seasonal allergies all year round, indoor and outdoor, every other year of my life. The spring allergies had even started to spin up when I got my shots in April but I've since stopped taking any meds and I just wake up in the morning every morning able to breathe easily through my nose. Which suggests that I'm not reacting to dog hair anymore either, come to think of it.

Same. No seasonal allergies, and the pronounced skin reaction I always used to have in response to one of my dogs has largely disappeared. The small scratch I just got from playing with one of my kitties also didn't do the typical "swell up and turn bright red and itchy" thing that usually happens either.

10/10, would definitely vax again.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

poverty goat posted:

My weird side effect is I've been cured of my seasonal allergies. It's really weird, because I've had annoying seasonal allergies all year round, indoor and outdoor, every other year of my life. The spring allergies had even started to spin up when I got my shots in April but I've since stopped taking any meds and I just wake up in the morning every morning able to breathe easily through my nose. Which suggests that I'm not reacting to dog hair anymore either, come to think of it.

My brother-in-law's allergies disappeared for a day or two after his second shot, but I haven't really noticed any change in mine :(

LemonLimeSoda
Jan 23, 2020
I work at a casino and we went mask optional
The crowds and employees are about 70-75% unmasked
I feel a lot of anger when I'm at work now & I avoid people without masks on - even employees I know and get along with well
I'm having a very tough time being okay with the people who are maskless

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

poverty goat posted:

My weird side effect is I've been cured of my seasonal allergies.

How long has it been now?

What I've read has been mostly in the category "speculation by people with general knowledge about immune systems but nobody has studied this effect". The hypothesis was that the immune system is too busy wrestling the vaccine to bother with doing silly autoimmune things like allergies. I have no idea if this makes sense, it's just what I read somewhere. If that hypothesis holds, I guess it would be pretty short-term, a matter of weeks at most.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
I ate in my first restaurant since getting my 2nd shot in mid-April.

I was nevertheless :ohdear: the whole time.

I'm visiting my parents in Eastern Tennessee and I'm more worried about getting stabbed or punched or something if I wear a mask in public than I am about catching covid while fully vaccinated. Looking forward to getting back to Illinois.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Hippie Hedgehog posted:

How long has it been now?

What I've read has been mostly in the category "speculation by people with general knowledge about immune systems but nobody has studied this effect". The hypothesis was that the immune system is too busy wrestling the vaccine to bother with doing silly autoimmune things like allergies. I have no idea if this makes sense, it's just what I read somewhere. If that hypothesis holds, I guess it would be pretty short-term, a matter of weeks at most.

Since April. The next big test will be hay fever season at the end of the summer.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

LemonLimeSoda posted:

I work at a casino and we went mask optional
The crowds and employees are about 70-75% unmasked
I feel a lot of anger when I'm at work now & I avoid people without masks on - even employees I know and get along with well
I'm having a very tough time being okay with the people who are maskless

It is good and right to feel like this when this is still present in society and people are acting like it is not. Entitlement at this level is bad all the way around, even if (and hopefully) the vaccines hold up 100%. You are absolutely fine to feel like this because they are making you uncomfortable.

What you have to do is find a way to deal with it that doesn't involve throat-punching all of them because that's illegal.

E: I suggest meditation. I've been meditating daily and while I am absolutely disgusted by anti-maskers/maskless folks, I can go play dodge the morons at walmart without seething.

Fluffy Bunnies fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 30, 2021

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

I'm vaccinated and don't give a poo poo if someone else does t want to wear a mask because there's no law against me wearing one, and I'm vaccinated.

It is not good and right to feel anxious and scared of other humans when you're already doing all you can to protect yourself. That's kind of the definition of life altering anxiety and a good reason to see a professional.

They're other people too, who have lives and thoughts and vaccinations (some).

Ghost Cactus
Dec 25, 2006

The Fattest PI posted:

Okay thank you. I guess I'll follow up on it if it never goes away.

On sort of a side note, I was describing the taste to my girlfriend, and as a point of reference I mentioned that it was similar to when you whack your head real hard and get a weird taste in your mouth, or if something happens and you get a huge adrenaline dump into your system and you get the weird adrenaline taste in your mouth.
She had zero idea what I was talking about in either case.

Does anyone else get that orrr

I get the adrenaline taste after something adrenaline-y happens too. Tastes bad.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

satanic splash-back posted:

It is not good and right to feel anxious and scared of other humans when you're already doing all you can to protect yourself.
It is, though, when a bunch of them are not vaccinated and go out unmasked anyway. Because suddenly it becomes more difficult/dangerous to live my normal(-ish) life, despite doing everything I was supposed to.

In my state, about 35% of residents are vaccinated. When I drive by the mall or Home Depot the last few weeks, I see about a quarter of people, at best, wearing masks. When I drove past a local mega-church that was letting out services last Sunday, I saw zero masks among the hundreds of people walking back to their cars.

So yes, despite being vaccinated and wearing a mask, I am still anxious and scared about the idea of going places, and I don't think it's irrational.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



The Fattest PI posted:

Okay thank you. I guess I'll follow up on it if it never goes away.

On sort of a side note, I was describing the taste to my girlfriend, and as a point of reference I mentioned that it was similar to when you whack your head real hard and get a weird taste in your mouth, or if something happens and you get a huge adrenaline dump into your system and you get the weird adrenaline taste in your mouth.
She had zero idea what I was talking about in either case.

Does anyone else get that orrr

If you're talking about the immediate effects of getting hit in head, especially in the face, I think I'd describe it as more like a combined taste/smell of intense ozone.

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

WhiteHowler posted:

It is, though, when a bunch of them are not vaccinated and go out unmasked anyway. Because suddenly it becomes more difficult/dangerous to live my normal(-ish) life, despite doing everything I was supposed to.

In my state, about 35% of residents are vaccinated. When I drive by the mall or Home Depot the last few weeks, I see about a quarter of people, at best, wearing masks. When I drove past a local mega-church that was letting out services last Sunday, I saw zero masks among the hundreds of people walking back to their cars.

So yes, despite being vaccinated and wearing a mask, I am still anxious and scared about the idea of going places, and I don't think it's irrational.

This doesn't make any sense and you're a being a typical misery-craving goon. You've done everything you can do safeguard yourself and others. Nothing you do or don't do will change anything for anyone. You are irrational for being anxious and scared.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

satanic splash-back posted:

I'm vaccinated and don't give a poo poo if someone else does t want to wear a mask because there's no law against me wearing one, and I'm vaccinated.

It is not good and right to feel anxious and scared of other humans when you're already doing all you can to protect yourself. That's kind of the definition of life altering anxiety and a good reason to see a professional.

They're other people too, who have lives and thoughts and vaccinations (some).

I'm not afraid of anyone, I just don't care to get sick. I'm fully vaccinated. There are breakthrough cases. I don't care to be one.

I sure as hell can dislike them for not giving enough of a gently caress to put on a mask when they aren't vaccinated or, especially around here, when they are vaccinated and they know we have such low vaccination numbers.

It is perfectly fine and good to be frustrated when people are cretinous selfish sorts. Vegas is not essential and we are still dealing with lower vaccination numbers than have been outlined prior to a month ago.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Also most of you have been shut up inside your houses for a year and it's going to take a while to feel normal around crowds again. I was only in lockdown for seven-ish months and it still took me a few weeks to adjust to being in crowded public spaces again even though I knew there was zero COVID in my country.

Castaign
Apr 4, 2011

And now I knew that while my body sat safe in the cheerful little church, he had been hunting my soul in the Court of the Dragon.

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

How long has it been now?

What I've read has been mostly in the category "speculation by people with general knowledge about immune systems but nobody has studied this effect". The hypothesis was that the immune system is too busy wrestling the vaccine to bother with doing silly autoimmune things like allergies. I have no idea if this makes sense, it's just what I read somewhere. If that hypothesis holds, I guess it would be pretty short-term, a matter of weeks at most.

Persistent since mid March for me. Hurray!

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
The Great Twist
Our county has been low on cases for awhile and I think our state is at 50% vaccinated, but when we took our daughter to the big playground for the first time in over a year, we were the only people wearing masks and it felt weird, like we'd emerged from a bunker into a different carefree world. I know being outside is less risky but it might be a bit until being maskless around people I don't know, even outside, feels normal again.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart

dwarf74 posted:

I ate in my first restaurant since getting my 2nd shot in mid-April.

I was nevertheless :ohdear: the whole time.

I'm visiting my parents in Eastern Tennessee and I'm more worried about getting stabbed or punched or something if I wear a mask in public than I am about catching covid while fully vaccinated. Looking forward to getting back to Illinois.

Just buy a bandana with a confederate flag to wear over top.

So they think you're one of them.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
i got the single dose on april 5th...the vibe in the real world is all bets are off..i haven't been in a single store that changed the mask on policy, same for public transportation..soo outside really and in spaces where you're with other (hopefully) vaccinated people but in a private/small setting.

the general whiplash of being super cautious for 13 months and no gradual shift back into forced normalcy is jarring as hell but..the shot works. i get tested for work and there's no way i wouldn't have caught it in the last month just existing like the before times in a small way...consistent negative tests are still reassuring though, not that i doubted science

e: i'm still not trying to go see a movie or goto a large event like a lot of my friends though..even though i'm sure it'd be fine, it just feels suspect as hell..that might take a minute for me

Mercury Hat
May 28, 2006

SharkTales!
Woo-oo!



The Fattest PI posted:

Okay thank you. I guess I'll follow up on it if it never goes away.

On sort of a side note, I was describing the taste to my girlfriend, and as a point of reference I mentioned that it was similar to when you whack your head real hard and get a weird taste in your mouth, or if something happens and you get a huge adrenaline dump into your system and you get the weird adrenaline taste in your mouth.
She had zero idea what I was talking about in either case.

Does anyone else get that orrr

Yeah no I get that too, like if someone suddenly pulls out in front of me while driving or something. It's like a mouthful of pennies.

It's weird though, it didn't used to happen to me until randomly -- as in, the incident wasn't any worse or more dangerous than any others I've had -- a few years ago.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Fully vaccinated you can walk round a crowded mall licking walls all day and have a higher chance of being in a car accident on the way home than you have of catching covid.

It’s looking like if you are fully vaccinated and have also had covid your chances of getting any of the current strains is zero.

That’s not to say covid agoraphobia isn’t real, just that people’s feelings although perfectly valid, are not science.

Computer Serf
May 14, 2005
Buglord

King Vidiot posted:

I don't know how likely this is, but my big fear now in the US is that we'll continue on like it's "over" for a while and then those of use who are vaccinated will have our vaccines lose their effectiveness in time for the un-vaccinated to incubate a vaccine-resistant and more deadly strain that will rip through the population and kill a ton of people. Even people who aren't "vulnerable". Like loving Thanos snapping his fingers.


https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/02/05/964447070/where-did-the-coronavirus-variants-come-from


npr posted:

This man had a severe autoimmune disease that required him to take drugs to suppress his immune system. So his body couldn’t fight off the coronavirus infection as well as a healthy person could. He would get better for a while, and then the virus would counterattack. He would fall sick again. Eventually, he ended up in the intensive care unit. He passed away five months after the initial diagnosis.

Throughout the man’s infection, Li and his colleagues ran an illuminating experiment. Every few weeks, the team extracted coronavirus from the man’s body and sequenced the virus’s genome.

Li couldn’t believe what they found. “I was shocked,” he says. “When I saw the virus sequences, I knew that we were dealing with something completely different and potentially very important.”

The sequences showed Li and his team that the virus was changing very quickly inside the man’s body. The virus wasn’t picking up just one or two mutations at a time. But rather, it acquired a whole cluster of more than 20 mutations. Scientists had never seen SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes the disease COVID-19, mutate so quickly during the whole pandemic.


https://www.phe.gov/emergency/events/COVID19/investigation-MCM/Bamlanivimab-etesevimab/Pages/default.aspx

cdc posted:

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has identified that the combined frequency of the P.1 variant (first identified in Brazil) and the B.1.351 variant (first identified in South Africa) now exceeds 10% in Arizona, California, Florida, Indiana, Oregon and Washington (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/variant-proportions.html). Results from in vitro assays that are used to assess the susceptibility of viral variants to particular monoclonal antibodies suggest that bamlanivimab and etesevimab administered together are not active against either the P.1 or B.1.351 variants. These assays use “pseudo-virus particles” that help determine likely susceptibility of the live virus.

REGEN-COV is an alternative monoclonal antibody therapy that is currently authorized for the same use as bamlanivimab and etesevimab administered together and, based on similar in vitro assay data currently available, REGEN-COV is likely to retain activity against the P.1 and B.1.351 variants. All treatment delivery sites can continue ordering REGEN-COV from the authorized distributer by following the existing ordering and reporting procedures.


:tif:

Blitter
Mar 16, 2011

Intellectual
AI Enthusiast

learnincurve posted:

Fully vaccinated you can walk round a crowded mall licking walls all day and have a higher chance of being in a car accident on the way home than you have of catching covid.

It’s looking like if you are fully vaccinated and have also had covid your chances of getting any of the current strains is zero.

That’s not to say covid agoraphobia isn’t real, just that people’s feelings although perfectly valid, are not science.

The vaccines are excellent in general but also, it's dumb to characterize the risk as zero if you consider the risk of getting infected or spreading disease to be important.
From this pre-print



As far as variant performance goes, as someone who has had AZ, I basically have no protection against infection for the SA variant and probably any variant with the E484K mutation. Luckily the dominant variant in my healthcare region is B.1.1.7 at least, so far.

CarlosTheDwarf
Jun 1, 2001
Up shit creek.

pro starcraft loser posted:

Is it safe to assume whatever manufacturing and logistic capability the US has for the vaccines will stay redlined throughout the summer to get as much out to other countries as we can?

Seems like in a month basically anyone who wants a vaccine here should be able to have had one.

The U.S. doesn't make vaccines. For profit companies like Pfizer do and yes they are manufacturing as many as they possibly can. I think moderna said they will make 3B doses in 2022.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

learnincurve posted:

Fully vaccinated you can walk round a crowded mall licking walls all day and have a higher chance of being in a car accident on the way home than you have of catching covid.

It’s looking like if you are fully vaccinated and have also had covid your chances of getting any of the current strains is zero.

That’s not to say covid agoraphobia isn’t real, just that people’s feelings although perfectly valid, are not science.

It's not mental illness to not want variants to continue to pop up.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

freebooter posted:

Also most of you have been shut up inside your houses for a year and it's going to take a while to feel normal around crowds again. I was only in lockdown for seven-ish months and it still took me a few weeks to adjust to being in crowded public spaces again even though I knew there was zero COVID in my country.

This is why I’m so glad I volunteered full time last summer doing ambulance stuff. I never had the chance to get all worried about being out and about. Now that I’m fully vaccinated and have had it ive been mostly doing without a mask and holy crap it’s been great. I still keep a mask in my pocket just in case but I rarely use it.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

It's not mental illness to not want variants to continue to pop up.

it's too late. if you don't let people spit into your mouth after getting the vaccine now you're mentally ill and anti-science

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Fluffy Bunnies posted:

It's not mental illness to not want variants to continue to pop up.

This is unobtanium now though and there's nothing any of us can do to change that, so you're probably not doing yourself any favors by dwelling on it

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Ugly In The Morning posted:

This is why I’m so glad I volunteered full time last summer doing ambulance stuff. I never had the chance to get all worried about being out and about. Now that I’m fully vaccinated and have had it ive been mostly doing without a mask and holy crap it’s been great. I still keep a mask in my pocket just in case but I rarely use it.

I think doing medical transport helped me get used to the whole thing, too. Being around some of the most vulnerable people to the virus in a series of small, enclosed spaces hammered home how cautious we had/have to be. Job's still got to be done, van's still got to be fueled up and cleaned, etc. Be safe, be patient.

The circumstances of that particular job made it pretty easy though. Go into nursing home and meet one person at the entrance, walk to nurse's station, talk to the one person there. Grab patient from bed, drive to dialysis center, meet one person at the entrance, drop patient off in chair, then do it all backwards four hours later. Except for on the floor of the dialysis centers, I don't think we had to be in a room with more than two other people for six months. Pickups from private residences were made easy by the fact these people hadn't left the house in months. They were happy to see us and happy to comply with health guidelines as long as you made it clear what had to happen.

Not all good, but not all bad now that I can look back on it. There are still things from the first couple months of our Covid year that piss me off, but it hasn't been as draining to me as I thought it would be then.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

learnincurve posted:

It’s looking like if you are fully vaccinated and have also had covid your chances of getting any of the current strains is zero.

This is incorrect. It took me 30 seconds of googling to find several instances where fully vaccinated, previously infected people were not only reinfected but also died.

quote:

On April 5, Bridge Michigan reported that 246 fully vaccinated people in Michigan were later infected with the coronavirus, including 11 hospitalized and three who died. A spokesperson from the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services (MDHHS) was quoted by Bridge Michigan a week later that the deaths have since undergone a more “detailed review,” and all three had histories of earlier infections before vaccination.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/04/27/vacc-a27.html

You seem to be equating "your chances are very very low" with "your chances are zero" which is pretty irresponsible


learnincurve posted:

That’s not to say covid agoraphobia isn’t real, just that people’s feelings although perfectly valid, are not science.

Your anti-doom posts are even more histrionic than the doomers, you're a fine one to pull out the ol' "facts don't care about your feelings" argument. :v: :v:



poverty goat posted:

This is unobtanium now though and there's nothing any of us can do to change that, so you're probably not doing yourself any favors by dwelling on it

This is also pretty irresponsible. Everyone can continue reducing their basic level of risk and the risk to their family and friends by continuing to take basic precautions, ignoring the danger "not dwelling on it" is a dumb choice. We're stuck with facemasks and social distancing for the foreseeable future, there's no "getting back to normal" because this is the 'new' normal.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

We're stuck with facemasks and social distancing for the foreseeable future, there's no "getting back to normal" because this is the 'new' normal.

Except they're all being deleted rapidly in the US and everyone is going "it's fine! there's no more covid!" even though it's still here. Theme parks, movie theaters, department stores: all mask-free zones for the vaccinated with no requirement to prove you're vaccinated.

My very obvious frustration is that it would not be if people just bore down on it for a few months instead of the half-assed bullshit we've done since it started. Instead, no.

The vaccines are wonderful but the hard line forever was "we have to wait to be normal again until community spread is down". It is not (E: not to the levels they outlined for ages). They threw in the towel because people wanted to be told they did good and the public stopped caring about covid a while ago because when you're told something is unobtainum, why bother to continue trying?

Which leads to that other complaint I had about the coverage in general (I think) a few pages back, but you can't change history. I just don't want to be part of the Georgia variant or whatever, if my choice isn't taken away from me by being the only person in the store that has a mask on; but it probably already is. Masks just don't work as well when you're the only one wearing them. And no, the answer is not "well gently caress masks, then".

E: Yes we posted 7k cases yesterday but it was a sunday and a holiday weekend. There's no way in hell that's what actually popped up. The more important thing is that we've got almost 6 million active cases out there right now. While that's starting to slow down, it'd go down so much faster if people just worked to make it go that way instead of going to flippin' Applebees.

Fluffy Bunnies fucked around with this message at 15:15 on May 31, 2021

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Space Camp fuckup
Aug 2, 2003

The freaking Applebee’s am I right?? Haha

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