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Dick Trauma posted:A few minutes later the water issue was back and when I looked closer I realized that there are tides, and the water kept receding beyond reach of my intake. I don't know how I've never noticed this before. Are you sure about that or is your intake just sucking up the water because there are no source points nearby?
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Water is very weird in this game and takes eons to settle to a stable state. And I can never ever get hydro dams to work worth a drat except in that one ideal spot by the rail bridge on the vanilla “Islands” map that gives you 1600MW every time.
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May 28, 2021 19:26
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OwlFancier posted:Are you sure about that or is your intake just sucking up the water because there are no source points nearby? It's a big old river/bay/ocean and just a single basic intake, which is turned down to 50% since I just started the game. I'll remove it and see if the water is still acting weird.
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May 28, 2021 19:31
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Dick Trauma posted:It's a big old river/bay/ocean and just a single basic intake, which is turned down to 50% since I just started the game. I'll remove it and see if the water is still acting weird. I am thinking perhaps if they have not put any water sources in the bay you might be just pulling the water level down because the game doesn't equalize the best in areas with very low flow. Entropic posted:Water is very weird in this game and takes eons to settle to a stable state. I think their effectiveness is based on a combination of the drop between the top and the bottom, and also the flow rate, because the dam won't let water through (and thus generate power) unless it is "full" and thus the total flow rate limits its output capacity. There aren't generally that many spaces on maps where you have a large enough river with lots of flow and also a steep enough drop. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:56 on May 28, 2021 |
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May 28, 2021 19:54
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Bold Robot posted:There are a lot of excellent mods out there. Workshop content in general has added much more to the game than all of the DLCs put together. Some of the key ones have already been posted. Hi, I'm here to disagree. Most of what you said is accurate, but Industries does make your city look cool. Want proof?? Behold!! The mighty oil refineries of Zorin Industries!  (and what a view...) Marvel at the power deployed by Clint's Ores!  Gaze upon the majestic agriculture of oh poo poo  OK, when people say Industries could cause traffic problems in cities, this isn't usually what they mean.
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May 29, 2021 02:19
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Thanks for the advice, will go with vanilla to start and see what I end up caring about.
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May 29, 2021 06:03
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Dick Trauma posted:I loaded a map called Newbie Harbor and it looked pretty nice. I didn't get too far before I saw these weird issues with intermittent water and sewage complaints. Then I noticed that my water intake was high and dry and wondered how I screwed that up, so I moved it back into the water. If the water depth at your intake is really shallow, and your water usage is very high, it will recede like this. You need to find a place you can pull in from much deeper water.
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May 29, 2021 15:33
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I think the one new mod I picked up this time around which makes the most difference is Zoning Toolset. (I hear ZoneIt! does the same stuff with some different options) Looking back, the main reason traffic always got so bad in my first few rounds of trying to play this game was because I wasn't properly respecting road hierarchy and using collectors properly. The ability to turn off zoning alongside big roads makes it so much easier to do things properly because it allows you to clearly keep track of what roads you're intending use as collectors with no local traffic, and it lets you have lots fronting other roads that back onto those collector roads without creating local traffic on the collector, so you can make much more efficient use of space.
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May 29, 2021 16:14
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The one mod I highly recommend even to a brand new player, the one mod I would choose if forced to play Skylines with only one mod, is Remove Need For Pipes. e: actually it might be No Deathcare. drat that would be a tough choice. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 16:41 on May 29, 2021 |
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May 29, 2021 16:31
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I realized that during my last playthrough a couple of years ago I added a waste water treatment mod with clarifying ponds, etc. so instead of a poopjet I'm building a farm of these things. They produce garbage and pollution, but will tide me over until I can afford the green tech to handle things.
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May 29, 2021 16:40
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The basic, fundamental mods that are such no-brainers they should be in the base game, installing them is no more complicated than just clicking Subscribe, and a brand new player can install in seconds and should do so before firing up their first city are six: All 25 Areas Purchaseable Remove Need For Pipes No Deathcare Clouds & Fog Toggler Extra Landscaping Tools Traffic Manager:President Edition And these two you will definitely go looking for after your first hour of gameplay, so you might as well save time and install them preemptively: Chirpy Exterminator Ambient Sounds Tuner (it probably won't even be an hour before sirens incessantly wailing in your ears will drive you to either find this mod or destroy your headphones) After maybe 5-10 hours you'll go looking for Fine Road Anarchy, Move It!, etc. and then Modding Is The Game will quickly become your reality just like the rest of us. All roads lead to Ploppable RICO and Plop The Growables. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 17:00 on May 29, 2021 |
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May 29, 2021 16:57
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I never realized how much the default radio station is some weird dystopian soundscape. Also having some real weird “water pipes not joining” issues. Wonder if Anarchy has anything to do with it. Seems like my game isn’t registering snapping of some water pipes.
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May 29, 2021 17:33
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There doesn't seem to be functional stairs or escalators so I can get pedestrians down to the beach homes I accidentally zoned. EDIT: There is however this... 
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May 29, 2021 17:54
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Dick Trauma posted:There doesn't seem to be functional stairs or escalators so I can get pedestrians down to the beach homes I accidentally zoned. Your cat is very sick.
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May 29, 2021 19:17
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Road trams are the devil
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Dick Trauma posted:There doesn't seem to be functional stairs or escalators so I can get pedestrians down to the beach homes I accidentally zoned. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2032777851 is the path I use when I need a steep path Martytoof posted:Also having some real weird “water pipes not joining” issues. Wonder if Anarchy has anything to do with it. Seems like my game isn’t registering snapping of some water pipes. It usually happens to me when I have "Snap To Nodes" disabled in the Anarchy mod. Keybind for it is CTRL+S.
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May 29, 2021 21:05
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I forgot that the reason I haven't been playing this game is because I suck at it, despite having watched more hours of YouTube tutorials than actual time played.
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Dick Trauma posted:I forgot that the reason I haven't been playing this game is because I suck at it, despite having watched more hours of YouTube tutorials than actual time played. Yeah you won’t get good by just watching videos. You’re going to have to make lovely city after lovely city and tons of mistakes.
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May 30, 2021 07:13
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My biggest disappointment is falling into the same old uncreative mistakes city after city. *watches amazing video about fluid city design* *cracks knuckles* *lays out same boring grid design for the 999th time*
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May 30, 2021 12:56
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Martytoof posted:My biggest disappointment is falling into the same old uncreative mistakes city after city.
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May 30, 2021 16:09
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You could always paint yourself into a corner and start with a European style spoke style city which are much harder to plan and organize.
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May 30, 2021 18:55
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um excuse me posted:You could always paint yourself into a corner and start with a European style spoke style city which are much harder to plan and organize. That is literally me right now. I'm trying to resist by adopting a DC-style where there are spokes but mostly regular grid otherwise. Spokes just look so coooool
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um excuse me posted:You could always paint yourself into a corner and start with a European style spoke style city which are much harder to plan and organize. I mean, my city is going to suck and be frustrating either way, I’d rather it be frustrating but different 
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Albino Squirrel posted:Grids make for livable, walkable cities. Resist the suburban tyranny! Fused grids create a pedestrian grid but cars have to follow arterials instead.
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Dick Trauma posted:I forgot that the reason I haven't been playing this game is because I suck at it, despite having watched more hours of YouTube tutorials than actual time played. Are you me? I stumbled on this guy and this particular video and realized I rarely ever used zoning and it's making me want to make another badly designed inefficient city https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjjvpE5KCKs
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If you want to make more interesting cities my suggestion is to start somewhere with geography in the way and don't terraform it. Build around things and your city will look interesting. Also if you get a brilliant idea to make a new Thing to put in your city, just build it to itself and don't really think about lining it up with the rest of the city, then try to figure out how to make it connect later and fill in the intervening space with other poo poo.   
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May 31, 2021 01:12
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A thing I like to do is lay out train lines in different directions that would make sense and put stations along the way. You can start developing around the stations and eventually will end fusing each other.
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I really resent that the game expects you to start a town around a freeway exit, it’s one of my biggest pet peeves with the game. Hard to make a real feeling city when cities never (rarely?) happen that way in the first place. e: is there such thing as a historical materialist city sim
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the city planner plays guy on youtube has just started a new city where he nerfed all of the highways before he began the series. He only wants to add them in if he needs to much as they'd be done in real life. He's also a big fan of grids but will break the grid now and then to add interest to the city.
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Chenghiz posted:I really resent that the game expects you to start a town around a freeway exit, it’s one of my biggest pet peeves with the game. Hard to make a real feeling city when cities never (rarely?) happen that way in the first place.
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May 31, 2021 10:50
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Has there ever been a game that does a cross between SimCity and Civilization where you start as like an Iron-age settlement with horse paths blacksmiths and have to grow and modernize your city through advances in technology?
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Entropic posted:Has there ever been a game that does a cross between SimCity and Civilization where you start as like an Iron-age settlement with horse paths blacksmiths and have to grow and modernize your city through advances in technology? I would also like to know! I'm searching my dusty brain and I have no answers. I'm thinking something like Banished but IRC it has no evolution component.
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donoteat01 has a series like that but it’s all just custom assets
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Yeah, I really liked Banished but it kind of dead-ends after a certain point because there's no further progress to be made and your only gameplay goal becomes "keep production balanced so I don't trigger a death spiral".
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Chenghiz posted:I really resent that the game expects you to start a town around a freeway exit, it’s one of my biggest pet peeves with the game. Hard to make a real feeling city when cities never (rarely?) happen that way in the first place. Check out how towns in Houston spring up. They build a section of ring road through farms, a few years later, it's sprawling suburbs basically build radially around the exits of the highways.
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um excuse me posted:Check out how towns in Houston spring up. They build a section of ring road through farms, a few years later, it's sprawling suburbs basically build radially around the exits of the highways. Good point, this happened to a fair number of US cities in the 60s, it just sucks and i hate it 
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Workers and resources soviet republic is sort of like that in that the maps can come packaged with a bunch of pre-existing towns and basic roads, and it is up to you if you want to redevelop them or knock it all down and remake it in glorious soviet prefabricated concrete. So you can end up with a core of old lovely buildings and then centrally planned stuff working out from there. It is much more cohesive in why you have the abilities you have because you're literally running a soviet satellite state and you literally can eminent domain anything you want. Unfortunately it is a long way removed from Skylines in terms of traffic simulation and building cool looking infrastructure, in return you get much more detailed, well, worker and resource simulation. If they made a game with the infrastructure tools of modded C:S and the other simulation depth of W&R I would declare it best game ever.
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I thought I was being careful about placing buildings so that I would be able to upgrade to 4 lane roads but goddamn if I didn't put the high school in the wrong spot. I really am learning from videos, especially the City Planner ones, but there's a lot to keep in mind and if you forget the wrong thing at the wrong time it can lead to problems.
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It's easy enough vanilla to move buildings, and something like move-it makes it even easier.
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Whenever I look at screenshots of people's cities, their buildings and assets are all photorealistic and generally look like a real city, as opposed to the hyper cartoony look of vanilla CS. What mods in particular allow for that, without hand-placing every individual house?
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