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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Pookah posted:

In another thread herein, I learned that the majority of European words for 'bear' are euphemisms that tend to translate as 'the brown one' because people were afraid that naming them directly would cause one to appear and eat everyone.
Apparently it's the earliest known euphemism.

Notably, “bear” is a euphemism, from the same root as “brown”.

“Ursus” and “arktos” are not euphemisms and reflect the bear’s original name in Proto Indo-European.

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Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Platystemon posted:

Notably, “bear” is a euphemism, from the same root as “brown”.

“Ursus” and “arktos” are not euphemisms and reflect the bear’s original name in Proto Indo-European.

U gonna get et by a 'bear'
( looks shiftily over her shoulder, I mean a brown fella, kinda bitey lad)

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

I mean bear worship was (possibly maybe) one of the first religions so saying the actual name is taking the Lord's name in vain.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Europe also used to have cave lions and cave hyenas not even that long ago (they all loved caves I guess)

Nowadays there are 2 or 3 wolves in Flanders, we know each one by name, and it's still an increase of infinity percent compared to the recent past

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



Slavs call bears honey eaters. I guess it could also be a euphemism.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Correct.

Pope Hilarius II
Nov 10, 2008

Pookah posted:

In another thread herein, I learned that the majority of European words for 'bear' are euphemisms that tend to translate as 'the brown one' because people were afraid that naming them directly would cause one to appear and eat everyone.
Apparently it's the earliest known euphemism.

:actually: the correct term is 'apotropaeic', a specific euphemestic nomenclature given to something unpleasant to fend off disaster. There's a similar thing where in pre-Classical Greece, Apollo was the god of pestilence and disease but he was instead credited with being a major healer as to get on his good side. Eventually that became his primary function. So, too, are references to Hades as 'Plouton' ("the rich one"), where they chose to focus on his positive aspects lest they might anger him by talking of how unpleasant death and the underworld were.

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


ultrafilter, I didn't want you to find your special porn surprise like that.

How did you get into my stash anyway? i keep it guarded 24/7

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Phlegmish posted:

Europe also used to have cave lions and cave hyenas not even that long ago (they all loved caves I guess)

Nowadays there are 2 or 3 wolves in Flanders, we know each one by name, and it's still an increase of infinity percent compared to the recent past

Since spain is basically empty, we got a lot of space for wolves :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_wolf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_wolf#/media/File:IberianWolf-Map.png

Edit:
map unnecesary, sorry, I think I stayed for too long in the map-porn thread

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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Play Canceled After Actor Breaks Character to Fight an Audience Member

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/28/william-shakespeare-death-mistake-argentinian-tv

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Pookah posted:

In another thread herein, I learned that the majority of European words for 'bear' are euphemisms that tend to translate as 'the brown one' because people were afraid that naming them directly would cause one to appear and eat everyone.
Apparently it's the earliest known euphemism.

I heard the same thing about 'wolf', I think. Might make a lot of sense for humans with lack of ready access to reliable weapons, and before large predators were mostly hunted to extinction in populated areas.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Pope Hilarius II posted:

:actually: the correct term is 'apotropaeic', a specific euphemestic nomenclature given to something unpleasant to fend off disaster. There's a similar thing where in pre-Classical Greece, Apollo was the god of pestilence and disease but he was instead credited with being a major healer as to get on his good side. Eventually that became his primary function. So, too, are references to Hades as 'Plouton' ("the rich one"), where they chose to focus on his positive aspects lest they might anger him by talking of how unpleasant death and the underworld were.

This is very cool to learn, thank you!

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



weird that a pope should speak in defense of bear cult terminology :thunk:

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


https://twitter.com/thegallowboob/status/1399158131163222017

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Pyrrhus watch out!

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Carthag Tuek posted:

weird that a pope should speak in defense of bear cult terminology :thunk:

Isn't it more an absence-of-bear cult?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/1399830722404290565

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
“allegedly”

We have video evidence, but let’s not be hasty here. There are very fine people on many sides.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/06/03/bride-india-dies-wedding-then-sister-marries-groom-bizarre/7521175002/

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!

Everybody laugh. Roll on snare drums. Curtains.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005


I know this didn't happen in the bible, but it feels like one of those things that would have

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

did they bang?

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Florida man claims “stand your ground” defense in killing of iguana

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-man-claims-stand-your-ground-defense-iguana-killing-n1269369

CW: animal cruelty. It’s actually pretty awful.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011




Isn't this customary in rural India? In which case only the timing would be bizarre

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 15 hours!

Henchman of Santa posted:

Florida man claims “stand your ground” defense in killing of iguana

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-man-claims-stand-your-ground-defense-iguana-killing-n1269369

CW: animal cruelty. It’s actually pretty awful.

I thought Florida had a bounty system for killing Iguanas cause they’re an invasive species? I mean, I’m not sure that it gives you permission to cruelly beat it for a half hour…

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Are iguanas ever a serious threat to people? I got the impression they just lay there and chill.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Cartoon Man posted:

I thought Florida had a bounty system for killing Iguanas cause they’re an invasive species? I mean, I’m not sure that it gives you permission to cruelly beat it for a half hour…

Yeah but

quote:

Under state law, people are allowed to kill iguanas, an invasive species, in a quick and humane manner. A necropsy, though, showed the iguana had a lacerated liver, broken pelvis and internal bleeding, which were “painful and terrifying” injuries, prosecutors contend.


By popular demand posted:

Are iguanas ever a serious threat to people? I got the impression they just lay there and chill.

The easiest way to get bitten by an iguana is to pick one up on a rare cold morning in South Florida. You might think it’s dead. It’s not. When it warms up, it’s going to be pissed.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Well yeah I'd be pissed too if a big hairless monkey picked me up while I'm taking a nap.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
They still can’t really hurt you. It’s like being gummed by an annoyed (non-snapping) turtle.

Getting tail whipped isn’t the most fun but it’s like getting snapped with a towel.

Note: these are personal experiences and iguanas might have some other way to hurt you.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Iguanas are dicks. They’re way too good at eating foliage.

They’re like scaly green bunnies.

Ichabod Sexbeast
Dec 5, 2011

Giving 'em the old razzle-dazzle

Captain Monkey posted:

They still can’t really hurt you. It’s like being gummed by an annoyed (non-snapping) turtle.

Getting tail whipped isn’t the most fun but it’s like getting snapped with a towel.

Note: these are personal experiences and iguanas might have some other way to hurt you.

Emotionally? :ohdear:

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe
I just remembered that Sarah Connor never went back for her iguana Pugsley after surviving the first Terminator

Maybe he was in the jeep at the end but I didn't see him

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Platystemon posted:

Yeah but

The easiest way to get bitten by an iguana is to pick one up on a rare cold morning in South Florida. You might think it’s dead. It’s not. When it warms up, it’s going to be pissed.

remember the guy who was in florida during a cold snap, all the iguanas fell from trees, and he was like "hell yeah! free iguanas!" so he was collecting them and storing them in his car

then they warmed up and he had a car full of furious iguanas

quote:

SHAPIRO: Magill says if you meet a semi-frozen iguana, treat it as though it could be alive. He told us this crazy story about a guy in Key Biscayne who was originally from Central America.

MAGILL: And in Central America, iguana is a delicacy. It's something - they're actually farmed for food. So this gentleman just thought, wow, I just have a bunch of protein here. He's on Key Biscayne. He's sort of picking up all these iguanas that appear to be dead on the road that had fallen out of trees. They turned gray and were not moving at all and very cold to the touch.

And he put them into his vehicle. He's loading them up like he was stocking up for a big barbecue. When they went back into the vehicle, the vehicle warmed up, and those iguanas started coming back to life. And all of a sudden, they started getting up and running around in the car, and it caused an accident.



https://www.npr.org/2018/01/05/576082463/what-to-do-if-you-come-across-a-frozen-iguana

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Phy posted:

I just remembered that Sarah Connor never went back for her iguana Pugsley after surviving the first Terminator

Maybe he was in the jeep at the end but I didn't see him


And now we know why doomsday cannot be avoided, Pugsley made certain of that.

Never cross a lizard.

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


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Captain Monkey posted:

They still can’t really hurt you. It’s like being gummed by an annoyed (non-snapping) turtle.

Getting tail whipped isn’t the most fun but it’s like getting snapped with a towel.

Note: these are personal experiences and iguanas might have some other way to hurt you.

Gummed, are you kidding?

Not an excuse for animal cruelty, but the guy in this article was bitten before he went off on the iguana, and that bite required 20 medical staples.

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Cichlidae
Aug 12, 2005

ME LOVE
MAKE RED LIGHT


Dr. Infant, MD

ZombieLenin posted:

Gummed, are you kidding?

Not an excuse for animal cruelty, but the guy in this article was bitten before he went off on the iguana, and that bite required 20 medical staples.

And among the reasons you might get bitten, according to that article?

Mating Season

Iguanas have a breeding season and it's not uncommon your pet is going to try and mate with you. This means that a male iguana will take a bite as it would a female. While this is not a dangerous bite, an iguana may hold onto until he is finished.

Pushing him away will make him aggressive and encourage him to bite harder.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Can't believe I need to tell Florida man half of this but I guess the other half makes sense. As the veterinarians say: use your brain. Use drugs.

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Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

ZombieLenin posted:

Gummed, are you kidding?

Not an excuse for animal cruelty, but the guy in this article was bitten before he went off on the iguana, and that bite required 20 medical staples.

I had a bunch of pet iguanas as a kid. That’s far worse than anything I’ve seen and that sucks.

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