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FreudianSlippers posted:The world is divided on the big issues this is magnum chaz erasure
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# ? May 10, 2024 01:10 |
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Where is Gross Karl?
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 01:31 |
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I like to call him Junior Pippin
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 03:20 |
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Big Chuckus, surely
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 07:02 |
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Karl der Große Großer Karl Karl, Groß (eins, 1)
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 07:16 |
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Lawman 0 posted:Hey so do archeologists think that the modern Assyrians are the ancient Assyrians, or is that just bunk? I actually had a fascinating conversation with an Assyrian on a Youtube comment section of all places last year. They definitely do, at least.
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Tias posted:Big Chuckus, surely Thicc Chucc
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# ? Jun 1, 2021 11:15 |
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And now I'm blaring Christoper Lee power metal ballads at 8am
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skasion posted:There’s something about the matter of fact tone of these medieval findings of fact that is incredibly hilarious to me. The Record always follows this specific format like “there was no wound on him, except only that his skull was utterly broken even unto the brain” or whatever That seems like it might be a syntax thing, like we'd put 'No other injuries' at the end instead. English changes a lot.
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Fuschia tude posted:I actually had a fascinating conversation with an Assyrian on a Youtube comment section of all places last year. They definitely do, at least. That's really interesting! Did they give you any particular insights?
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https://twitter.com/csmfht/status/1400322566779117568?s=21
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# ? Jun 3, 2021 23:59 |
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where's the rest?
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# ? Jun 4, 2021 00:16 |
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Gaius Marius posted:Where is Gross Karl? Not much. Where's Gross Karl with you?
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Lawman 0 posted:That's really interesting! Did they give you any particular insights? Yeah kinda. It was on basically a podcast video discussing the plot of a game at the end of an LP series, so all in the context of and in comparison to fictional wars and empires. He was talking about survivor's guilt and how he probably won't get married. quote:But how does genocide affect someone more personally? Well for starters, I'm probably never going to get married. You might think I'm just being silly, but it's a big problem for all native minorities. You think it's hard finding "the one"? Ha! Get over yourself, imagine if 99.9% of every potential partner was automatically disqualified for not being the same people as you. You guys have it easy! And if you bring up this preference, people think you're some kind of narrow-minded supremacist. I mean sure, I could easily marry a European, and I would probably get my personal happiness if I did. But then that's the end of the line for my people as far as I can help it. Then I've thrown in the towel and let those who tried to wipe us out win. If we had our own country I wouldn't care that much, that country would always keep the language and culture alive, even if I fail. But now it's all up to each individual to not get assimilated. Majority people often have a hard time understanding these struggles or just think they're backwards because they don't have that kind of responsibility on their shoulders. One thing I didn't know was that along with the Armenian genocide by the Ottomans, they were also targeted. Apparently most of those alive today are descended from those who were able to hole up in the mountain monastery fortress of Iwardo and resisted the two-month-long siege. But another thing he points out is there's no real trace of the OG historical Assyrians left; they basically assimilated and were absorbed into the wider Aramean population millennia ago after their own empire disintegrated, including adopting their language and culture and then a few centuries later converting to Christianity, so that's a more accurate term. And as he sees it, the term "Assyrian" was basically revived by the British in the 1800s as a marketing gimmick as they were looking for an ally to start arming in the region. quote:Here's the thing, most of us don't consider ourselves Assyrians! We are actually Syriacs/Syrians or Arameans! Fuschia tude fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jun 4, 2021 |
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Anyone got any book tips about the history of the Orthodox church, specifically about them in the ERE? And yes it's for elfgames.
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Kemper Boyd posted:Anyone got any book tips about the history of the Orthodox church, specifically about them in the ERE? It's a Peep Show reference but check out John Julius Norwich
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Fuschia tude posted:Snip and also Interesting to see that neo pagan dorkiness is a world wide phenomenon. That was very interesting thank you for posting that.
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Fuschia tude posted:Yeah kinda. It was on basically a podcast video discussing the plot of a game at the end of an LP series, so all in the context of and in comparison to fictional wars and empires. He was talking about survivor's guilt and how he probably won't get married. Wow, drat. Thanks for posting, that's pretty intense.
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sebzilla posted:It's a Peep Show reference but check out John Julius Norwich Considering I read Europe's Tragedy for fun i should probably get his trilogy then.
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Kemper Boyd posted:Anyone got any book tips about the history of the Orthodox church, specifically about them in the ERE? I might be able to track some down. I know you're already pretty specific, but can you be moreso? Are you interested in the church as an institution, or the history of theology? Also do you have a period of interest? Because you're basically asking for 1k years of history. The Byzantine Commonwealth is a classic and a good place to start, regardless. edit: Norwich is... ok.
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JJN is extremely readable and gives you the kind of narrative overview of Byzantium that makes a good grounding, which involves taking a lot of questionable sources largely at face value. Then if you want to have more detail later you can dive in deeper.
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In light, white is all colors combined. In pigments, black is all colors combined. Why is yellow the second metal of tincture rather than black?
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Baron Porkface posted:In light, white is all colors combined. In pigments, black is all colors combined. White is argent - silver. Yellow is or - gold. Don't think there's more to it than that. Colour naming conventions are not consistent across time and culture - think the ancient greek bronze skies. Medieval heralds wouldn't have known about prisms and the splitting of white light into the visible spectrum
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 16:34 |
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I've got a question about roman urban life: how partisan were different neighbourhoods/tribes/whatever among the proles? Was it "This insula is for Caesar, those guys one neighbourhood over support the traitor Pompey" or was it more randomly just based on who your family's patrons were?
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 16:41 |
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chippocrates posted:White is argent - silver. The actual reason is contrast. The original point of the rule of tincture was probably to avoid putting light colors with light colors next to light colors or dark colors next to dark colors, because that would make it too hard to "read" a shield from across a battlefield. At least, that's how the Society for Creative Anachronism interprets it. As heraldry developed, the rule of tincture seems to have been elaborated into an arbitrary rule that could be circumvented with linguistic loopholes (e.g., Satan's coat of arms is technically OK if you convey that the frogs are green by calling them "proper" instead of "Vert").
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 16:51 |
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Speaking of heraldry, is there a decent site or app for tossing together coat of arms? I tried one but they didn't have a label with three points which, as the first son, I quite require
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Brawnfire posted:Speaking of heraldry, is there a decent site or app for tossing together coat of arms? I tried one but they didn't have a label with three points which, as the first son, I quite require https://drawshield.net/ is the main one, I think.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I've got a question about roman urban life: how partisan were different neighbourhoods/tribes/whatever among the proles? Was it "This insula is for Caesar, those guys one neighbourhood over support the traitor Pompey" or was it more randomly just based on who your family's patrons were? I have never heard of geographic division like this, I'm not sure we have that kind of detail. The tribes were not geographical, at least not by the time we're talking about. They were just organizing categories. I would guess that there was some neighborhood divide though. Like today, there were economic differences between different parts of any city, and people in different economic circumstances supported different politicians. But I'm just doing a logical guess, I don't know of any data about it.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I've got a question about roman urban life: how partisan were different neighbourhoods/tribes/whatever among the proles? Was it "This insula is for Caesar, those guys one neighbourhood over support the traitor Pompey" or was it more randomly just based on who your family's patrons were? In the Pompeii book i just read by Mary Beard, there def was neighborhood political consciousness, civic association consciousness, and also voting tribe consciousness based on the Political posters on the walls.
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euphronius posted:In the Pompeii book i just read by Mary Beard, there def was neighborhood political consciousness, civic association consciousness, and also voting tribe consciousness based on the Political posters on the walls. Oh neat, I need to read this. Pompeii is the only place I can think of where that data could be gathered.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 18:10 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Oh neat, I need to read this. Pompeii is the only place I can think of where that data could be gathered. https://www.amazon.com/Pompeii-Life-Roman-Mary-Beard/dp/1846684714 This one. its amazing.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 18:16 |
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:I might be able to track some down. I know you're already pretty specific, but can you be moreso? Are you interested in the church as an institution, or the history of theology? Also do you have a period of interest? Because you're basically asking for 1k years of history. The Byzantine Commonwealth is a classic and a good place to start, regardless. Mostly interested in the Church as an institution, and i'd be mostly looking at something from the 800-1100s, roughly.
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One good part of the Mary Beard book is the debate over the number of brothels in Pompeii. The ranges are from one to 34. edit Actually 0 is the low range. euphronius fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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chippocrates posted:. I'm unconvinced about arguments that take a traditionally blind poet as literal to start with, but i gotta also point out that you can easily get a very skylike patina on bronze.
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Tunicate posted:I'm unconvinced about arguments that take a traditionally blind poet as literal to start with, but i gotta also point out that you can easily get a very skylike patina on bronze. yeah in like homeric contexts there's also the rhythmic side of things, where sometimes the sea is 'wine-dark' or athena is grey-eyed to help get the rhythmic scheme you need for each line there was a cool episode of the Thin End of the Wedge podcast about color in the bronze age near-east and some other cultures' peculiarities in describing it with the author of this book. she talks about akkadian prioritizing texture/glossiness and animate/inanimate status in describing the color of things, if i remember right, for instance
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Bronze shines, that’s why the sky is like bronze to archaic poets. It has nothing to do with the precise hue of the sky and everything to do with the (apparent) luminosity. decent essay about what the poetic image of bronze meant to archaic people
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 19:19 |
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I always thought it was so weird when people would obsess about poo poo like wine-dark sea and make elaborate theories that the Greeks literally saw colors differently instead of just... it's literature and they wrote something non-literal to evoke an image. Like, you know. All literature everywhere, ever.
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Grand Fromage posted:I always thought it was so weird when people would obsess about poo poo like wine-dark sea and make elaborate theories that the Greeks literally saw colors differently instead of just... it's literature and they wrote something non-literal to evoke an image. Like, you know. All literature everywhere, ever. It's a bit like saying something goes to 11. Today, everyone gets that's a reference to Spinal Tap. Somebody reading it 1000 years from now is going to be all wtf because it makes no sense to them. It's a reference within their culture to describe a particular image that they all got and understood, but we're all dweebs who don't get the joke.
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The sole surviving relic of 1900s art in color: a single copy of jojo's bizarre adventure. Clearly those ancients did not see color as we do!
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