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Ardennes posted:It pretty much shutdown every small time dealers and started seriously eating into available retail space until point there are shops on every other bloc. (Some have to be laundering money) 
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Jun 2, 2021 00:57
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re: legalization i think uruguay's system is the best attempt at a non-market solution, the state has weed farms for the medicinal weed that goes to pharmacies and serves (actual) medical use, and recreational users can form non-commercial growing associations to stock their stashes but are barred from commercial activity, of course a lot of grow club product ends up being sold under the table anyway but it's not publicly available and the state goes after anyone being too obvious idk how that would translate to other drugs but i think it's better than what's in place in the netherlands or the US
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Jun 2, 2021 01:00
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^^hmm I like the idea of just making all weed business not for profit Ardennes posted:It pretty much shutdown every small time dealers and started seriously eating into available retail space until point there are shops on every other bloc. (Some have to be laundering money) so your solution to small time distributors (and potential small businesses who will now never be born) getting their lunch eaten is to make weed unaffordable to poor people? I don’t like it
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Jun 2, 2021 01:01
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Ardennes posted:But also, anecdotally speaking, I don’t think it was great for the mental health of a lot of friends who developed a psychological dependency with limitless cheap supply. now when you write dependency, you aren't simply stating your opinion that they smoke too much weed but that they are dependent on it to function as normal? these friends, how was their mental health going before, and has it impacted their lives negatively in their professional or social spheres? whole lot of people use opiate painkillers as intended without developing a dependency, happy healthy people rarely spiral into drugs
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Jun 2, 2021 01:04
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bagual posted:re: legalization i think uruguay's system is the best attempt at a non-market solution, the state has weed farms for the medicinal weed that goes to pharmacies and serves (actual) medical use, and recreational users can form non-commercial growing associations to stock their stashes but are barred from commercial activity, of course a lot of grow club product ends up being sold under the table anyway but it's not publicly available and the state goes after anyone being too obvious Washington State, USA has a program where medical users can grow a few plants and even combine together their growing rights for a larger shared grow. It's quite a nice set up, and some kind of public grow space or grow equipment voucher would be not dissimilar to how I'd like to see drug production under an ancom worldview. Everyone gets a little growing space and access to shared equipment, and it's up to you to plant coco, poppies, weed, hops, LSD trees or lettuce.
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Jun 2, 2021 01:11
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indigi posted:^^hmm I like the idea of just making all weed business not for profit I would prefer to just make the business of selling weed as a profit seeking venture more difficult. If you wanted to just give people a certain amount of weed a month with a cap that may be fine. Wheeee posted:now when you write dependency, you aren't simply stating your opinion that they smoke too much weed but that they are dependent on it to function as normal? I think they were dependent on it as a distraction for other issues that were happening in their lives. I wouldn’t say it was destroying their lives but it certainly allowed them a way to permanently escape reality. I think there was a general decline with an improvement when they gradually slowed down how much they were smoking. Limitless cheap alcohol y/n?
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Jun 2, 2021 01:13
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Ardennes posted:Limitless cheap alcohol y/n? monkey paw curls and it's all methanol
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Jun 2, 2021 01:16
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Hatebag posted:Introducing: narcommunism, the drug-fueled communist state funded entirely on cocaine exports this is what reactionaries really believe about Bolivia and Venezuela  https://www.wsj.com/articles/morales-made-bolivia-a-narco-state-11574018858  https://sports.yahoo.com/venezuela-cocaine-aeroterror-hezbollah-iran-142154553.html
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Jun 2, 2021 01:20
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namesake posted:I've worked while drunk from lunch but I work in an office and I was still capable of working - that's not a problem. It's different if operating machinery or caring for the vulnerable in some way which requires the best attention you can muster. Are there suddenly being a large shift in manufacturing capacity being shifted to these drugs? That sounds like a signal that something significant has changed in the social environment which might need directed intervention to fix, better check it out. the fix is to move you and others like you to productive labor which gives everyone a 10-20 hr work and more time to imbibe on their extended weekends while removing your privilege to drink on the clock
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Jun 2, 2021 01:21
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bagual posted:re: legalization i think uruguay's system is the best attempt at a non-market solution, the state has weed farms for the medicinal weed that goes to pharmacies and serves (actual) medical use, and recreational users can form non-commercial growing associations to stock their stashes but are barred from commercial activity, of course a lot of grow club product ends up being sold under the table anyway but it's not publicly available and the state goes after anyone being too obvious Yeah there is a bunch of ways you could work it, including the state attempting to control the supply through quotas. That or simply allow people to buy a heavily subsidized amount with a limit. I just don’t think the “let the free market run wild” approach is working in Oregon.
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Jun 2, 2021 01:23
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Marxism, but as an unappealing and boring society for losers
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Jun 2, 2021 01:25
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Killin_Like_Bronson posted:Marxism, but as an unappealing and boring society for losers i got a policy for all you dopeheads & wastoids 
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Jun 2, 2021 01:29
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bagual posted:re: legalization i think uruguay's system is the best attempt at a non-market solution, the state has weed farms for the medicinal weed that goes to pharmacies and serves (actual) medical use, and recreational users can form non-commercial growing associations to stock their stashes but are barred from commercial activity, of course a lot of grow club product ends up being sold under the table anyway but it's not publicly available and the state goes after anyone being too obvious unrelated, but uruguay's covid vaccination rate is pretty high. they're doing something right.
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Jun 2, 2021 01:36
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Ardennes posted:Why don’t you care about the effects that a free market have on people? you propose rigging that market in a way that causes the most harm to the people least able to afford it
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Jun 2, 2021 01:41
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markets? I say get rid of them.
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Jun 2, 2021 01:46
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The Voice of Labor posted:you propose rigging that market in a way that causes the most harm to the people least able to afford it You could get around it by providing a subsidized product with a cap but constrict supply otherwise. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 02:00 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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Jun 2, 2021 01:46
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Dreylad posted:unrelated, but uruguay's covid vaccination rate is pretty high. they're doing something right. uruguay is pretty loving dope, they got the gay marriage weed abortion trifecta speedrun record in south america thanks to marxist ex-guerillas managing to get elected on a popular front in the 2000's if you wanna learn more about repression and struggle in latin america this is a pro watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y97o1phiyRY
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Jun 2, 2021 01:47
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Weed is like super easy to grow a lot of for very little money if you don't have to hide it. Sure glad there's Marxists that want to keep it as a market commodity for absolutely no reason, what allies!
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Jun 2, 2021 01:49
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I'm serious about free rationed mids, btw.
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Jun 2, 2021 01:50
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https://twitter.com/Louis_Allday/status/1399845082996559878?s=20 "Leila Khaled on Clubhouse" is not a sequence of words I expected to read
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Jun 2, 2021 01:55
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bagual posted:uruguay is pretty loving dope, they got the gay marriage weed abortion trifecta speedrun record in south america thanks to marxist ex-guerillas managing to get elected on a popular front in the 2000's okay well then there's no way this is a glitchless run, what emulator were they using also thx for the video will check it out!
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Jun 2, 2021 01:55
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:But you also claim that interdiction doesn't work, so how is decriminalization working out pretty good for Portugal when sale & distribution is still illegal? in terms of ods and drug use in general, decriminalization seems to make things better. It follows that legalization wouldn't increase drug abuse, but it would also reduce the black market.
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Jun 2, 2021 02:08
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Hatebag posted:in terms of ods and drug use in general, decriminalization seems to make things better. It follows that legalization wouldn't increase drug abuse no it doesn't. are we all gonna pretend that people didn't die from lean? codeine syrup was already a heavily regulated substance, and doctors were just passing out prescriptions because of the money that was in it.
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Jun 2, 2021 02:16
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Atrocious Joe posted:this is what reactionaries really believe about Bolivia and Venezuela Here's something stupid, and i assume fake i found earlier today: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/archive/cubaandcocaine.html posted:cuba and cocaine
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Jun 2, 2021 02:22
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:no it doesn't. are we all gonna pretend that people didn't die from lean? codeine syrup was already a heavily regulated substance, and doctors were just passing out prescriptions because of the money that was in it. isn't lean available OTC in Canada? I think the earlier point someone had of happy, healthy people not slipping into drug abuse is probably a key factor in those ODs
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Jun 2, 2021 02:28
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what if syndicalism so we only have to deal with the squares at the straightedge factory some of the time
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Jun 2, 2021 02:28
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:no it doesn't. are we all gonna pretend that people didn't die from lean? codeine syrup was already a heavily regulated substance, and doctors were just passing out prescriptions because of the money that was in it. Lol cmon, there was not some mass wave of lean overdoses, nothing at all comparable to oxy/heroin/fentanyl. And part of the allure was that initially it was less regulated and not on the radar like other narcs
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Jun 2, 2021 02:33
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Lenin smoked weed and so does any true communist
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Jun 2, 2021 02:35
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Medical maintenance therapy for opiates is probably the model you'd wanna look at for hard drugs under marxism
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Jun 2, 2021 02:36
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Jun 2, 2021 02:37
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lil poopendorfer posted:And part of the allure was that initially it was less regulated and not on the radar like other narcs not making a great case here
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Jun 2, 2021 03:19
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RIP Comrades Lil Peep and Juice WRLD
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Jun 2, 2021 03:28
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:no it doesn't. are we all gonna pretend that people didn't die from lean? codeine syrup was already a heavily regulated substance, and doctors were just passing out prescriptions because of the money that was in it. Most of the deaths in the past 4 or 5 years were from fentanyl. Codeine is a natural opioid, fentanyl is synthetic and is mostly obtained illegally. 
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Jun 2, 2021 04:01
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tokin opposition posted:Lenin smoked weed he did?
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Jun 2, 2021 05:03
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Hatebag posted:Most of the deaths in the past 4 or 5 years were from fentanyl. Codeine is a natural opioid, fentanyl is synthetic and is mostly obtained illegally. States have also been rescheduling codeine syrup in the last 8 years to make it harder to get, which coincides with the rise of synthetic opioids. The problem presented by natural opioids doesn't go away when you deschedule it.
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Jun 2, 2021 05:13
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Wouldn't labour vouchers exchanged for drugs solve the for-profit problem
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Jun 2, 2021 05:18
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what's the weed like in manila anyway
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Jun 2, 2021 05:52
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I heard you have to smoke an entire trash bag full to feel anything
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Jun 2, 2021 06:04
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thank god oregon produces enough quality bud to supply all of the u.s. and its protectorates. only puritanism stands in the way of the coming oregon narcostate
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Jun 2, 2021 06:08
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Demon Semen posted:he did? why do you think he had all those strokes? don't buy the NORML propaganda
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Jun 2, 2021 06:12
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